No more Strollers at Union Hall
For parents that hang out at UnionHall.--Strollers and children who are ablet o walk are no longer allowed in. This is causing a little bit of a tizzy among some parents in the slope who are invoking some kind of . Personally, why in god's name do you want to take your kid to a bar? Please, I love to take a break from mine.
So now can someone please suggest a good place for color output in the slope?
So now can someone please suggest a good place for color output in the slope?
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RU DRUNK?
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can't tell if this is serious, but if so.awesome, babies and bars are a bad combination.
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I don't see any problem with parents bringing their kids and strollers there during the day. It seemed like a good compromise to boot them out after dark, once it starts getting crowded. No idea what the liability issues are, though, considering that there are the bocce ball courts where kids can easily wander into.
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Oh please dear god not this conversation. It's the Park Slope version of Mugging.
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Innocent X wrote: Oh please dear god not this conversation. It's the Park Slope version of Mugging.
Come on, you know the drill.
If you are not interested in the topic, go elsewhere.
Is this the same "no kids after dark" (or whatever the recent posted restriction was) policy? -
I think babies should be allowed in bars. And if their teenage babysitters order a drink, well, minding kids is thirsty work.
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Subject: Re: No more Strollers at Union Hall
WTGirl wrote: For parents that hang out at UnionHall.--Strollers and children who are ablet o walk are no longer allowed in. This is causing a little bit of a tizzy among some parents in the slope who are invoking some kind of . Personally, why in god's name do you want to take your kid to a bar?
Someone has to know the way home. -
Subject: Re: No more Strollers at Union Hall
WTGirl wrote: Personally, why in god's name do you want to take your kid to a bar? Please, I love to take a break from mine.
You've never been to a family pub in the UK have you?
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Subject: Re: No more Strollers at Union Hall
Evilbert wrote: [quote=WTGirl] Personally, why in god's name do you want to take your kid to a bar? Please, I love to take a break from mine.
You've never been to a family pub in the UK have you?
Not everyone in the UK is pleased about kids being in pubs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7171582.stm
And here's a question. If someone doesn't really like being around kids, where are they supposed to go? The "adult" places are no longer just for adults. All the places adults could go to have been overrun by families with kids. I don't go out so this doesn't really affect me but it's something I've been wondering about. -
in the old days people stayed home and got drunk
[ they were the ones that liked each other] -
Well, as someone who hates bars and clubs, and doesn't drink, I don't get it. When I lived on 5th Ave, I'd walk my dogs past the bars. Sometimes I felt like an anthropologist observing a foreign tribe. "Look at them, they seem to enjoy being packed in there with drunken strangers! Fascinating..."
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Afew weeks ago I suggested that we check out the Dram Shop on 9th Street on a Thursday early evening. We had our 2 year old grandson with us that night and afew friends sans kids.. My idea was not to get drunk but simply to try their burgers and have a beer.
My husband was truly aghast.... No way were we gonna take a toddler (even a well behaved one, who would have sat in his stroller and munched on a burger) to a bar. Hey.. I thought about it and realized this was not something I was gonna do.... but...questioning myself as to why I kind of "lost my mind" on this one long enough to even suggest the idea. I have the answer... been living in Park Slope too long and observing so many parents who have no issues at all about kids in bars.
Bring back the old days where everyone got drunk at home!! -
caseopele wrote: Well, as someone who hates bars and clubs, and doesn't drink, I don't get it. When I lived on 5th Ave, I'd walk my dogs past the bars. Sometimes I felt like an anthropologist observing a foreign tribe. "Look at them, they seem to enjoy being packed in there with drunken strangers! Fascinating..."
Kids belong in bars more than dogs belong on city sidewalks. -
Innocent X wrote: [quote=caseopele]Well, as someone who hates bars and clubs, and doesn't drink, I don't get it. When I lived on 5th Ave, I'd walk my dogs past the bars. Sometimes I felt like an anthropologist observing a foreign tribe. "Look at them, they seem to enjoy being packed in there with drunken strangers! Fascinating..."
Kids belong in bars more than dogs belong on city sidewalks.
How the heck did you come up with that one? :? -
caseopele wrote: [quote=Innocent X][quote=caseopele]Well, as someone who hates bars and clubs, and doesn't drink, I don't get it. When I lived on 5th Ave, I'd walk my dogs past the bars. Sometimes I felt like an anthropologist observing a foreign tribe. "Look at them, they seem to enjoy being packed in there with drunken strangers! Fascinating..."
Kids belong in bars more than dogs belong on city sidewalks.
How the heck did you come up with that one? :?
Well I admit that I am dog lover but gotta second the notion that I can't iamgine the leap of logic that made the connection to begin with. -
Only logical connection I can make is that neither of the above makes any legitimate sense. Children do not belong in bars, nor do dogs belong locked up on sidewalks outside of stores. Period, end of story.
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if we could smoke in bars this would not even be an issue.
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Subject: Re: No more Strollers at Union Hall
caseopele wrote: [quote=Evilbert][quote=WTGirl] Personally, why in god's name do you want to take your kid to a bar? Please, I love to take a break from mine.
You've never been to a family pub in the UK have you?
Not everyone in the UK is pleased about kids being in pubs.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk/7171582.stm
And here's a question. If someone doesn't really like being around kids, where are they supposed to go? The "adult" places are no longer just for adults. All the places adults could go to have been overrun by families with kids. I don't go out so this doesn't really affect me but it's something I've been wondering about.
I've been wondering this too. I really don't think bars are appropriate for kids, because adults are not on their best behavior there. I can understand why parents, especially those with small apartments, might want to get out of the house and hang out somewhere with other adults. But isn't that what babysitters are for? -
I think that it is immaterial what one's personal beliefs are as to the place of children in bars. Ditto for the UK's stance. As if there was an official one. I would argue that the owner of the bar has EVERY right to impose whatever restrictions he sees fit on the presence of children and strollers in his bar. The customers can vote with their wallets, no one is forcing them to patronize his childless bar. They can move on to a child friendly bar elsewhere.
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I think one of the main concerns for UH is the stroller parking and liability. My understanding is that non-walking children are allowed. I know from places like Tea Lounge it can become more annoying than dangerous to walk around/over strollers - but that's for people who have their balance in check. And if it's keeping their clientele from coming in, aren't they allowed to change that policy? Also, UH has those stairs and I don't think they should HAVE to get a gate just to accommodate children running around. If they don't have one, however, they are playing with a potential lawsuit. Then again, there are places that have made the business decision to be accommodating to children, and I'd think it's usually based on whom they want to attract.
On the other hand, I've been to a few happy hours geared towards parents with their kids, and it's nice to be able to hang out and have a beer (or a seltzer and cranberry) while visiting with other people who aren't annoyed with your kids. Most parents (believe it or not) avoid places in which their kids will be a nuisance. For example, choosing Aunt Suzie's over Al Di La. Or going to dinner at 5:30 instead of 7:30.
Union Hall has every right (my non-legally-trained mind believes) to say NO to strollers or children. Don't they? -
Louise Crawford (OTBKB / Smartmom) actually sums this one up pretty well for me:
http://onlytheblogknowsbrooklyn.typepad.com/only_the_blog_knows_brook/2008/01/do-kids-need-to.html
And I am a parent. -
jeffrey wrote: Louise Crawford (OTBKB / Smartmom) actually sums this one up pretty well for me:
She needs an editor.
http://onlytheblogknowsbrooklyn.typepad.com/only_the_blog_knows_brook/2008/01/do-kids-need-to.html
And I am a parent. -
Good. I didn't do it when my kid was in a stroller and I don't like when other people do it. If I'm out for a few pops it's a break from kids, I don't need that ruined by somebody else's squawking meatbags. There are places that encourage this scene - and fair enough, I avoid them; what I don't like to see is a clearly adult establishment with a bunch of strollers. That's automatic walkout for me. I didn't like it when I lived in Ireland either, it's just where I draw the line I guess.
Good point about the smoking, too. -
When I'm in a good mood, I don't mind kids in bars in the daytime as long as they are behaving themselves and not climbing the walls. But this is the same way I feel about kids in the Tea Lounge, the B75, and Neergaards. Calm those kids down, parents!
However, I would sincerely like to see more kids of walking age actually WALKING. Why must they get pushed around until junior high in these tractor-like strollers. I see plenty of rather tall, ambulatory looking children being chauffered around which then creating parking problems in restaurants, shops, and bars, which is probably what Union Hall is objecting to.
Leave the stroller at home and get your kid some exercise. -
Ha! I know - kids who can walk should. I'm not advocating for one year olds to clog up the streets walking three feet an hour, but on New Years Day I saw the funniest/saddest thing-- a kid who had to be five years old was crammed into a stroller. His feet hung over the edge though and he kept pulling this trick of putting his foot on the ground so the stroller jerked to a stop and mom tripped over it. I saw him do it three times and each time both the kid and I laughed.
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Call me old fashioned, but, I see no reason to bring your child to a bar. I have 2 children and have never found the need to bring either of them to a bar with me.
oh, and the stroller thing is one of my major pet peeves! it drives me crazy when I see 3 and 4 and 5 year olds being pushed one block in a stroller-give me a break! -
Well, with the amount of morons who ride their bikes on sidewalks, putting even a 5 year old in a stroller to protect them from getting hit does make some sense.
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LongTimeSloper wrote: oh, and the stroller thing is one of my major pet peeves! it drives me crazy when I see 3 and 4 and 5 year olds being pushed one block in a stroller-give me a break!
Maybe it's just me, but I've been seeing a little less of this. I mean, I still see it, but not out of control 4-5 years ago when you'd see bored looking 7 y.o. kids angled into strollers.
I'm thinking this bit may have shamed a few people:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/25512 -
Drano wrote: [quote=LongTimeSloper]oh, and the stroller thing is one of my major pet peeves! it drives me crazy when I see 3 and 4 and 5 year olds being pushed one block in a stroller-give me a break!
Maybe it's just me, but I've been seeing a little less of this. I mean, I still see it, but not out of control 4-5 tears ago when you'd see bored looking 7 y.o. kids angled into strollers.
I'm thinking this bit may have shamed a few people:
http://www.theonion.com/content/node/25512
That cracked me up.
And I haven't seen too many older kids in strollers in the past few years either, except for a couple autistic kids which is totally understandable.
Oh, and lanciano, I agree with you about the well-behaved kids. I have absolutely no problem with them.
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