Rev. Jeremiah Wright: Obama's Mentor for 20 years
Subject: Rev. Jeremiah Wright: Obama's Mentor for 20 years

What a pathetic racist excuse of a man. This is who nobama has as his mentor. This "rev" married obama, baptized his kids, was inspiration for his book, and has been friends for 20 years. This "rev" is now working for obamas African American Religious Leadership Committee. obama's also donated over 20k to this guy.
Is this who you want for a President, someone who associates with this racist who refers to America as God Damn America? Who states we started the aids virus among other sickening foul mouth diatribes.
Don't forget obama's farrakhan association.
Here is some info on his church:
"It is critical now, however, that more understanding of this dynamic be circulated. People need to understand the unique nature of a large independent church pastor and his congregation. It is very different from the relationship that exists in more traditional denominational churches.
Jeremiah Wright is not simply a pastor who was assigned to Trinity United Church of Christ by a synod or diocese as the latest in a long line of such assignments. Jeremiah Wright is the TUCC. Or, more accurately, the TUCC is simply one of "Jeremiah Wright's ministries." This is how it works with these independent churches.
These churches exist for the sole purpose of spreading the pastor's specific ministry. If there is a market for such a ministry (and in Chicago there has been one), then the church will grow. Most of these churches, in fact, are founded by (and for) the pastor.
TUCC was not founded by Wright. But almost. He has pastored it from a membership of 87 to one now of over 6000. It is his doctrine, direction, interpretation and emphasis that is TUCC. Wright is TUCC and TUCC is Wright. Period.
And with this dynamic, being an active member and significant benefactor of such a church for 20 years is by natural extension an endorsement of the pastor's message. With one of these churches, if you do not buy into the pastor's specific direction, you go to another church. It is not at all like going to your family's 3rd generation Methodist Church and having varying degrees of agreements with the numerous pastors as they flowed through the pulpit.
Barack Obama sought out the message of Jeremiah Wright, joined and remained in and supported TUCC because of that message, and in fact named his book after a sermon of that message. He even used that message so that black voters in Chicago would not focus on the half of Obama that is white, and on his privileged Hawaiian education. To paraphrase the good pastor, he "was riding dirty" on that message.
In other words, he embraced Wright and TUCC's agenda to get his black street cred and to escape his "white half." Now, he's trying to divert attention away from his black street cred. And a little sober reminder here... he is doing this so he can occupy the Oval Office."
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Okay!
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there must be some mistake.
this is hillary's fault somehow. i'm gonna get to the bottom of this! -
talk about having a chip on your shoulder. Not sure Wright's even got a shoulder left.
Other than that, the post seems like a lot of sensational speculation to me. -
the post seems like a lot of sensational speculation to me.
what a shocker -
mr. met wrote:
When someone is providing info in quotes, but with zero citations or sources and a lot of opinions that read like an angry rant that wouldn't last 5 minutes on Wikipedia, I tend to take it with a grain of salt as big as the chip on Wright's shoulder.the post seems like a lot of sensational speculation to me.
what a shocker -
From http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/11/mccains_bob_jon.php
18 wrote: McCain's Bob Jones University?[/size]
November 22, 2005
Washington, DC - Despite criticizing President Bush for campaigning at Bob Jones University in the 2000 Presidential campaign, Arizona Republican Senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate John McCain will begin his Thanksgiving recess today in Alabama endorsing a candidate who has addressed, and even praised, a prominent white supremacist organization.
McCain is throwing his weight behind Alabama Lt. Governor candidate George Wallace Jr., a man who has given four speeches to the racist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), most recently in June 2005. [Southern Poverty Law Center, Intelligence Report, Summer 2005]
The CCC was created from the mailing list of the old White Citizens' Councils set up in the 1950s and 1960s to resist efforts to desegregate southern schools. The late former Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall once referred to the CCC as the "uptown Klan." According to its website, the CCC's mission is to "oppose all efforts to mix the races." [http://www.cofcc.org/manifest.htm]
Democratic National Committee Press Secretary Josh Earnest today called on Senator McCain to use his appearances in Alabama to condemn the racist beliefs of the CCC:
"In a sad commentary on the state of Republican presidential politics, Senator McCain has sacrificed his commitment to social justice and equality on the altar of his own political ambition. Senator McCain's endorsement of George Wallace Jr. without specifically denouncing his connection with the Council of Conservative Citizens is as wrong today President Bush's decision to exploit the bigotry and racism of Bob Jones University was during the 2000 Presidential campaign.
"Americans deserve better than Republican politicians with presidential ambitions who pander to racist organizations and their apologists. Senator McCain should use today's appearances to specifically denounce the racist views of the CCC and join Democrats in fighting to protect the rights and freedoms of all Americans."eggcream wrote: Is this who you want for a President, someone who associates with this racist...
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Wright sounds like a big racist and a problem for Obama.
He may be speaking from a place of pain and experience but he language is divisive and simply outdated. He sounds like an old angry man and not someone who "loves" his enemies. This is not 1849 Rev. Wright.
Don't get me started....
This is another example of the older (black) generation getting in the way of the newer generation. Obama needs to reject and denounce ALL hate speech and people he associates with who act like fools. He also needs to find himself a new church.
And WTF is all of this doing in a "church" anyway?
It sounded more a political speech.
Obama, you can't have it both ways. -
Amen.
Holy freakin' loose cannon, Batman. -
izisharp wrote: [quote=mr. met]
When someone is providing info in quotes, but with zero citations or sources and a lot of opinions that read like an angry rant that wouldn't last 5 minutes on Wikipedia, I tend to take it with a grain of salt as big as the chip on Wright's shoulder.the post seems like a lot of sensational speculation to me.
what a shocker
It's info about his church, I really don't care how you take it. If you really wanted a source which I left out, google it. -
This is laughable at best. First of all this article is 3 years old. Second, is McCain involved with this organization, does he have a 20 year relationship with this organization? Third the dnc has no problem with Robert KKK Byrd and finally when will the dnc ask obama to denounce this guy. When pigs fly perhaps.
Carnivore wrote: From http://www.democrats.org/a/2005/11/mccains_bob_jon.php
[quote=18]McCain's Bob Jones University?[/size]
November 22, 2005
Washington, DC - Despite criticizing President Bush for campaigning at Bob Jones University in the 2000 Presidential campaign, Arizona Republican Senator and potential 2008 presidential candidate John McCain will begin his Thanksgiving recess today in Alabama endorsing a candidate who has addressed, and even praised, a prominent white supremacist organization.
McCain is throwing his weight behind Alabama Lt. Governor candidate George Wallace Jr., a man who has given four speeches to the racist Council of Conservative Citizens (CCC), most recently in June 2005. [Southern Poverty Law Center, Intelligence Report, Summer 2005]
The CCC was created from the mailing list of the old White Citizens' Councils set up in the 1950s and 1960s to resist efforts to desegregate southern schools. The late former Supreme Court Justice Thurgood Marshall once referred to the CCC as the "uptown Klan." According to its website, the CCC's mission is to "oppose all efforts to mix the races." [http://www.cofcc.org/manifest.htm]
Democratic National Committee Press Secretary Josh Earnest today called on Senator McCain to use his appearances in Alabama to condemn the racist beliefs of the CCC:
"In a sad commentary on the state of Republican presidential politics, Senator McCain has sacrificed his commitment to social justice and equality on the altar of his own political ambition. Senator McCain's endorsement of George Wallace Jr. without specifically denouncing his connection with the Council of Conservative Citizens is as wrong today President Bush's decision to exploit the bigotry and racism of Bob Jones University was during the 2000 Presidential campaign.
"Americans deserve better than Republican politicians with presidential ambitions who pander to racist organizations and their apologists. Senator McCain should use today's appearances to specifically denounce the racist views of the CCC and join Democrats in fighting to protect the rights and freedoms of all Americans."eggcream wrote: Is this who you want for a President, someone who associates with this racist...
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Barack turns blogger (on the subject):
On My Faith and My ChurchBarack Obama wrote: "vehemently disagree and strongly condemn"..."categorically denounce"..."words that degrade individuals have no place in our public dialogue"..."so contrary to my own life and beliefs"..."Rev. Wright...has never been my political advisor; he's been my pastor"....
Yadda yadda, fine.
Oh, and regarding the following:eggcream wrote: This is laughable at best. First of all this article is 3 years old.
fyi...strong condemnation of Wright's political views is old news:Barack Obama wrote: When these statements first came to my attention, it was at the beginning of my presidential campaign. I made it clear at the time that I strongly condemned his comments.
That guy (Wright) definitely represents a decades-old bygone era of bootstraps South Side Chicago just as Ferraro represents a bygone era of an outdated wave of feminism that seeks to perpetuate the role of women as victims, instead of as equals or outright leaders.
Looks like Obama did the right thing by coming right out (again, as his did a year ago re: Wright) and condemning what are clearly inappropriate and damaging social and political views, even in spite of having a decades long relationship with Wright on a religious basis.
No soft-pedaling or weaseling out of it due to long relationship, he outright condemned it up front.
Guessing that McCain will do same for a spiritual advisor of his that just called for the eradication of Islam as a false religion.
Ouch, oops, another wingnut.
Fine, can't always account for all the nutters out there. This occasionally and regrettably comes up among the vast numbers of campaign workers, too (within all campaigns, as we have seen).
What's key is to outright condemn such statements as they are uttered and have the courage to defend one's beliefs in an immediate and substantive manner, regardless of one's relationship with who said them.
Do that, and the public may take them at their word and move on (at least until any point when/if any actual new evidence points to the contrary).
Waffling, hemming and hawing and general avoidance merely causes more doubts among the general public. And that goes straight to the issues of trust and ambition (of the Caesar variety). -
If you want dirt on Clinton, Obama, or McCain and have a shovel, all you have to do is dig.
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Just keep that shovel away from the rest of us... (hah)
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eggcream wrote: This is laughable at best. First of all this article is 3 years old. Second, is McCain involved with this organization, does he have a 20 year relationship with this organization?
Naive loyalty, or a sell-out. Vote 2008. -
this dude is not Obama's mentor, ESPECIALLY about social or political issues, and Obama has rejected all of his divisive, extremist proclamations, and he was fired from his ceremonial role on the campaign.
I care more about Hillary's vote for the Iraq War or McCain's embrace of the psychotic "Rev." Hagee, than I do about Obama's pastor making ugly and/or false proclamations about race in America.
I mean really? Is this really more important than Hillary getting us involved in the biggest foreign policy blunder in American history? This war is going to cost three trillion dollars (literally) and we're talking about Obama's pastor?
Give me a break. -
Has anyone heard from Don Imus?
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this is just another reason to keep a safe distance away from religious leaders, they say the darnedest things.
the kerfuffle over this 'mentor' will fade once mccain's post-captivity psych evaluation is leaked. -
Dear Baby Boomers and civil rights movement survivors,
Please hurry up and go away. Please.
You had your time and in the beginning, you did much to advance causes.
But now your outdated rhetoric, tired victimization speeches and divisive behavior are just, well, boring. It is time to pass the leadership role on to a new generation in touch with the real current issues in America and global society.
America created Barrack Obama.
He couldn't and doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
But for America, there would be no Barrack.
I am glad to see Obama denounce the comments, but he needs to really be the voice of his own campaign again and respond quicker to this type of crap. More importantly, he needs to stay away from the Rev. Wright's of the world. Seriously, old people, we love you and all that you have done, but just go away and let the new generation handle the heavy lifting from here on out. It's time. -
Thanks for the "friendly" admonition.
You don't mind if I stay concerned about white America having no clue at all to black culture or the role that black churches play in that culture, do you?.
Or if I keep being concerned that the economy is going down the toilet faster than you can say "current issues," do you?
And, you don't mind if I stay concerned about, and involved in, the strange phenomena that young people do not, and did, vote until Obama came along, do you?
And you don't mind if I stay involved in global women's rights and empowerment, and stay involved against human and sex slave trafficking, do you? And stay in involved in domestic and global human rights issues where women and child are always the victims, do you?
I'll keep on doing that if you don't mind, while you figure out the next steps. And thanks for chipping in.
If I were going to make a "friendly" admonition on this forum, or any other forum, I would ask that we hear less from white males - period. -
SevenOneEighty wrote: Dear Baby Boomers and civil rights movement survivors,
Please hurry up and go away. Please.
You had your time and in the beginning, you did much to advance causes.
But now your outdated rhetoric, tired victimization speeches and divisive behavior are just, well, boring. It is time to pass the leadership role on to a new generation in touch with the real current issues in America and global society.
America created Barrack Obama.
He couldn't and doesn't exist anywhere else in the world.
But for America, there would be no Barrack.
I am glad to see Obama denounce the comments, but he needs to really be the voice of his own campaign again and respond quicker to this type of crap. More importantly, he needs to stay away from the Rev. Wright's of the world. Seriously, old people, we love you and all that you have done, but just go away and let the new generation handle the heavy lifting from here on out. It's time.
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Old Folks Go Away?
Where did you send your parents? -
Old Folks Go Away?
To a nice safe place where they have no influence over current government policies: retirement.
Where did you send your parents?
This is where Rev. Wright is right now.
And the world is better of because of it. -
SevenOneEighty wrote:
**************************Old Folks Go Away?
To a nice safe place where they have no influence over current government policies: retirement.
Where did you send your parents?
This is where Rev. Wright is right now.
And the world is better of because of it.
Sounds like Germany 1939 -
Hamilton wrote: [quote=SevenOneEighty]
**************************Old Folks Go Away?
To a nice safe place where they have no influence over current government policies: retirement.
Where did you send your parents?
This is where Rev. Wright is right now.
And the world is better of because of it.
Sounds like Germany 1939
Retirement = Germany 1939?
Dude, they're playing golf all day, going to the beach and eating dinner at 4:30pm. I'm Not sure I understand the connection...
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SevenOneEighty wrote: [quote=Hamilton][quote=SevenOneEighty]
**************************Old Folks Go Away?
To a nice safe place where they have no influence over current government policies: retirement.
Where did you send your parents?
This is where Rev. Wright is right now.
And the world is better of because of it.
Sounds like Germany 1939
Retirement = Germany 1939?
Dude, they're playing golf all day, going to the beach and eating dinner at 4:30pm. I'm Not sure I understand the connection...
:roll:
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Germany 1939 was directed at your attitude that old people have no value and should disappear...
And Dude where are your parents in Florida ,where their vote may not count, if so you got your wish. -
Um, no one is suggesting they be killed or quarantined.
They just need to stop using their OLD irrelevant political rhetoric to control the political discussion and keeping people in the PAST as victims.
I am suggesting that if you are still thinking the KKK and slavery is the biggest problem for black people (Rev. Wright), you may not be up on current events enough to control policy; You are out of touch. it is hard to hear but it is time to MOVE ON and forward.
Enough with the war stories, it's not 1958 anymore and the conversation has changed. Globalization, the economy, outsourcing, education and other issue are more influential than slavery and the KKK in 2008. Rev. Right, thank you for seeing the light, understanding , taking good advice of smart people and retiring to prevent further damage.Jessie Jackson should follow his lead as well. Let the Barracks of the world take the lead, you had your time, this is a new chapter. We'll go to you if we need advice, we've got your number.
When it comes to political leadership today the Rev. Wrights, Jacksons and others like them of the world have been proven incapable of grasping modernity. Time to Go Away, Retire, have fun and enjoy, you've earned it. Your own outdated attitude has made you irrelevant to the world discussion.
But vote all you want.
Yup, we've moved on.
( No, they are not in Florida but Florida should have followed the established rules and they would have had a vote) -
I've always viewed Jackson as more of an opportunist then a true leader.
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From Columbia Journalism Review:
18 wrote: The McCain-Hagee Connection[/size]
Why is the press ignoring this hate-monger?
By Zachary Roth Fri 7 Mar 2008 02:27 PM
More than a week after John McCain’s endorsement by the anti-Catholic, anti-Semitic pastor John Hagee, the media continues to give the GOP nominee a free pass.
Consider the following pronouncements by Hagee, the man who McCain proudly introduced as an ally last week.
On Jews:
It was the disobedience and rebellion of the Jews, God’s chosen people, to their covenantal responsibility to serve only the one true God, Jehovah, that gave rise to the opposition and persecution that they experienced beginning in Canaan and continuing to this very day.
And:
How utterly repulsive, insulting, and heartbreaking to God for his chosen people to credit idols with bringing blessings he had showered upon the chosen people. Their own rebellion had birthed the seed of anti-Semitism that would arise and bring destruction to them for centuries to come.
On gays:
All hurricanes are acts of God, because God controls the heavens. I believe that New Orleans had a level of sin that was offensive to God, and they are — were recipients of the judgment of God for that. The newspaper carried the story in our local area that was not carried nationally that there was to be a homosexual parade there on the Monday that the Katrina came. And the promise of that parade was that it was going to reach a level of sexuality never demonstrated before in any of the other Gay Pride parades. So I believe that the judgment of God is a very real thing. I know that there are people who demur from that, but I believe that the Bible teaches that when you violate the law of God, that God brings punishment sometimes before the day of judgment. And I believe that the Hurricane Katrina was, in fact, the judgment of God against the city of New Orleans.
Hagee, of course, is also a virulent anti-Catholic, who has suggested that the pope is the anti-Christ, and that Adolf Hitler’s anti-Semitism was the result of being educated at a Catholic school.
One would think that when a leading presidential candidate proudly touts the support of such a figure, the issue would receive close scrutiny from the press. But last week, once McCain assured reporters that, just because Hagee was endorsing him, it didn’t mean he agreed with everything Hagee said, the mainstream media essentially let the matter drop. Chalk another up for the Straight-Talking candidate.
That’s all the more remarkable given the high-profile grilling Barack Obama has received on the subject of Louis Farrakhan. In a recent Democratic debate, Tim Russert asked Obama to reject Farrakhan’s support. And in January, Washington Post columnist Richard Cohen drew attention to the fact that a magazine controlled by Obama’s pastor had given an award to the Nation of Islam founder.
But so far, neither Russert nor anyone else at NBC News has seen fit to press McCain on the subject, and Cohen hasn’t chosen to write about it. And remember, Obama did nothing to solicit Farrakhan’s support, while McCain actively sought Hagee’s and appeared on stage with him.
We’ve asked both NBC News and Cohen whether they plan to, given their concern about Obama’s Farrakhan “ties,” and will let you know what we hear. -
It's not Drudge milking it, it's the racist Obama and his minions trying to divert his bad publicity, they leaked this picture that means squat.
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