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  • caseopele
    caseopele
    I'm glad you brought that up pitu, Lady Day's story is a perfect example of why people shouldn't leave their dogs outside stores. You just don't know what can happen. Who would have thought a grey haired woman would steal someone's dog?

    Lady Day was very lucky that she made it back home. I just wish people would be more careful with their dogs.
  • username: *
    username: *
    linusvanpelt wrote: ... Honestly it amazes me... that we need 500 posts about an issue that boils down to: "Don't be an asshole."
    I have only been reading this forum for, maybe, four months, and most of my amazement has bled out. (Whatever is left, though, is usually stirred by my recurring realization that this forum is populated by such a diverse group: bona fide bright lights, full of compassion and insight, rubbing elbows with loutish instigating morons. Honest-to-god morons. Why, though, should this be different than real life?)

    ...I have two dogs and usually rail at the doggism I encounter, but I do not regularly run errands with them. With me, it's that being in a store seems to bug them. They are more at home outside, or at home, so taking them on an errand seems selfish. If your dog grooves on that, though, and isn't menacing passersby or soiling the appurtenances, I say vive la difference.

    I appreciate being able to have a beer with my dog and the few small stores and whatnot that do not mind if I bop in for a soda or something on my way to the park. But I think, maybe, this boundary of Assholery referred to above is a little closer to Leaving the Dog at Home (i.e. if your dog is pounding one out at Barnes & Noble, you might have a problem with self-importance) than many here would like to admit.
  • smitty
    smitty
    I love dogs, but I think that bringing them shopping is not appropriate. People should be able to go shopping without tripping over people's dogs or being sniffed by them. Some people are afraid of dogs, and it's not the same as being afraid of heights - they can avoid heights by choice, but when they are shopping it's not fair if they can't avoid your dog when they are just trying to go about their business in a store. It's just not necessary to bring your dog shopping. I've seen large dogs in clothing stores and I just don't get it. It's also an insurance issue for the store - if a dog bites a customer in the store, the store can be sued.
  • caseopele
    caseopele
    Smitty, I believe we covered the fear of dogs thing earlier in this thread. As far as insurance issues, there are many things that people can sue over. The store I work at doesn't have a public bathroom and we can't allow anyone to use our bathroom for fear if something happens that someone could sue us.

    And in the 6 years I've been working there no dog has bitten anyone because the dogs that come in have responsible owners. Their dogs are well-behaved and know that if they are good in the store that they get treats at the counter. What actually causes more problems is another type of small being which I am forbidden to compare dogs to for fear of causing a ruckus.

    It doesn't matter whether dogs are allowed in stores or not, there will always be someone who will find something to complain about in any store. You can't please everyone. I can attest to that personally since I've worked with the buying public for almost 16 years. No matter how much you try to accomodate people there is always someone searching for something to complain about.

    I will continue to allow people to bring their dogs into the store as long as they behave themselves. I'm on my feet for 7-8 hours a day, getting to see a friendly happy dog for a few seconds brightens my day. It makes up for the times I have to smile at someone who is treating me like a complete imbecile because I'm just a cashier and they are an oh-so-important whatever. We are all human beings deserving of a modicum of respect and we all have to make concessions at some point.
  • smitty
    smitty
    Yeah, I know it was "covered" earlier in the thread. I'm not allowed to voice my opinion and add input? Sheesh.
  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    I had a nice experience today. I went to Lowe's reallly quick just to get some sandpaper, and brought Foxy with me. While I was waiting in line at the self-checkout, an older man on a rascal-type scooter stopped to compliment me on how well my dog responds to me and how well he was behaving. It really made my day to hear that, and more importantly Foxy put a smile on the man's face.

    But Foxy would never be that well behaved if I didn't take him out into these situations. It makes a huge difference when you condition your dog to be relaxed around people--and train him to sit down next to you when you're standing still. ;)

    Caseopele is right. Well behaved dogs + responsible owners + public location = happier people. I've noticed that I get only a few evil looks vs. the numerous people are excited to see my dogs.
  • caseopele
    caseopele
    Smitty, your post didn't seem like you'd really read through the fear of dogs thing. Everyone has fears but if someone has a fear of something they are going to come into contact with on a daily basis then it's beneficial for them to find a way to deal with it. Especially in Park Slope, where there are alot of dogs. As for being allowed to voice your opinion? I don't believe I said anything about you not having that right. Did you read my whole reply or did you stop after the first line?

    caaahyoko, once again your post is dead on! People don't want to deal with unruly dogs but they don't want to allow those dogs to be socialized near them. A dog that experiences more is better equipped to handle different situations. I rarely have people over so when someone does come to my house my dogs go nuts. But I know that if I had people over on a regular basis my dogs would be much calmer. And I think I need a shirt that says "Well behaved dogs + responsible owners + Shawn's = happier cashier!"
  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    caseopele wrote: And I think I need a shirt that says "Well behaved dogs + responsible owners + Shawn's = happier cashier!"
    hehe :lol:
    Everyone has fears but if someone has a fear of something they are going to come into contact with on a daily basis then it's beneficial for them to find a way to deal with it.
    You're absolutely right. The person with the fear has to change their mindset. You can't erradicate the thing you are afraid of, and avoiding it is just unhealthy. You're blocking your ch'i, man.
  • caseopele
    caseopele
    caaahyoko, please come visit Shawn's with (or without) your dogs if you're ever nearby. I'm there every evening except Tuesday and Thursday and we have treats (human and dog)!
  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    caseopele wrote: caaahyoko, please come visit Shawn's with (or without) your dogs if you're ever nearby. I'm there every evening except Tuesday and Thursday and we have treats (human and dog)!
    I was just thinking that I should! I wanted to check out the community bookstore as well, so it sounds like I'll make a trip out of it. :)
  • opossumqueen
    opossumqueen
    Burrito Bar's sidewalk area. When it's warm I often see folks eating outside with a pup hanging out.

    Personally, I am more likely to go into a store (or farmer's market booth) if I see a dog or cat.

    Any updates on dog-friendly businesses?
  • opossumqueen
    opossumqueen
    Burrito Bar's sidewalk area. When it's warm I often see folks eating outside with a pup hanging out.

    Personally, I am more likely to go into a store (or farmer's market booth) if I see a dog or cat.

    Any updates on dog-friendly businesses?
  • scarlett
    scarlett
    A friend always takes her dog with her to COmmonwealth.
  • scarlett
    scarlett
    A friend always takes her dog with her to COmmonwealth.
  • the chipster
    the chipster
    Saturday, January 5, 2008
    Newsday


    NEW YORK -- An 8-month-old boy was attacked and killed by the family's pet Doberman pinscher in Brooklyn on Thursday afternoon, police said.


    Yep, and the mother of that child could predict and "know" her dog would never do such a thing. NOT!
    They are dogs. I have a feeling it's not just the snatching fear that everyone is against--you just don't want to see canine-americans tied up. What if they were off the leash? They'd still sit and wait for you. Would that be ok with those of you who are so much more superior to me?
    Woof!
  • veets
    veets
    The Chipster wrote: Saturday, January 5, 2008
    Newsday


    NEW YORK -- An 8-month-old boy was attacked and killed by the family's pet Doberman pinscher in Brooklyn on Thursday afternoon, police said.


    Yep, and the mother of that child could predict and "know" her dog would never do such a thing. NOT!
    They are dogs. I have a feeling it's not just the snatching fear that everyone is against--you just don't want to see canine-americans tied up. What if they were off the leash? They'd still sit and wait for you. Would that be ok with those of you who are so much more superior to me?
    Woof!
    Chipster.. I am having one of those confused evenings because I just don't get how your response relates to the topic of this thread. If you care to explain.... go for it. If not,... I can still continue my life.
  • caseopele
    caseopele
    veets wrote: [quote=The Chipster]Saturday, January 5, 2008
    Newsday


    NEW YORK -- An 8-month-old boy was attacked and killed by the family's pet Doberman pinscher in Brooklyn on Thursday afternoon, police said.


    Yep, and the mother of that child could predict and "know" her dog would never do such a thing. NOT!
    They are dogs. I have a feeling it's not just the snatching fear that everyone is against--you just don't want to see canine-americans tied up. What if they were off the leash? They'd still sit and wait for you. Would that be ok with those of you who are so much more superior to me?
    Woof!
    Chipster.. I am having one of those confused evenings because I just don't get how your response relates to the topic of this thread. If you care to explain.... go for it. If not,... I can still continue my life.

    veets, you're not alone. I have no idea what this is about either.
  • eggcream
    eggcream
    pitu wrote:
    :D
    And caahyoko, thx for shooting down the troll without using gasoline.
    So if someone disagrees with you they're a troll?
  • eggcream
    eggcream
    veets wrote: [quote=The Chipster]Saturday, January 5, 2008
    Newsday


    NEW YORK -- An 8-month-old boy was attacked and killed by the family's pet Doberman pinscher in Brooklyn on Thursday afternoon, police said.


    Yep, and the mother of that child could predict and "know" her dog would never do such a thing. NOT!
    They are dogs. I have a feeling it's not just the snatching fear that everyone is against--you just don't want to see canine-americans tied up. What if they were off the leash? They'd still sit and wait for you. Would that be ok with those of you who are so much more superior to me?
    Woof!
    Chipster.. I am having one of those confused evenings because I just don't get how your response relates to the topic of this thread. If you care to explain.... go for it. If not,... I can still continue my life.

    What's hard to understand. Those posting here FOR dogs allowed in stores say they can predict the behavior of their dogs ie they won't bite, poop etc in stores.

    The Chister posted a story about a family losing their baby over a family dog, obviously they didn't know their dog as well as they thought.

    Anyone having a doberman or a pitbull with a baby is asking for it but that's for another thread.

    I love all animals, always have but I don't want them in stores. You own a dog, take the time to walk him by himself in a designated dog area of the park. Don't try and kill two birds with one stone by walking him and getting your errands done. I'm sure the pinheads who sit inside for an hour eating in a restaurant while Spot sits freezing outside with pedestrians stepping over him think well at least he's outside and not in the house. You get a dog, be responsible for him.
  • caseopele
    caseopele
    eggcream wrote: Anyone having a doberman or a pitbull with a baby is asking for it but that's for another thread.
    Oh, you do not want to go there. I'll limit myself to saying that's an ignorant comment.
  • mookie wilson
    mookie wilson
    pawtisserie is rather dog-friendly. so is the pet food store on 5th and Berkeley.
  • opossumqueen
    opossumqueen
    I've not been to Commonwealth in a while so am curious about their dog policy. I know during the summer I've seen dogs on the patio, but are they generally welcome inside as well?

    (We are getting a rather social pup that likes to hang out where the people are, otherwise I wouldn't consider taking him out for something like this.)
  • brooklynpotter
    brooklynpotter
    was in chelsea the other say and saw a sign in the window of a CVS (actually, the store was plastered with them!). they said something about insurance not letting anyone bring their dogs in with them any longer.

    i wonder if that's true.

    then again, the other day we were at the DMV tow-pound and this woman walked in with her dog, wearing a toggle coat (said dog) and stood there in line. nobody said anything.
  • eggcream
    eggcream
    caseopele wrote: [quote=eggcream]Anyone having a doberman or a pitbull with a baby is asking for it but that's for another thread.
    Oh, you do not want to go there. I'll limit myself to saying that's an ignorant comment.

    Yeah, cause we all know how some poodles kill babies.
  • brooklynpotter
    brooklynpotter
    and cats, you know, they suffocate babies. they take the air ouf of them, or their room, or something.
  • caseopele
    caseopele
    eggcream wrote: Yeah, cause we all know how some poodles kill babies.
    How about a Jack Russell terrier?

    http://www.courier-journal.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20080118/NEWS01/301180023/1008

    http://www.nzherald.co.nz/section/1/story.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=10461862

    Or a dachshund?
    http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/chi-dog_bite_bothnov06,1,6872373.story?ctrack=1&cset=true

    http://www.orangeleader.com/news/local_story_099223620.html/resources_printstory

    Labs or Retrievers?
    http://www.kptv.com/news/14920969/detail.html

    http://www.kctv5.com/news/14188544/detail.html

    http://www.dailynewstribune.com/homepage/x1744214323

    http://www.nwherald.com/articles/2007/08/02/news/local/doc46b1a432aedbc286067502.prt

    http://www.680news.com/news/local/article.jsp?content=20070313_170507_5076

    Beagle?
    http://www.kcentv.com/news/c-article.php?cid=12&nid=658

    Collies?
    http://www.metro.co.uk/news/article.html?in_article_id=52184&in_page_id=34

    http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/local-national/article2364529.ece?service=print

    Cocker Spaniel
    http://www.khnl.com/global/story.asp?s=6117534&ClientType=Printable

    Australian shepherd
    http://www.register-mail.com/stories/031707/MAI_BCLU11Q9.GID.shtml

    Greyhounds
    http://www.sptimes.com/2007/12/21/news_pf/Southpinellas/Pack_of_greyhounds_at.shtml

    Pomeranian
    http://www.seacoastonline.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?AID=/20071013/NEWS/710130317

    Weimeraner
    http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/scotland/glasgow_and_west/7102009.stm

    Shih-tzu
    http://icliverpool.icnetwork.co.uk/printable_version.cfm?objectid=19578787&siteid=50061

    Check out how many attacks are attributed to pitbull "type" dogs. I don't put much stock in eyewitness testimony nor the ability of most people to recognize a pitbull. Here's a fun game, find the pitbull!

    http://www.understand-a-bull.com/Findthebull/findpitbull_v3.html

    http://members.aol.com/radogz/find.html

    There's more info in this thread
    http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=5262

    You may also want to check out the American Temperament Test Society's breed statistics
    http://www.atts.org/

    Here's a sample
    Pitbull type dogs
    AMERICAN PIT BULL TERRIER 84.1%
    AMERICAN STAFFORDSHIRE TERRIER 83.9%
    STAFFORDSHIRE BULL TERRIER 85.2%

    BEAGLE 79.7%
    CHIHUAHUA 71.4%
    COCKER SPANIEL 81.7%
    DACHSHUND (MINIATURE LONGHAIRED) 86.4%
    DACHSHUND (MINIATURE SMOOTH) 76.9%
    DACHSHUND (MINIATURE WIREHAIRED) 81.0%
    DACHSHUND (STANDARD LONGHAIRED) 71.0%
    DACHSHUND (STANDARD SMOOTH) 66.7%
    DACHSHUND (STANDARD WIREHAIRED) 83.3%
    GOLDEN RETRIEVER 83.8%
    JACK RUSSELL TERRIER 81.5%
    MINIATURE POODLE 76.6%
    SHIH TZU 76.9%
    TOY POODLE 81.6%

    As a pitbull owner I tend to get really angry when people make comments like you did. My pit was the only animal in my house (out of 6 female cats and another dog) that showed any maternal instinct toward the 2 and 3 week old kittens I took in last year. Anecdata yes, but I do know this dog and what she's capable of. I'm only going to suggest that you do some research on your own before making sweeping generalizations about pitbulls. These dogs cannot win. Pits like mine "just haven't shown their true colors yet", no one in the media is looking at how dogs that bite are trained, treated, whether or not they are even pitbulls. Stories like the ones above don't strike the same fear in people because they're not about "vicious" pitbulls. See for yourself, make your own decisions.
  • amyargh
    amyargh
    I've seen pups in Gorilla a few times.
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