Loins are burning

see - I knew I'd enable a 14-yr-old boy

Livetotravel wrote: do you "feminists" out there really approve of this?
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probably i'm too "poorly educated" to understand, but i forgot about the part in feminism where i'm supposed to be ashamed of my body and hate sex. and the part where women can't make decisions for themselves. and the part where models are a bigger deal than working conditions. and the part where feminism is monolithic.

a week ago, you were posting quotations about how we're so over feminism that supporting a female politician was unnecessary -- even one whose ankles and pantsuits and breasts get frequent media attention.

i've got good lesbian feminist credentials and the fire-eating wand to prove it. please don't condescend to me.

I really think this thread needs some balance.
http://www.modestapparelusa.com/

The horror!

MY EYES!!! THE GOGGLES DO NOTHING!!!

hey, I'm all for fighting lousy body image media, but, as others have said, AA is not the first company to exploit women's bodies for cash and certainly won't be thelast. and as I've said, I've got no problems checking out half-naked 18 year old men making out with each other so come on AA - show me some hottttness.

however, if any of those sexual harassment suits actually make it through, I hope those women get every penny coming to them. there's a huge difference between selling products using sex (which, let's be honest, almost every corporation does) and coercing people into having sex.

caaahyoko wrote: [quote=Livetotravel]

I give-up on this topic. And just as an fyi - I am a over 50 white male who works for a women's reproductive health and rights organization who will continue to find images like these troubling and offensive, not because of any puritanical genetic makeup, oh, au contraire, but because of how I see the societal impact on young women through continuous misogynous and exploitive treatment of women.

Don't confuse culture influencing advertising with advertising influencing culture--with the latter being a big, fat myth.

And I'm as puzzled as you are, sweet tea, about how I need to be "protected" by some old white guy from things that my rational brain can deal with just fine.

:roll: :roll: 8) 8)

lolita was 12

mr. met wrote: http://store.americanapparel.net/women-one-pieces.html

the hotness

thank you kind sir.

caseopele wrote: I can't stand pretty much all advertising for a number of reasons. I hate the AA ads, I think they're vulgar and in poor taste. Every female in the ads I've seen look like they're about 10 seconds from getting banged. The AA ads remind me of those Calvin Klein 70's basement neighborhood perv ads. I am aware that most of the advertising industry uses sex to sell products but I still don't think it's okay. And I feel AA (and some AA supporters) use their labor practices to excuse the ads.

Lest some people think I'm a prude, I enjoy dirty pictures as much as the next person. An ex took a nude pic of me when I was 21, I have no problem showing it to people. That's because I think it's tasteful and I looked pretty damn hot then. One of my favorite girlie pics is of Cynthia Hall, the March 1971 playmate of the month. Personally, I prefer the whole ass in the air, fuck me now poses in my porn, not on huge billboards.

Pure poetry 8)

mr. met wrote:

Pure poetry Cool

how do you feel about abercrombie and fitch advertisements? those girls actually ARE under 18.

From a Dec 2003 article...

Abercrombie & Fitch Move into Kiddie Porn Full-Time
By: Frank Williams
COLUMBUS, OH - On the heels of announcing that it will discontinue its sexually explicit quarterly catalog, Clothing retailer Abercrombie & Fitch has announced plans to convert all 602 stores it operates into "Abercrombie & Fitch Kiddie Porn Palace" stores. This move by the suburban New Albany-based company represents a slight departure from the original company vision that founders David Abercrombie and Ezra Fitch had in 1904.

"The depiction of nude teenagers in recent catalogs was an attempt to reconnect to our roots, " said company CEO Art Fitch, "My grandfather was always an outdoor enthusiast second, but an incestuous perv first." According to Fitch, the company was originally formed as a way for Abercrombie and Fitch to impress their cute cousins. In fact, they impressed them so much that both men eventually moved the company to Utah so that they could each marry multiple cousins. It was there that A&F gained its reputation for quality outdoor products and nude children performing sex acts.

Shoppers at Abercrombie & Fitch stores will see a gradual change in the merchandise and layout of the store starting in mid-February. "Few people will notice the difference at first, " said COO Max Abercrombie, "we'll start off by replacing camping gear with our line of Gangbang Teen DVDs and magazines and then sometime in March, the ladies section will be replaced with thousands of pre-teen hardcore DVDs." According to an Abercrombie & Fitch spokesman, most of the DVDs and videos will come from the private collection of the Board of Directors and some will come from suppliers in Thailand. The spokesman also said that A&F will be trading on the child slave trade exchange by August 2004.

:roll:

isn't that worse than AA?

sweet tea wrote: oh, and in my recollection, it does take slightly more than 10 seconds to exit a leotard and leggings, so you might need to up your banging ETA on those pictures, caseo.

Ok, where's caaahyoko? We need her to conduct an experiment for us!

I have to confess that I'm one of the least fashionable people I know. I have no idea what's in style at any given moment. I buy most of my clothes on ebay since I know the exact measurements of the stretch jeans and which t-shirts I like. My clothing style is mostly about comfort and how quickly I can get dressed. I haven't seen any of the Abercrombie and Fitch ads, I've only seen the AA ads online and on the back of the Onion. As for who wears AA clothing, I don't have a clue except for people here who said they wear them. But I do think that Dov Charney is one skanky motherfucker. Oh, and sweet tea, you have no idea how fast I can get out of my clothes when I have a good reason.

caseopele wrote: [quote=sweet tea]oh, and in my recollection, it does take slightly more than 10 seconds to exit a leotard and leggings, so you might need to up your banging ETA on those pictures, caseo.

Ok, where's caaahyoko? We need her to conduct an experiment for us!



I think I could get out in 10 seconds Because both can be pulled in the same direction. Its simple physics, my dear.

However--Its much more complicated if you are insane like me and wear leotard, tights, some sort of crazy shirt or jacket and high waisted skirt all at once. Basically, you have to get undressed to go to the bathroom.

Now try this while at a bar, WITHOUT any clothing touching the nasty-ass bathroom floor. Yes, I am that girl that makes you wait to the point of almost peeing on yourself.

sweet tea wrote:

i totally remember this from high school (well, not the bar part). nothing calms the anxious adolescent heart like knowing that you are actually completely naked behind the shuddering, barely-lockable stall door separating you from the popular crowd.

teehee. :oops:

I guess that's why, for awhile, they made those "bodysuits"/leotards with the snap open crotch.

caaahyoko wrote: [quote=sweet tea]

i totally remember this from high school (well, not the bar part). nothing calms the anxious adolescent heart like knowing that you are actually completely naked behind the shuddering, barely-lockable stall door separating you from the popular crowd.

teehee. :oops:

I guess that's why, for awhile, they made those "bodysuits"/leotards with the snap open crotch.

except the snap closure on the crotch is the most irritating thing ever to refasten! I could never get more than one or two done up and then would end up having to strip anyway to snap the thing back up and then crawl back in.