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Unleashed PitBull---Same owner as Lucky the Poodle — Brooklynian

Unleashed PitBull---Same owner as Lucky the Poodle

anonymous
edited November -1 in Prospect Heights
Hello:

Does Angel, the unleashed (and menacing!) pitbull scare anyone else besides me? Her owners often let her run unleashed up and down St. Johns Place between Underhill and Washington. Sometimes she wears a muzzle, but she also wears a leather harness and spiked collar....This issue has bothered me for years, but its never bothered me more than it did today. There was a man walking a newborn baby in a strolller, another mother speedwalking while pushing her toddler, and me walking my small Yorkshire Terrier. Angel comes running towards us while her walker was yelling, "Mind your business Angel, Mind your business." This is a bloodbath waiting to happen....has anyone else seen this dog?
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  • I experienced the same thing with this dog one morning returning from the park. He must have left the dog behind, but the dog knew exactly where to go. I was very frightened and didn't know what to do without a cop being near, plus his owner doesn't appear to be someone who would take your concerns seriously.
  • The dog is frequently meandering around the corner of St Johns and Underhill with Lucky in tow, however I have never felt threatened by him. I actually have extended my hand to him (so that he could see I was not trying to harm him) and then pet him. He did not seem to be bothered by this interaction and I am still in possession of all my limbs.
  • I walk my dog past Angel (heh, typed it as 'Angle' first, which is way funnier) & Lucky on our way from Sterling to the big park all the time -- Angel protects his turf but doesn't threaten or growl at either of us.

    FWIW he is a well-trained dog and his owner is usually quite conscientious of where the dog is & what he's doing. That said, I don't appreciate anyone's dog running wild on public sidewalks -- I don't let mine do it, he shouldn't get to either.

    One more thing to consider: the breed of dogs responsible for the greatest number of human bites in the US?

    Golden retrievers.

    -p
  • And what would be the breed of dog most resposible for deadly attacks on children in NYC?
  • I've run into that pit running loose on the way back from the park sometimes, and I have 2 tiny dogs. After a moment of panic, I realized he {she?} wasn't aggressive, but still. I don't appreciate it. My minpin sometimes is, and I have no way to control another dog that's off leash with no owner in sight. There's no reason why you should to let a pit, or any dog, run free in the city. I think the owner of these dogs is deeply neglectful. I spoke with him once, and I don't think he's playing with a full deck, either. :x
  • I think I'm going to call the Humane Society or the police. Although he's never lunged at me, I was terrified when I saw him running towards me and the two people with small children in strollers. Every time I see a Pit Bull attack on the news, I think of that dog. I don't think I could forgive myself if Angel attacked a person, a child, or another dog and I never even took a moment to call Animal Control. I've called The Humane Society, Animal Control, and 3-1-1 about this. Each agency has shifted me to another agency. Now I understand why so many helpless people are maimed by dangerous dogs. This is outrageous...
  • sje wrote: . . . I have no way to control another dog that's off leash with no owner in sight. :x
    That's more to the point for me, since my dog is j-e-a-l-o-u-s and prone to acting weird when he's leashed and the other isn't. Most dogs act better off leash - check out the hundreds in Prospect Park at off-leash hours.

    But I wouldn't go calling the law (or the humane society) on this dog. Pits are perfectly sweet dogs unless they've been trained to be aggressive, which this dog clearly hasn't.

    Those golden retrievers on the other hand...don't get me started!
  • where is our picture of angel? or all you kids drunk at soda or something?! :D
  • i think there is some confusion between 2 different dogs.
    the guy who owns the pit bull with the muzzle is different than alan the guy who owns lucky and samson.
    my dog plays with samson all the time

    and i'm not sure where the fear is with a dog wearing a muzzle?
    granted he shoudln't be off leash, however, with a muzzle the dog is IN more danger (from other dogs) than he IS a danger.
  • The pit I run into is in the same family as "Lucky", he has no muzzle. I don't care if he has no teeth, he needs to be on a leash.
  • I saw the owner bullshitting with an animal control officer last week while the pitbull was unmuzzled and off the leash, running around peeing on trees.
  • i saw alan talking to the woman from the ASPCA (not animal control) and samson continued rolling around on his back in front of the woman still unleashed.
    Lucky is never leashed either
    samson is an american standard bull not a pit and he has never worn a muzzle. He doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body.
    the dog wearing the muzzle and spiked collar IS a pit bull and he ALWAYS wears a muzzle and is usually off leash as well.
    Thats why i say that there was some confusion with the dogs.
    i guess if the argument is that the dogs should be leashed, then it should be ALL the dogs not just picking out the ones that are being perceived as 'dangerous' and i will not even get into 'breed bias'
    but there is this ridiculously aggressive yorkie in the neighborhood i would be far more concerned about that dog than about samson who wouldn't hurt a fly.
  • It's not only about whether the dog {of any breed} offleash is aggressive or not, it's the fact of walking down the street with your own dogs/children/ or just yourself and seeing one of them coming towards you, and not knowing what will happen. That's not good. And it's illegal, besides. :?
  • sje wrote: It's not only about whether the dog {of any breed} offleash is aggressive or not, it's the fact of walking down the street with your own dogs/children/ or just yourself and seeing one of them coming towards you, and not knowing what will happen. That's not good. And it's illegal, besides. :?
    absolutely agreed
    i was mostly responding to the original post and the subsequent posts mentioning only one dog when we all know that there are multiple dogs around the hood that are unleashed.

    i am sometimes guilty of this myself, since it is FAR easier to get my dog to pee when she is off leash...which is completely besides the point but i thought i would share anyway.
    :D
  • moufaisbad wrote: i saw alan talking to the woman from the ASPCA (not animal control) and samson continued rolling around on his back in front of the woman still unleashed.
    Lucky is never leashed either
    samson is an american standard bull not a pit and he has never worn a muzzle. He doesn't have an aggressive bone in his body.
    the dog wearing the muzzle and spiked collar IS a pit bull and he ALWAYS wears a muzzle and is usually off leash as well.
    Thats why i say that there was some confusion with the dogs.
    i guess if the argument is that the dogs should be leashed, then it should be ALL the dogs not just picking out the ones that are being perceived as 'dangerous' and i will not even get into 'breed bias'
    but there is this ridiculously aggressive yorkie in the neighborhood i would be far more concerned about that dog than about samson who wouldn't hurt a fly.
    I feel I should be honest here... That aggressive Yorkie belongs to me. He's only aggressive towards other dogs, but he LOVES people. I sincerely apologize on his behalf. Sometimes he really can be 6 1/2 pounds worth of terror....
  • I'd rather deal with the hostile reaction, stares, and occasional rude comment with a 6.5 lb Yorkie than with my 80 lb pitt-mix mutt (Stereo)...
  • RBG wrote: [quote=moufaisbad]
    but there is this ridiculously aggressive yorkie in the neighborhood i would be far more concerned about that dog than about samson who wouldn't hurt a fly.
    I feel I should be honest here... That aggressive Yorkie belongs to me. He's only aggressive towards other dogs, but he LOVES people. I sincerely apologize on his behalf. Sometimes he really can be 6 1/2 pounds worth of terror....

    omigod, YOU have a crazy dog, but you're talking about calling animal control on that other dog that is perfectly well behaved but has an owner who might be a little out of it? There's a special ring of hell for you, RBG.


    :evil:
  • pitu wrote: [quote=RBG][quote=moufaisbad]
    but there is this ridiculously aggressive yorkie in the neighborhood i would be far more concerned about that dog than about samson who wouldn't hurt a fly.
    I feel I should be honest here... That aggressive Yorkie belongs to me. He's only aggressive towards other dogs, but he LOVES people. I sincerely apologize on his behalf. Sometimes he really can be 6 1/2 pounds worth of terror....

    omigod, YOU have a crazy dog, but you're talking about calling animal control on that other dog that is perfectly well behaved but has an owner who might be a little out of it? There's a special ring of hell for you, RBG.


    :evil:

    Seriously, what else is new?
  • Pitu...
    I keep Moxie on a leash and he doesn't run towards people strolling their babies in carriages. But, yes, at time he barks at other dogs. To be fair, he has several doggie friends on the block including Dolci (minischnauzer), and Daisy the English bulldog. While you may feel there's a place in hell for me because I refuse to stand by, day after day and watch a pitbull run loose on the block, I believe there'd be a place in hell for me if (God Forbid) if the dog did attack someone and I never did anything to prevent it. Just this week, a woman was mauled by a off-leash pit while she was walking her much smaller dog. She was an old lady who got her face severly bitten while trying to protect her dog from the pit...It took two men and a baseball bat to stop the attack...[/img]
  • RBG wrote: I feel I should be honest here... That aggressive Yorkie belongs to me. He's only aggressive towards other dogs, but he LOVES people. I sincerely apologize on his behalf. Sometimes he really can be 6 1/2 pounds worth of terror....
    HAHAHAHA!!!
    thats YOUR dog that was across the street practically KILLING herself to get at my Great Dane?!?!!?

    "Moxie" is RIGHT!!!
    :lol:
  • RBG wrote: Pitu...
    I keep Moxie on a leash and he doesn't run towards people strolling their babies in carriages. But, yes, at time he barks at other dogs. To be fair, he has several doggie friends on the block including Dolci (minischnauzer), and Daisy the English bulldog. While you may feel there's a place in hell for me because I refuse to stand by, day after day and watch a pitbull run loose on the block, I believe there'd be a place in hell for me if (God Forbid) if the dog did attack someone and I never did anything to prevent it. Just this week, a woman was mauled by a off-leash pit while she was walking her much smaller dog. She was an old lady who got her face severly bitten while trying to protect her dog from the pit...It took two men and a baseball bat to stop the attack...[/img]
    I too have an agressive small dog (Oscar-Mayer the fox terrier), but like RBG I keep him on a leash. The biggest difference with a small dog is that when he's flipping out or looks like he might snap at someone, I can just pick him up.

    I've also picked him up when an unleashed pit on st johns came running at us, and it was scary. I just held my dog practically above my head while the owner sloooowly walked over and called his dog (which was jumping allover me trying to get to Oscar).
  • HAHAHAHA!!!
    thats YOUR dog that was across the street practically KILLING herself to get at my Great Dane?!?!!?
    ]
    Yes...that was Moxie...and I'm officially embarrassed...Next time I see you, I'll say hello---if Mox will let me... :oops:
  • I've also picked him up when an unleashed pit on st johns came running at us, and it was scary. I just held my dog practically above my head while the owner sloooowly walked over and called his dog (which was jumping allover me trying to get to Oscar)
    Unleashed pitbulls are unsafe for all of us...I'm glad nothing happened to you...
  • Really, irresponsible owners are bad for all of us. Pit bulls are just their "weapon of choice".

    My Patterdale Terrier happens to love playing with Pits, so I know that a number of the dogs in the neighborhood are completely safe. As I tell everyone--Pit Bulls are in the top five for best temperment.

    But DITTO on the off leashed dogs in the street.

    We really need a dog run in the neighborhood.
  • caaahyoko wrote: We really need a dog run in the neighborhood.
    Seriously? How about Prospect Park every morning 7-9 or evenings {forget exact times, like 5-7?}? It doesn't get more luxurious than that. We even have a dog beach! :D
  • Actually, I go to Mount Prospect park every day--which is included in the off-leash hours. I was very happy with the whole arrangement. Unfortunately, my dog got attacked last Thursday by a dog on a leash in the park.
    As I'm sure the other dog owners here know, dogs act very differently on a leash. Dogs on a leash tend to get very nervous when off-leash dogs come over.
    Plus, having a fenced, official dog run avoids arguments with morning joggers who are unaware of the off-leash hours.
  • Subject: ignorance

    I can't help but be totally disgusted at the guest who said she/he thinks she will call the police or the CACC regarding the pit bull who she sees off leash, but has never done anything to her or anyone she has seen.

    Hello, have you tried talking to the owner? Maybe if you talk to him/her reasonably, they might listen to your concerns. More importantly, you'd get a feel for the type of personality Angel has if you get a feel for the owner. Just like children, dogs' personalities are usually reflections of how they are treated at home. Have you ever thought the dog is running b/c it is HAPPY (they often do this) and wants to PLAY (dogs love to play).

    First, since the dog has a home and is with the owner when you see it, the police and/or animal control would do little other than what is suggested above (TALK to the owner). Further, if you call the CACC on a harmless animal that you have not seen do anything to anyone, and that animal REMOTELY looks like a pit bull, chances are it will be put to sleep within 1 hour of getting picked up. Few dogs deserve such a fate, not even the misunderstood and largely stereotyped breed of pit bulls.

    It seems to me a little communication and education can help both the person who posted that statement, and maybe even the dog or his parents, better than anything.
  • http://www.dogbitelaw.com/PAGES/statistics.html

    Scroll down towards the bottom... The dogs that bite the most are not pits. The statistics on this site are pretty interesting.
  • Um, am I the only person who noticed that this thread is months old? I don't see the sense in getting upset about it now...
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