Vanderbilt crime

paraderest

P.S. I changed to title of this thread to more accurately reflect it's content. Is that better now, Mommy?

stacey

LeeHo wrote: Oh, c'mon! This wasn't a so-called "crime update." This is crazy overreaction! There is nothing we have to watch opur backs about on Vanderbilt Ave that is any different than most pasrt of the city. Thew original poster starts his/her topic with a sarcastic tone such as "Vanderbilt is great" and then goes on and on about how it is not and we should all be quivering like leaves hanging on to a branch. That is fucking lame. Yes, I agree, the heartfelt ideas qabout Indigo Blue are things that should be discussed. We've all had drinks in that place and the owner was a nice guy. But to go so far and tell us all to watch our backs is quite funny.

Also Get your paranoid on was a pun on the popular comic, "Get your war on." Are you familiar with it? Office talking about things they know nothing about? Sound familiar?

I happened to take it as a helpful piece of advice - and in no way did I see anything close to the original poster telling us we should be quivering. He/she was just putting some info out there for us.

FACT: there was a shooting at Indigo and while it was a personal disputed between parties that know each other - as a parent it upsets me because many young kids walk that way over to the McDonalds or to the buses on Atlantic to go home from school. My first reaction was damn that was waay to close to my son's school

FACT: the dry cleaner was robbed. Gives me a heads up so that if I see anything suspicious or out of the ordinary around these businesses I would not hesitate to call 911

FACT: You can be hit by a bus if you are not paying attention

You are correct when you say this happens all over Brooklyn but Vanderbilt is where I travel most so I care more about what happens there than I do about other neighborhoods.

armchair_warrior

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leeho

So hollow to only give a shit about the immediate neighborhood.

The Bronx:Man, 36, Fatally Shot Outside Bar in the Bronx
http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/13/nyregion/13riverdale.html?_r=1&oref=slogin

Brooklyn: Woman Killed in Accident

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/13/nyregion/13mbrfs-BROOKLYNWOMA_BRF.html

Brooklyn: Man Fatally Shot

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/13/nyregion/13mbrfs-BROOKLYNMANF_BRF.html

Man Fatally Shot on Way to Job; 2 Are Arrested in Hell’s Kitchen

http://www.nytimes.com/2006/11/13/nyregion/13hells.html

So, these people don't matter because they are sooooo faaaaaar away, huh? So human we are.

leeho

ParadeRest wrote: [quote=LeeHo]
Also Get your paranoid on was a pun on the popular comic, "Get your war on." Are you familiar with it? Office talking about things they know nothing about? Sound familiar?

How does an office talk?

Better than trash talking about crime waves that don't exist.

whyfi

LeeHo wrote: So hollow to only give a shit about the immediate neighborhood.

Don't you draw a line somewhere, too? I assume that you don't go perusing the obits in New Zealand. You relate to what relates to you... don't you?

leeho

What does N. Zealand have to do with the city we all live in? I would say the five boroughs is a rather small line. Should we not care about Iraq, then? Darfur? Sounds like some nutty Bushism/Republicanism to think only about what immediately surrounds ME! ME! ME!

stacey

LeeHo wrote: So hollow to only give a shit about the immediate neighborhood . . .
So, these people don't matter because they are sooooo faaaaaar away, huh? So human we are.

Dont go there with me LeeHo - you dont even know me to make a statement like that about me. With that said I do care about what happens outside of this neighborhood but my first priority is my family and my family is here. I do what I can when I can to make this neighborhoods a better place. Now if you want to twist my words to suit your agenda knock yourself out.

leeho

Stacey,

There really is nothing you could have done to have stopped the shooting or the robbery. It's a big city and things just happen, right? Random acts amongst 8 million random people. I felt as if "Get ready folks" for robberies, etc, is kind of lame to say when there really isn't that much to be worried about near Vanderbilt. That's it.

whyfi

LeeHo wrote: What does N. Zealand have to do with the city we all live in?

Some people here might be more likely to take a trip to NZ than BX.

LeeHo wrote: Should we not care about Iraq, then? Darfur? Sounds like some nutty Bushism/Republicanism to think only about what immediately surrounds ME! ME! ME!

People DO only care about what surrounds them, and it sounds like some nutty Smallmindedism to think that what immediately surrounds ME! ME! ME! has only to do with geographic location.

whyfi

LeeHo wrote: Stacey,

There really is nothing you could have done to have stopped the shooting or the robbery. It's a big city and things just happen, right? Random acts amongst 8 million random people. I felt as if "Get ready folks" for robberies, etc, is kind of lame to say when there really isn't that much to be worried about near Vanderbilt. That's it.

Well said - I think that you'd regularly receive a more warm reception if you would think out your position and succinctly state it, as you have here.

leeho

WhyFi wrote: [quote=LeeHo]What does N. Zealand have to do with the city we all live in?

Some people here might be more likely to take a trip to NZ than BX.

LeeHo wrote: Should we not care about Iraq, then? Darfur? Sounds like some nutty Bushism/Republicanism to think only about what immediately surrounds ME! ME! ME!

People DO only care about what surrounds them, and it sounds like some nutty Smallmindedism to think that what immediately surrounds ME! ME! ME! has only to do with geographic location.

Do they only care about what surrounds them and their families? If that were the case this election didn't really happen, did it?

Also, you'd have to be pretty fuckin' rich to visit New Zealand rather than the Bronx Zoo, Yankee Stadium or the New York Botanical Garden for recreation.

I'm way out of that league, my man. Maybe your privilege allows you to see things way more clearly than me.

whyfi

LeeHo wrote: Do they only care about what surrounds them and their families? If that were the case this election didn't really happen, did it?

Also, you'd have to be pretty fuckin' rich to visit New Zealand rather than the Bronx Zoo, Yankee Stadium or the New York Botanical Garden for recreation.

I'm way out of that league, my man. Maybe your privilege allows you to see things way more clearly than me.

Are you pullin' my leg? Sometimes I get the felling that you're pullin' my leg... are you? If so, brilliant! Bravo!

doctorj

LeeHo wrote:
Also, you'd have to be pretty fuckin' rich to visit New Zealand rather than the Bronx Zoo,

Just want to put in a plug for vacationing in New Zealand. If you time it right, you can get a very reasonably priced flight, and once you get there, it's pretty cheap since their dollar only costs 66c. I'd go back there again before I'd visit the Bronx, and not because I'm particularly affluent.

alafairnadia

doctorj wrote: [quote=LeeHo]
Also, you'd have to be pretty fuckin' rich to visit New Zealand rather than the Bronx Zoo,

Just want to put in a plug for vacationing in New Zealand. If you time it right, you can get a very reasonably priced flight, and once you get there, it's pretty cheap since their dollar only costs 66c. I'd go back there again before I'd visit the Bronx, and not because I'm particularly affluent.

*cough* there's Patricia's pizza in the Bronx - a $4 round trip subway fare will get you there *cough*

doctorj

alafairnadia wrote:
*cough* there's Patricia's pizza in the Bronx - a $4 round trip subway fare will get you there *cough*

You're right...

vs.
.

It's a tough call. But maybe this is actually a false dichotomy: I can fly from LGA and check out Patricia's on the way.

idlewild

doctorj wrote: [quote=alafairnadia]
*cough* there's Patricia's pizza in the Bronx - a $4 round trip subway fare will get you there *cough*

You're right...

vs.
.

It's a tough call. But maybe this is actually a false dichotomy: I can fly from LGA and check out Patricia's on the way.

The farthest west you'll get from LGA is Denver.

doctorj

Idlewild wrote:
The farthest west you'll get from LGA is Denver.

In one hop. I was thinking Southwest/ATA turboprop specials as far as LAX, then a direct flight to Auckland with one of the majors.

brooklynpotter

ok, back to topic.

good info to know.

as for the actress in the west village, it's rather horrid. a workman in her building was making noise and she complained to him. they had a fight, he beat her and then hung her from her shower rod to make it look like a suicide. lesson: do not yell at the contractor.... in my brother's old building a rather notoriously wacko park sloper on montgomery punched the plumber, i'm surprised he didn't get murdered.

as for being places where you're likely to be killed... every time i drive from vandy to GAP to PPW i nearly get killed. every time, without fail. i think that's far more dangerous. that worries me more.

that, and the rat population. any terrorist with half a brain could wipe out the entire city by unleashing the plague.

getting killed by a lunatic, other than the one who lives above me, can't be something i worry about.

idlewild

doctorj wrote: [quote=Idlewild]
The farthest west you'll get from LGA is Denver.

In one hop. I was thinking Southwest/ATA turboprop specials as far as LAX, then a direct flight to Auckland with one of the majors.

You should check out www.staralliance.com .

stacey

LeeHo wrote: Stacey,

There really is nothing you could have done to have stopped the shooting or the robbery. It's a big city and things just happen, right? Random acts amongst 8 million random people. I felt as if "Get ready folks" for robberies, etc, is kind of lame to say when there really isn't that much to be worried about near Vanderbilt. That's it.

I agree with what you say 100% about random acts of violence as well as Vandy being a relatively safe and nice street, but I still like to know what is going on in the neighborhood and I would like to be able to keep an eye out on my neighbors. I dont think Paraderest tried to start a hysterical post I just think s/he was just putting it out there and I dont think a person should be belittled because of what they seem to think is information their neighbors would like to know about.

carnivore

stacey wrote: [quote=LeeHo]Stacey,

There really is nothing you could have done to have stopped the shooting or the robbery. It's a big city and things just happen, right? Random acts amongst 8 million random people. I felt as if "Get ready folks" for robberies, etc, is kind of lame to say when there really isn't that much to be worried about near Vanderbilt. That's it.

I agree with what you say 100% about random acts of violence as well as Vandy being a relatively safe and nice street, but I still like to know what is going on in the neighborhood and I would like to be able to keep an eye out on my neighbors. I dont think Paraderest tried to start a hysterical post I just think s/he was just putting it out there and I dont think a person should be belittled because of what they seem to think is information their neighbors would like to know about.
All good points. I think that what most people here objected to about the OP was the grouping of two quite disparate events to create the appearance of a trend (whether this was intended or not). Either piece of information would clearly be welcome by itself, but they really have nothing to do with each other.

doctorj

Carnivore wrote:
All good points. I think that what most people here objected to about the OP was the grouping of two quite disparate events to create the appearance of a trend (whether this was intended or not). Either piece of information would clearly be welcome by itself, but they really have nothing to do with each other.

You're saying I shouldn't take two points, draw a straight line (R^2=1.0) and extrapolate to a trend? I was wondering why there was no crime last Friday night near the corner of Vanderbilt and Plaza St.

pensodyssey

doctorj wrote: [quote=Carnivore]
All good points. I think that what most people here objected to about the OP was the grouping of two quite disparate events to create the appearance of a trend (whether this was intended or not). Either piece of information would clearly be welcome by itself, but they really have nothing to do with each other.

You're saying I shouldn't take two points, draw a straight line (R^2=1.0) and extrapolate to a trend? I was wondering why there was no crime last Friday night near the corner of Vanderbilt and Plaza St.

I believe a male dog was seen urinating on a lamp post, hence causing untold amounts of damage and expense to NYC taxpayers. Not a crime, but criminal.

doctorj

pensodyssey wrote: [quote=doctorj]
You're saying I shouldn't take two points, draw a straight line (R^2=1.0) and extrapolate to a trend? I was wondering why there was no crime last Friday night near the corner of Vanderbilt and Plaza St.

I believe a male dog was seen urinating on a lamp post, hence causing untold amounts of damage and expense to NYC taxpayers. Not a crime, but criminal.

Well that proves it then. The good news is, by my calculations, this crime wave has already left the neighborhood. This weekend, Windsor Terrace and Kensington are going to cop it, but by Christmas it will have dissipated into the Atlantic. It might bother some folks next year in Sandy Hook, and perhaps Virginia Beach, but Vanderbilt is now in the clear.

pensodyssey

doctorj wrote: [quote=pensodyssey][quote=doctorj]
You're saying I shouldn't take two points, draw a straight line (R^2=1.0) and extrapolate to a trend? I was wondering why there was no crime last Friday night near the corner of Vanderbilt and Plaza St.

I believe a male dog was seen urinating on a lamp post, hence causing untold amounts of damage and expense to NYC taxpayers. Not a crime, but criminal.

Well that proves it then. The good news is, by my calculations, this crime wave has already left the neighborhood. This weekend, Windsor Terrace and Kensington are going to cop it, but by Christmas it will have dissipated into the Atlantic. It might bother some folks next year in Sandy Hook, and perhaps Virginia Beach, but Vanderbilt is now in the clear.

Are you accounting for the curvature of the earth? Remember, straight lines on a curved surface and all that. And at what point in the future might we expect the crime comet to pass over vanderbilt again? Maybe we can get Bruce Willis to destroy it for us.

nodirection

Subject: paraderest

pay no mind to these *____* giving you shit. sounds like they need a hobby. your updates are appreciated.
p.s. i mean, get a real hobby.

pensodyssey

Subject: Re: paraderest

nodirection wrote: pay no mind to these idiots giving you shit. sounds like they need a hobby.

1. Nobody's giving anyone shit.

2. This is my hobby.

bill c

pensodyssey wrote: [quote=doctorj][quote=Carnivore]
All good points. I think that what most people here objected to about the OP was the grouping of two quite disparate events to create the appearance of a trend (whether this was intended or not). Either piece of information would clearly be welcome by itself, but they really have nothing to do with each other.

You're saying I shouldn't take two points, draw a straight line (R^2=1.0) and extrapolate to a trend? I was wondering why there was no crime last Friday night near the corner of Vanderbilt and Plaza St.

I believe a male dog was seen urinating on a lamp post, hence causing untold amounts of damage and expense to NYC taxpayers. Not a crime, but criminal.

wasn't that your special lady's dog and wasn't the victory garden of the house with the Easter Island mural ?

doctorj

pensodyssey wrote:
Are you accounting for the curvature of the earth?

Yes.

pensodyssey wrote:
And at what point in the future might we expect the crime comet to pass over vanderbilt again? Maybe we can get Bruce Willis to destroy it for us.

On its current trajectory, I make it to be in the year 2554, around July 15th. Bruce Willis will not be around to assist, barring unforeseen technological advances. However we can still plan ahead: PM me for details if you wish to make a Paypal donation to the Protect Vanderbilt in 2554 Fund.