Obama-Clinton/ Clinton-Obama ticket...?

carnivore · March 2008

alafairnadia wrote: [quote=Carnivore]This.

[quote=jeffrey]Btw, he totally delivered (read: pwned), and in my opinion still kept things on the level of issues and actual statements made instead of going dirty with intentionally damning, mere innuendo.

yeah, in his press releases and speeches. gosh! no one reads what I say, eh?
I think that in this day and age, it's completely reasonable for a campaign to use every available medium to get their message out. To criticize a legitimate point because of the medium doesn't make any sense, no matter how many times you repeat it. And to somehow try to make this a Rove/Starr thing is just ridiculous.

alafairnadia · March 2008

Carnivore wrote: [quote=alafairnadia][quote=Carnivore]This.

[quote=jeffrey]Btw, he totally delivered (read: pwned), and in my opinion still kept things on the level of issues and actual statements made instead of going dirty with intentionally damning, mere innuendo.

yeah, in his press releases and speeches. gosh! no one reads what I say, eh?
I think that in this day and age, it's completely reasonable for a campaign to use every available medium to get their message out. To criticize a legitimate point because of the medium doesn't make any sense, no matter how many times you repeat it. And to somehow try to make this a Rove/Starr thing is just ridiculous.

it's tonal. that's it.

carnivore · March 2008

alafairnadia wrote: it's tonal. that's it.

It's not like he twittered "I'm leading the race, so STFU with the VP shit already!"

alafairnadia · March 2008

Carnivore wrote: [quote=alafairnadia]it's tonal. that's it.

It's not like he twittered "I'm leading the race, so STFU with the VP shit already!"

if he'd said "I'm discussing this issue now! check out my website! get out the vote!" I'd have been fine. "In Columbus,MS & wondering how somebody who's in second place is offering the vice presidency to the person who's in first place. Vote Tues!" is tonally completely different - and I agree with him in message, so this has nothing to do with my clinton support. it's scrappy and obnoxious and really? I don't want to hear it. it makes me like him less and respect him less.

agree or not, last post on the subject. sadly, work is making demands on my time again. bastards.

carnivore · March 2008

alafairnadia wrote: if he'd said "I'm discussing this issue now! check out my website! get out the vote!" I'd have been fine. "In Columbus,MS & wondering how somebody who's in second place is offering the vice presidency to the person who's in first place. Vote Tues!" is tonally completely different - and I agree with him in message, so this has nothing to do with my clinton support. it's scrappy and obnoxious and really? I don't want to hear it. it makes me like him less and respect him less.

agree or not, last post on the subject. sadly, work is making demands on my time again. bastards.

OK, but invoking Rove and Starr when you're saying "I agree with his legitimate point but I didn't like his tone" is kind of disingenuous. This message was certainly not in the same vein as "as far as I know, Obama isn't a Muslim."

lucy · March 2008

Good for Obama for responding as such:

"COLUMBUS, Mississippi (Reuters) - Barack Obama on Monday ridiculed rival Hillary Clinton's repeated hints she would take him for the No. 2 spot on her presidential ticket, accusing her of playing political games in their hard-fought Democratic nominating race.

Obama, campaigning in Mississippi ahead of the state's contest on Tuesday, said he has won more states than Clinton and is leading in delegates who will decide the Democratic candidate to face Republican John McCain in November.

"I don't know how somebody who is in second place is offering the vice presidency to somebody who is in first place," Obama, an Illinois senator, told supporters. The crowd booed when he mentioned Hillary's idea."

hamilton · March 2008

This is all most as funny as the Abbot and Costello bit on "Who's on First"

There's no way Bill Clinton wants Hillary to win,It will cut into his illegal activities that has reaped him a fortune.

alafairnadia · March 2008

Carnivore wrote: OK, but invoking Rove and Starr when you're saying "I agree with his legitimate point but I didn't like his tone" is kind of disingenuous. This message was certainly not in the same vein as "as far as I know, Obama isn't a Muslim."

but I also agree with the point that "as far as I know, Obama isn't a Muslim." the whole Rove/Starr book isn't about lying as much as it is about choosing the proper words and the proper tone to say something truthful and end up implying something like "this lady is a dumbass" or "he might be Muslim", even if those aren't the words coming out of your mouth/the text typed into whatever messenger you desire. that's a skill no dem has successfully mastered, mostly, I think, because they're not evil enough to begin with and/or lack the Slytherin nature required to make that shit work. for every 10 times Clinton takes a shot, she fails 9 times to make a successful hit. so far, Obama hasn't taken many shots, but he's warming up. he just needs to figure out how to say aloud "McCain is a war hero" and have it come out sounding like "too bad he's a senile old fuck who hates everyone." I wish him luck.

daver · March 2008

alafairnadia wrote: he just needs to figure out how to say aloud "McCain is a war hero" and have it come out sounding like "too bad he's a senile old fuck who hates everyone." I wish him luck.

How do I give stars! Bring them back!

daver · March 2008

Glenn Beck has a picture up of what a Clinton/Obama ticket would look like...

alafairnadia · March 2008

daver wrote: Glenn Beck has a picture up of what a Clinton/Obama ticket would look like...

more attractive than what we've got now or could get with mccain. I'd vote for the trans-mashup.

daver · March 2008

From the useless speculation department...

Could there be an Obama-Bloomberg ticket?

Obama joked that he's seeking a steak dinner. But political tongues were wagging about a potential ticket mate -- an idea Bloomberg has dismissed before.

"Nobody is going to ask me to run as vice president," he said in February.

http://www.cnn.com/2008/POLITICS/03/27/obama.bloomberg/index.html

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