Primary Day: did you get called?
Curious about the electioneering this round --
I got two prerecorded messages on my home machine, a couple days ago
Yvette Clark for Clinton and
HRC for herself
Outside the polling station, it was all Obama leafletters
I was only #20 at the polling station around 7:30 this morning...
How 'bout you? Get any calls? Anybody voting?
I got two prerecorded messages on my home machine, a couple days ago
Yvette Clark for Clinton and
HRC for herself
Outside the polling station, it was all Obama leafletters
I was only #20 at the polling station around 7:30 this morning...
How 'bout you? Get any calls? Anybody voting?
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One of the best things about getting rid of my land line...
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No calls.
Definitely am voting.
Not sure what all the love fest is over Obama. He is pretty conservative and is going to ruin our one real chance at Universal Healthcare with his wimpy NON existent plan--don't ask anyone to pay in to our own infrastructure, god forbid--it is just a further extension of pleasing the me me me generations. For the first time in history we are poised to make a real change and he will blow it with his middle of the road approach. Can't say I love Hillary either but I have to give her my vote for today just to protest Obama's health plan and hope that he comes back with a real plan. -
Ooo, I got a second call from HRC.
The score thus far:
Friday, Yvette Clark
Monday, HRC
Tuesday, HRC
But nothing in the mail from anybody, thank god, and at least the booth appeared to be working at my polling station.
Paul Krugman broke down the healthcare plans in his column in yesterday's NYT
Clinton, Obama, InsuranceKrugman wrote: If you combine the economic analysis with these political realities, here’s what I think it says: If Mrs. Clinton gets the Democratic nomination, there is some chance — nobody knows how big — that we’ll get universal health care in the next administration. If Mr. Obama gets the nomination, it just won’t happen.
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No calls, but I am cell-only. Obama-ettes were all over me coming off the subway Sunday night in the west village though.
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Yep-i got those calls also-from Yvette Clark and from Hillary. Just got a Hillary call a few minutes ago actually.
i am going to vote later-I am the only one in my house who is registered to a party-so, i feel i must get out there and vote-but, honestly, I am still torn between Hillary and Obama. I just took a quiz online that someone at another board posted and it came up that I agreed 70% with Obama and 65% with Hillary-so, still torn! So, if you see someone at MS 51 later tossing a coin, it's probably me! -
I have a cell phone/no land line, so no such calls here. And I can't wait to vote. Got up early today to do so, then realized I was on the subway and forgot! Damn I needed some coffee! They are open until 9pm tonight so I'm going after work.]
Oh and here is a "fairly" good link if you are still undecided:
http://www.electoralcompass.com/ -
HRC called a little after 9 am.
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kosherdave wrote: Oh and here is a "fairly" good link if you are still undecided:
Interesting. It put me more Obama than Hillary, due to more social tendencies being more liberal, and my economic ones being more conservative. I am the antithesis of Huckabee, FWIW.
http://www.electoralcompass.com/ -
"LongTimeSloper" wrote:
I have followed the debates and I don't see a big difference in the two on policy positions.
i am going to vote later-I am the only one in my house who is registered to a party-so, i feel i must get out there and vote-but, honestly, I am still torn between Hillary and Obama. I just took a quiz online that someone at another board posted and it came up that I agreed 70% with Obama and 65% with Hillary-so, still torn! So, if you see someone at MS 51 later tossing a coin, it's probably me!
I think the only difference I see is
A. electability. I think Obama might be more electable against McCain? People really hate Hillary and Bill and they like McCain.
B. Universal Healthcare. Hillary has a plan that might actually make a difference and Obama does not. So Healthcare would be shelved yet again with Obama and I think Hillary would get something passed this time.
C. the length of time to withdraw the troops.
I don't see much else? -
daver wrote: [quote=kosherdave]Oh and here is a "fairly" good link if you are still undecided:
Interesting. It put me more Obama than Hillary, due to more social tendencies being more liberal, and my economic ones being more conservative. I am the antithesis of Huckabee, FWIW.
http://www.electoralcompass.com/
I got the same thing. -
Yep-I agree WT. One quiz said i was more in line with Hillary and the quiz above said i was more in line with Obama. but, it is a minute difference.
But, I have made my decision and will be at the polls later. -
No calls. I have a cell phone only. I just voted.
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WTGirl wrote: [quote=LongTimeSloper]
I have followed the debates and I don't see a big difference in the two on policy positions.
i am going to vote later-I am the only one in my house who is registered to a party-so, i feel i must get out there and vote-but, honestly, I am still torn between Hillary and Obama. I just took a quiz online that someone at another board posted and it came up that I agreed 70% with Obama and 65% with Hillary-so, still torn! So, if you see someone at MS 51 later tossing a coin, it's probably me!
I think the only difference I see is
A. electability. I think Obama might be more electable against McCain? People really hate Hillary and Bill and they like McCain.
B. Universal Healthcare. Hillary has a plan that might actually make a difference and Obama does not. So Healthcare would be shelved yet again with Obama and I think Hillary would get something passed this time.
C. the length of time to withdraw the troops.
I don't see much else?
How about leadership? Obama is much better poised to build a consensus to actually accomplish his policy goals. And he'll go a lot farther than Clinton in terms of rebuilding our reputation and our relationships with our current and future allies around the world. -
"Carnivore" wrote:
I guess I thought of that is electability?
How about leadership? Obama is much better poised to build a consensus to actually accomplish his policy goals. And he'll go a lot farther than Clinton in terms of rebuilding our reputation and our relationships with our current and future allies around the world.
The world loves the Clintons so I think they would both be strong rebuilding our shattered relationships around the world.
I am not a Hillary fan and I want to be an Obama fan but just am not. -
I've had it with everyone telling me I have to like Obama. I don't like
him and I don't think he is as progressive as people want to believe.
I'll vote for Hillary tonight because she may have a chance against McCain
if she runs a good campaign, and has some good luck.
I don't think Obama can win against McCain, and my dream is to get the republicans out of the White House. -
No calls - but I'm on the Federal Do Not Call list if that's applicable??
I voted at 8:00 AM this morning at 321 - a good crowd, lots of Obama people on all corners.
My co-worker experienced a broken machine in the South Slope and my wife experienced a broken machine at 321 at 9:00 AM - she waited 25 minutes for it to be repaired and she said about 10 people walked out w/o voting because of it.
I was excited to be voting - haven't felt that way in a long time. And today I actually voted for someone as against someone.
Unlike the previous poster, I think Hillary is unelectable in a general election.
And, yes, there are no true progressives running anymore in this country - but we have to get the GOP out of town, no matter what![/i] -
Maybe because of my age group (50's), a percentage of my extended circle wouldn't be upset with McCain election. He has a large following because of his constant exposure on talk shows. Many people buy into his self proclaimed mantle of a maverick and the fact that the right wing talk shows don't like him gives them a comfort factor.
I don't feel the love for Obama, neither did any of the 7 other women I had dinner with last Thursday, and neither did my dinner companions on Saturday nor my husbands family on Sunday. I estimate a quarter of all of them would vote McCain over Obama.
All of them would vote Hillary over McCain. -
"reader" wrote: Maybe because of my age group (50's), a percentage of my extended circle wouldn't be upset with McCain election. He has a large following because of his constant exposure on talk shows. Many people buy into his self proclaimed mantle of a maverick and the fact that the right wing talk shows don't like him gives them a comfort factor.
That is interesting and a little scary frankly. I like McCain as a persona but his policies are pretty scary and I do NOT want him elected. We will stay in Iraq forever if he is elected and he will further dismantle the federal government. He has NO interest in the economy--which is problemmatic heading into a recession.
I don't feel the love for Obama, neither did any of the 7 other women I had dinner with last Thursday, and neither did my dinner companions on Saturday nor my husbands family on Sunday. I estimate a quarter of all of them would vote McCain over Obama.
All of them would vote Hillary over McCain.
I think maybe the older generation is not seeing anything new in Obama. He seems to have passion and fire (which counts for something) but I just haven't found his content yet. (I am looking believe me, I want to get behind him because I worry Hillary isn't electable and we have to get these people OUT of the white house).Will the energized young people who are getting up and voting be fickle and lose interest? Is this Howard Dean all over again? -
reader - women over 50 are Hillary's bread & butter.
What to watch tonight -
If Hillary doesn't win NY by 20 + points she's in trouble
If Obama wins big in the South then Hillary's support among blacks is eroding
If Obama takes any two out of Mass, Missouri and California - then it could be a long road for Hillary.
And the wild card - will and how will young people vote ??????? -
Livetotravel wrote: No calls - but I'm on the Federal Do Not Call list if that's applicable??
I voted at 8:00 AM this morning at 321 - a good crowd, lots of Obama people on all corners.
My co-worker experienced a broken machine in the South Slope and my wife experienced a broken machine at 321 at 9:00 AM - she waited 25 minutes for it to be repaired and she said about 10 people walked out w/o voting because of it.
I was excited to be voting - haven't felt that way in a long time. And today I actually voted for someone as against someone.
Unlike the previous poster, I think Hillary is unelectable in a general election.
And, yes, there are no true progressives running anymore in this country - but we have to get the GOP out of town, no matter what![/i]
We are on the Do Not Call list also and still received calls.
this is my worry too, I want the Republicans out of the White House and am just not sure who is more electable at this point-Obama or Hillary-I see things working in both of their favors. -
Kinda sucks that as a registered independent, I can't vote. I really wanted to vote for McCain. Just to shove it up that fascist Romney's butt!!!
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The Do Not Call list specifically excludes political calls, charities and companies with which you already do business (so Cablevision can call you to try to sell you their VOIP phone service, for example, or your credit card company can call you to try to sell you services like "identity protector").
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I am happy with the results (I know off topic). But this gives each candidate more time to either prove themselves or else burn out. Last time we annointed Kerry WAY too soon. We can get a sense of who has the best shot of beating McCain.
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