Any opinions on Hillarys War Story
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great, here we go...
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David Brooks wrote a great opinion piece in the Times yesterday http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/opinion/25brooks.html?_r=1&oref=sloginhttp://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/25/opinion/25brooks.html?_r=1&oref=sloginabout how Hillary will endanger the Democrats' chances of winning in November, rather than gracefully concede defeat, because she has become a totally political creature (my term, nor did he use the term, "monster"!), and cannot accept defeat.
Her claim about coming under fire in Bosnia seems to me to be a perfect example of a desperation tactic (as are her campaign's various attempts to smear Obama).
It's unfortunate, because the campaign seems to be bringing out the worst in an otherwise admirable lady. -
Normally I don't like Brooks, but he's absolutely right that Hillary is hanging on for that pathetic 5% chance of winning, and in the process she'll help the Dems lose the election.
She's an amazing candidate. I think if Bush wasn't the worst president in history (thus inspiring the electorate to want someone as 'new' as possible) she probably could have won the entire election in a cake walk. But it didn't break that way, and for the good of the country she should concede right now.
The best thing for every democrat besides Hillary and her staffers is for her to concede. But it's never going to happen. -
I tried to get to this post earlier, but was dodging sniper fire on 8th Avenue - had to run with my head down all the way to my keyboard.
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I you're lying. I'm not going to vote for you.
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Hilary as President?
To quote Pete Townshend "Meet the new boss. Same as the old boss."
Another politcal animal who will take cronyism to new heights. -
when she mentioned sniper fire I was surprised as I didn't think Bill owned a rifle.
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i thought it was pretty obvious that the sniper fire was metaphorical
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Hmm,I saw it as mythical
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Hillary and Bill for that matter are pathological liars so I don't see why anyone is surprised. Since they're not the darlings of the press anymore, Obama has that spot, anything they say is up for debate. CBS has had this video since they went on the trip w/Hillary.
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WAIT...IT IS TRUE!
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Subject: Ramboette
sly stallone , looks like you've been replaced. -
does this mean Hillary confronts the controversy with a stirring speech on exaggeration or lying in America? "I can no more disown that remark than I can disown my own profession"
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Livetotravel wrote: I tried to get to this post earlier, but was dodging sniper fire on 8th Avenue - had to run with my head down all the way to my keyboard.
Beloved Park Slope resident and comedian Chris Rock said you were scrambling to Pino's for a slice or two. -
eggcream wrote: Hillary and Bill for that matter are pathological liars so I don't see why anyone is surprised. Since they're not the darlings of the press anymore, Obama has that spot, anything they say is up for debate. CBS has had this video since they went on the trip w/Hillary.
Okay! -
There is more gunfire in my neighborhood on an average Saturday night than what was going on during GI Hillary's Bosnian visit.
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Her latest story is that she "mispoke" because she was sleep-deprived. This from the person that's running on being the one you want answering the phone at 3 am?!
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Idlewild wrote: [quote=Livetotravel]I tried to get to this post earlier, but was dodging sniper fire on 8th Avenue - had to run with my head down all the way to my keyboard.
Beloved Park Slope resident and comedian Chris Rock said you were scrambling to Pino's for a slice or two.
If I'm the first to let you know this, I apologize, and please don't shot the messenger....but, Chris, like all good Park Slopers with 2.? kids, moved to a permanent residence in New Jersey, in his case, Alpine. -
Carnivore wrote: Her latest story is that she "mispoke" because she was sleep-deprived. This from the person that's running on being the one you want answering the phone at 3 am?!
You'll love this - from Roger Cohen...
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/03/27/opinion/27Cohen.html?ref=opinion -
Subject: Wright & wrong
Yeah, she has high standards, she stated she would not have Rev. Wright as her Pastor.
Why would she when she and Bill used Jesse [Hymie town] Jackson as a spiritual advisor. -
She has said it 4 times in 4 months and the clips will be making their way to youtube. Fox News has already started up with them:
http://www.americablog.com/2008/03/hillary-spokesman-now-says-on-one.htmlTuesday, March 25, 2008
Hillary spokesman now says "on one occasion she misspoke" about Bosnia - no, she said it four times over as many months
by John Aravosis (DC) · 3/25/2008 09:27:00 AM ET · Link
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Clinton spokesman Howard Wolfson told reporters yesterday that Hillary only misspoke "on one occasion" when she told voters that she arrived in Bosnia in 1996 under sniper fire and had to run for cover after the opening ceremony was canceled because of the gunfire. That's a flat-out lie. Hillary made similar claims at least four times since last December. And what's worse, her campaign repeatedly defended the "misspoken" comments, and even sent surrogates out to defend them, claiming they were true. Rather than admitting that Hillary screwed up, and puffed up her resume, the campaign is now choosing to lie to us about facts we already know.
Last night, Joe posted the Keith Olbermann segment about Hillary's false claims. Hillary spokesman Howard Wolfson claimed the following yesterday, per Olbermann: "It's possible she misspoke." Possible? Did she also misspeak the four other times she claimed the exact same story?
- In Dubuque, Iowa in December Hillary claimed that Bosnia was too dangerous for the president and that she ran across the tarmac.
- In late February, Hillary claimed during the White House 3 am phone ad roll-out that sniper fire forced the airport ceremony inside.
- In a March 17, 2008 press conference Hillary repeated the claims.
- In her March 17, 2008 prepared remarks - PREPARED remarks, i.e., these remarks were intentional - she said the same thing.
Let's revisit the latest details, per Olbermann:
Hillary's spokesman Howard Wolfson is now saying she was on the front lines by landing at the airport. As Olbermann noted, there was an 8 year old girl with flowers on those front lines, the US military commander in charge at the time said there was no threat of enemy fire, and Hillary herself stopped and took photos with military personnel. These were the front lines, but Hillary was doing photo opps with soldiers and 8 year old girls?
Here is Hillary's latest explanation, per yesterday:
Hillary: "I was also told that the greeting ceremony had been moved away from the tarmac but there was this 8 year old girl and I can't rush by her, I have to at least greet her, so I took her stuff and then I left."
Again, bull. There are photos and videos of Hillary and Chelsea posing with troops for photos on the tarmac. It was too dangerous for Hillary to linger any longer than a quick hug with a kid but the troops then put the president's wife's and daughter's lives at risk by posing for glamor shots? Then there's this:
Hillary yesterday: "I say a lot of things -- millions of words a day -- so if I misspoke, that was jsut a misstatement." -
- In Dubuque, Iowa in December Hillary claimed that Bosnia was too dangerous for the president and that she ran across the tarmac.
ok, this is pretty funny
- In late February, Hillary claimed during the White House 3 am phone ad roll-out that sniper fire forced the airport ceremony inside.
- In a March 17, 2008 press conference Hillary repeated the claims.
- In her March 17, 2008 prepared remarks - PREPARED remarks, i.e., these remarks were intentional - she said the same thing. -
At the time of the Democratic primary I was torn between Obama & Clinton...I wound up voting for Clinton, but I would have been fine with whoever won the primary.
At this point, I have to say that Hillary should just drop out...as the NYT op-ed pieces stated, she will be the Ralph Nader of this election. She does not have the popular vote (and from what I read she has no chance of getting it at this point).
While there's all this animosity going on between Clinton & Obama, McCain is alreay running for President. Leave it to the Democrats to screw up what should have been their easiest election to win ever! -
Subject: The Family that lies together stays togetherr
It's been rumored Tina Fey is offering the Clintons a spot on Saturday Night Live, a part they were born to play,it will be based on the Jon Lovits character The Pathological Liar.
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