Ruckus at Smiling Pizza?

Between 3:00-4:00 PM, that is the worst corner in the neighborhood.

The same crap goes on at PPW and Bartel Prichard Sq. where the morons from Bishop Ford block store fronts and clump together making it impossible to pass.

kosherdave wrote:
I asked one of the cops what happened, apparently there was a big teen-fight scheduled for that corner around 3, and it got way out of control.

Cool, like 3 O'Clock High. Remember that movie?

i wonder if when kids schedule fights now they pull out their iPhones or PDA's and check their schedules first?

metalnyc wrote: [quote=kosherdave]
I asked one of the cops what happened, apparently there was a big teen-fight scheduled for that corner around 3, and it got way out of control.

Cool, like 3 O'Clock High. Remember that movie?

i wonder if when kids schedule fights now they pull out their iPhones or PDA's and check their schedules first?


hahahaha I wonder if they announce it on their blogs.

Duffy'sSis wrote:
From what I understand, the situation at John Jay is actually better now then it was in the 80s and 90s. I can't even imagine what that must have been like.

I can remember it. There were a lot of felons in the school and many merchants locked their doors 3:00. But that is urban living I guess.

so many pizza places in the neighborhood, i forget where this one is -- corner of 7th ave and 9th street? how did the scene compare to the nightly melee outside of pino's?

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Yesterday was another brawl on 7th and 9th st. There were masses of teenagers who literally surged across the avenue when the fight continued there. The girls were saying, "Naw, you're missing it!! It's great!!" They were excited and giggling and following the action. Those young men were going at it like you wouldn't believe. Fists flying,blood, snot, torn t shirts, N-this, N-that, and I just caught that just in the minute I was stopped by the swarm. They were jumping on the hood of my car because I was in the way. Traffic was stopped, it was sooo scary.

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The Chipster wrote: Yesterday was another brawl on 7th and 9th st. There were masses of teenagers who literally surged across the avenue when the fight continued there. The girls were saying, "Naw, you're missing it!! It's great!!" They were excited and giggling and following the action. Those young men were going at it like you wouldn't believe. Fists flying,blood, snot, torn t shirts, N-this, N-that, and I just caught that just in the minute I was stopped by the swarm. They were jumping on the hood of my car because I was in the way. Traffic was stopped, it was sooo scary.

reminds me of my school days. after school fights almost every other week.

The Chipster wrote: That school is much worse now than it was in the 70's and 80's !! I've taught, and the level of disrespect shown toward authority has grown, while our ways of dealing with it have shrunk. "I'll sue you!" "I have my rights!!" Ignorance coupled with defiance, backed up by a p.c. agenda. Poison.
Maybe John Jay was better when its highest truancy rate kept some of the troublemakers out of school. Now, between, yes, cell phoned meet-ups, gossip, cell phone sex pics and vids, you tube, etc..what chance does any kid have to emerge from any high school intact these days?

That sucks be cause that school was REALLY BAD in the 80's.

filmlover44 wrote: a) Kids are not allowed to use cell phones in class/school? My daughters phone was removed the second time that she had it on in class and I was called by the police and warned that they would keep it the next time that it happened.

Just curious.....why does your daughter have her phone on in class, and why didn't she follow the rules after being caught the first time?

I can't imagine teaching kids and having them texting, etc. during class.


As for the Smiling Incident(s), sadly I can imagine it all too clearly. When kids get out of class in the afternoon and hit the pizza places and subways, I'd rather stay in the house.

Sheesh, nobody has kicked in yet to say how uptight everybody is and how teen rioting is part of the city's vibrant cultural tapestry and should be reveled in? And move to the suburbs, etc. etc.?

Weird.

Drano wrote: Sheesh, nobody has kicked in yet to say how uptight everybody is and how teen rioting is part of the city's vibrant cultural tapestry and should be reveled in? And move to the suburbs, etc. etc.?

Weird.

They act like assholes in the suburbs too.

stacey wrote:
I went there from 82-86 and it was a rough school then. I don't know about felons but I don't remember any merchants locking their doors - hell the liquor store on 7th made lots of money off the students there. That being said I do remember LOTS of fights like this after school but it was mostly Park Slope kids against Sunset Park kids. Girls were the worst though and you always had to be prepared for a girl with a razor blade. I learned early to carry a small jar of Vaseline in my bag to be slathered on my face if I got into a fight. A lot of the problems were students letting in people who didn't go to the school. At the end there they installed magnetic doors so students couldn't get out through the side entrances the could only leave through the front entrance.

Because it becomes a mob mentality I highly suggest next you see it just go in the opposite direction - you DO NOT want to get in the middle of this type of wilding.

By far the worst fight I've ever seen was two John Jay girls in the 80's. One of the girls was smacking the other's head against one of the picket fences of the houses next to the bus stop on the northwest corner of 9th St and 8th Ave.

There was blood everywhere, it looked like something out of pro wrestling, and the other John Jay kids standing there were cheering it on... unbelievable.

I think the cell phone thing deserves its own thread. I'll save my rants for that.. :twisted:

Drano wrote: [quote=Carmen]Just to chime in, I'm from NC and I once saw a chick throw another girl down a flight of concrete outdoor steps and then literally curb-stomp her, breaking her jaw and half of her face at lunchtime on my highschool campus. This was about 10 years ago.

So, ya know, violence happens everywhere. We were not allowed to have cell phones, ftr...

Wow. I gotta tell you, if somebody did that to my kid I wouldn't rest until they were dead. I'd probably take out the parents too, seeing as I'd be headed for the can.

Fights were pretty chronic in my high school, but they were relatively mundane affairs of the punchpunch bleedbleed variety where everyone was (usually) friends afterward. And hanging around in town making an ass out of yourself was pretty much out of the question when everybody knew where you lived.

I grew up going to a pretty low-income school, we had a lot of "gang" affiliated fights (I put it in quotes because none of them were really affiliated with gangs, they kind of used that excuse to beat the shit out of eachother.) It was not unusual for kids to be taken away from fights in ambulances and a few kids had been beaten with weapons by the time I graduated (baseball bats, one kid stabbed another with some of the tools from the bio lab, etc.)
We didn't have metal detectors which I thought was weird. the school was really overcrowded, constructed for a capacity of 1500 and, when I graduated, we had over 2700 students there in no less than 11 trailers. When the bell rang the halls were so packed even I felt like stabbing someone...a lot of the fights I saw were a result of someone bumping into someone else in the hall and then it just escalated from there. Angry, poor kids confined to a prison-like cell of a school carrying 60 lbs worth of books because we had no lockers seems to logically result in a bit of tension.