Dog with food allergies
Anyone have a recipe they like for homemade dog food? My pooch has developed a pretty severe allergy to meats of all sorts (poor guy!). After $1.5k at Animal Kind and another $650 at a dermatologist in Manhattan we figured out his constant rashes were allergic reactions to food. Yikes.
He's been on a homemade vet-prescribed regimen of pinto beans, mixed veggies, peanut oil, apples, and yams for about 10 weeks now, but I'd really like to add some other foods to the repetoire without resorting to the processed "prescription dog food" sold by the vets. Any thoughts?
He's been on a homemade vet-prescribed regimen of pinto beans, mixed veggies, peanut oil, apples, and yams for about 10 weeks now, but I'd really like to add some other foods to the repetoire without resorting to the processed "prescription dog food" sold by the vets. Any thoughts?
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What exactly can't he have. I have a dog that seriously lived off of beans/rice/eggs on a tortilla. He ate breakfast with us everyday as a kid.
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What brand was he eating before? I give my cats Wysong Au Jus. Pure meat with no carbs at all. Top it with supplement and they're in great shape.I'm gonna schill for them this once: http://www.wysong.net
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Subject: duck?
Do the vets suspect that the protein is the problem, or the grain, or something else? Does he like the pinto beans, mixed veggies, peanut oil, apples, and yams concoction? It sounds... Interesting!
We were trying a duck-and-green-pea diet for our cat because of an auto-immune problem that they thought might be from an allergy to the protein in his regular cat food. They wanted us to try a novel protein, something other than chicken or fish.
I decided to cook a duck, so that the cat could have some "wet food" as well as the dry from the vet (which he didn't like). He seemed very interested while I was cooking the duck, and happily ate some off my fingers. But then he decided he didn't want any from the plate, even if I warmed it up. :roll:
The point is, I have some duck-cubes (I boiled the duck, skin and fat removed, then de-boned, shredded and cut into bits, and froze it in ice cube trays) and you are welcome to them if you would like to try duck. There's nothing added, just duck and water cooked up. I'm a vegetarian so I'm not going to use them... Our vet also suggested trying veal as an alternative protein. -
Wow, Violet, what a generous offer! I'd love to see if the duck worked for him. The vet says it's an animal protein, and we've been doing an elimination diet to determine what it is. The only animal proteins we have left to try are veal and duck. Chicken was no good, beef was no good, fish was no good, it's been quite a trial.
He loves the pinto bean/veggie/yam/rice/peanut oil he's eating now, but he's lost weight on this diet and I'd really like to add something to it to get him back up to his normal weight. He seems happy and he adores apples, so at least it hasn't been too hard getting him off the dog food. I was afraid he'd turn his nose up when he stopped getting dog biscuits and dry food, but apples are like his doggie crack. Carrots, too. He's probably going to end up being a very happy vegeterian dog.
He was eating Canidae before. He loved it, but it made him sick.
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After $1.5k at Animal Kind and another $650 at a dermatologist in Manhattan we figured out his constant rashes were allergic reactions to food. Yikes.
I've spent triple that trying to find the source of my dog's allergies and was told that there is no way to determine if it's food. Did they do a specific test? My sweetie is currently on a vaccine that is costing $200 per vial so I'm definitely curious if it's just her food and we're missing a trick... -
Totally impossible for a carnivorous animal to be allergic to meat.
Have you tried feeding your dog straight hamburger or fresh meat?
Canned dog food is full of wheat and soy protein as filler.
One thing can be certain - your vet is a quack. Carnivorous animals cannot possibly digest food with large amounts of fiber, ie legumes of all types. No mammal can digest them really. Plant fiber is decomposed by bacteria into sugar and a variety of gases. Some mammals, like horses and cows, have evolved such that they have large or multiple stomachs to regulate the gas pressure that results from the bacterial decomposition of fiber. Dogs however have very small stomachs as meat is directly broken down by their digestive system without the use of bacteria.
What does this mean? Feeding your dog beans will at minimum cause your dog serious discomfort and excessive flatulence, and at worst - death if there is ever a blockage and you don't puncture the stomach in time. -
Our cat has some sort of an allergy problem. The area around his mouth swells up, and the skin around his lips dry up and flake off. The vet shoots him with some sort of steroid and he is on the IVD duck and green pea diet--to no avail.We know it is time for a second opinion.Who is the very best cat doctor in all of Brooklyn and the other three counties on Long Island? Or anywhere within reason (excluding Manhattan) for that matter.Any help is appreciated. We love the little critter and hate to see him suffer.
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ninemonthsout wrote:
Sorry, I'm late responding to this. I was busy getting married and all the hullabaloo surrounding the recent nuptuals sucked up all my message board time.After $1.5k at Animal Kind and another $650 at a dermatologist in Manhattan we figured out his constant rashes were allergic reactions to food. Yikes.
I've spent triple that trying to find the source of my dog's allergies and was told that there is no way to determine if it's food. Did they do a specific test? My sweetie is currently on a vaccine that is costing $200 per vial so I'm definitely curious if it's just her food and we're missing a trick...
There are no reliable tests for allergies in animals. I was specifically told by the derm that the tests/vaccines some labs will offer are just a way to make a buck. The only reliable way to figure out what your furball's allergic to is to do an elimination diet where you flush their system of all typical allergens and then systematically reintroduce cerain foods to determine what gets the reaction.
Contrary to what some holier than thou posters have said, my vet is not a quack, animals can absolutely develop allergies to animal proteins, and I'm not killing my dog by feeding him vegetarian food. (frankly, it's a little insulting to even have that said, but whatever) Luckily, since my original post I've found a veggie dog food that contains no common allergens - no corn, no animal protein, no wheat, no soy. My pooch is doing great with this food! I'll monitor his skin and poo (icky, but neccessary) and see how he does with it long-term. I mix it with fresh fruits and veg (he adores apples and fish oil) and he loves it. -
my dog is allergic as all-get-out
for the past 5 months, she's been doing great on a home made beef stew
a pound of ground beef
with well cooked potatoes, carrots, spinach, chard, kale, etc...
enough to last for a week
she's lost weight on this
has more energy
and her sexiness now goes to 11
i advocate for live enzymes
it makes all the difference over a processed kibble diet -
Since my last post my dog's skin allergies got really bad. It was the worst it had ever been and we were giving her that vaccine. When I asked the vet about this, she said it may take a year to see results...originally she told me that we'd see improvement within 3 months. She was on the vaccine for over 5 months! In this case, I think the vet was not a quack, but she just wanted to keep with the current course of treatment without considering the idea that we might be able to do something naturally- without drugs.
So then...I discovered Whiskers. We transitioned her to a raw diet and we've seen dramatic improvement in her allergies AND behavior. I think the drugs were having a negative effect on her in many ways. We were even able to treat a yeast infection on her skin with vinegar and oatmeal baths and yogurt. I'm so glad to have my sweetie back! I hated seeing her so miserable.
Quijibo- I'm assuming your girl is a pit, too. My girl's sexiness now goes to 25...wanna have a contest?
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/ / / Raw diet made a big diff, eh? Duke's skin has gotten markedly worse the past few days. He was doing great for 2 solid weeks and then *boom* skin problems galore. It's like a recurring nightmare - scaly scabby round patches, red rash, the whole works.
So discouraged. Might try the raw food thing. Poor baby! -
Huge difference. We were also feeding her dry vegetarian kibble (not as balanced as your veggie diet sounds) so I don't think she was getting the amount of protein she needed. When we first got her, she was on a chicken kibble diet, then she started presenting allergy symptoms. We switched her to lamb, then potato and duck, then vegetarian (all kibble). I know the nightmare- we went through it for 2 years.
Have you tried adding a little salmon oil? It might make a little difference. Switching to the raw diet took over a month and the food isn't easy to come by in bulk so I wouldn't suggest doing it unless you're fairly certain it will make a difference in your dog. After speaking with Phil at Whiskers, it all made sense. -
We actually have a couple of dogs with food allergies and feed them all - even the ones who don't have allergies - a vegetarian diet. We mix Nature's Recipe canned vegetarian formula with Natural Balance dry vegetarian and they love it! One of our dogs came to us with awful skin allergies/ear infection caused by allergies and everything has cleared up with the medication we used and this food. Good luck with whatever you choose to use.
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I'm back to the home-cooked diet, which is basically raw (loads of veggies, brown rice, and we've added fish oil), but with some beans mixed in. Contrary to one of the previous posters, I've been told by several vets that beans are a good protein source for him. I'm hoping his latest skin rections clear up soon. He was eating the Nature's Recipe dry veggie formula for about a week, but his skin got bad again after it had cleared up, so I'm flushing his system before trying it again.
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ninemonthsout wrote: Quijibo- I'm assuming your girl is a pit, too. My girl's sexiness now goes to 25...wanna have a contest?
i refuse to take your money [-X
my pit's milk shake brings all the boys to the yard -
ninemonthsout wrote: Quijibo- I'm assuming your girl is a pit, too. My girl's sexiness now goes to 25...wanna have a contest?
i refuse to take your money [-X
my pit's milk shake brings all the boys to the yard -
My girl is hot to death (even with the scratchies). It's on, Quijibo.
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My girl is hot to death (even with the scratchies). It's on, Quijibo.
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