Indian Food on Franklin (fka Franklin Ave stand up!)
So I usually stop by Bombay Palace on Franklin once a week or so for take-out, and whenever the owner's around we end up chatting about the business (unfortunately, I've never learned his name). Last night, though, he confessed that things were not going well--he wondered aloud if it was the food, or him, or what, because he couldn't figure out why it was happening. He said that hopefully the new pizza place opening on the corner of Prospect would attract new business, or (hope upon hope) that maybe a new bar like Franklin Park would open our way toward Atlantic. "If people have a choice," he said, "they come--but if they have no choices, they go somewhere else."
I didn't get the sense that they were on the brink of closing, but he's clearly not feeling good about the future, and it reiterated for me how hard it is to open a business in a diversifying neighborhood--and how important it is for people to support these businesses not in words, but in dollars. That goes for all quality places, old AND new--if you love Bristen's, spread the word, and if you love Kelso's, spread the word just as hard. The more people realize there's great food in the neighborhood, the less tempted they'll be to head over to Park Slope...and the more prospective businesses will realize that Franklin is a viable location. Wishing for a bakery is great and all, but in many ways it's up to us to make it happen by demonstrating a committed (and hungry!) customer base.
Sorry, just realizing that my first post ever sounds like a shill--it's just that this is the thing that finally forced me to drop the lurking and register here...
I didn't get the sense that they were on the brink of closing, but he's clearly not feeling good about the future, and it reiterated for me how hard it is to open a business in a diversifying neighborhood--and how important it is for people to support these businesses not in words, but in dollars. That goes for all quality places, old AND new--if you love Bristen's, spread the word, and if you love Kelso's, spread the word just as hard. The more people realize there's great food in the neighborhood, the less tempted they'll be to head over to Park Slope...and the more prospective businesses will realize that Franklin is a viable location. Wishing for a bakery is great and all, but in many ways it's up to us to make it happen by demonstrating a committed (and hungry!) customer base.
Sorry, just realizing that my first post ever sounds like a shill--it's just that this is the thing that finally forced me to drop the lurking and register here...
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wow, i hope they don't close, i love their food! we always order from them when we feel like Indian food. I have only been at the actual restaurant once, and the owner seemed very nice.
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thanks for posting this.
I was actually at franklin park on wednesday night and a bunch of folks had ordered from bombay palace - the food looked/smelled awesome and my friend, who lives in PS, was very excited to know that joy had the same menu/owner. it's unfortunate that restaurants don't feel like they're getting business. as a frequenter of many of the bullet-proof chinese joints in PH, though, I can attest to the fact that I'm generally the only person ordering something like "roast pork with chinese vegetable"; most orders are fried chicken wings and french fries. so. that doesn't mean the chinese food places are shutting down, it just means that they're filling a need that isn't traditionally a food request from a chinese food restaurant. maybe bombay palace needs to figure something similar out? -
Part of the problem is that I think that a lot of folks in the neighborhood that want Indian have grown so used to having to go elsewhere, they don't even think about patronizing new local businesses. It's hard to break people out of those habits.
I am surprised that they don't get a lot of business being around the corner from the Jewish hospital. I'd have thought that the new folks in that building alone would have been enough to keep them afloat. -
Yeah I hope they're okay. Bad as it is for our budget, wifey and I order from Bombay at least once a week and a lot of food as well.
Maybe with summer coming up and more people walking around and seeing what's going on Franklin there'll be a upturn for all the business guys on the strip. -
OT: BK, your avatar just rang a bell..Mordred's helmet?
LOVED that flick growing up.
(and btw, one could play the "Bob" Newhart drinking game with as many times as Arthur says "Merlin?!?!?!")
Oh, and back on-topic: Guess I'll have to get over to try Bombay. Any fave dishes there?
/me disappears riding across the Dragon's breath... -
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alafairnadia wrote: thanks for posting this.
Do you suggest they serve Tandori hamburgers or maybe chicken Tikka with french fries?
I was actually at franklin park on wednesday night and a bunch of folks had ordered from bombay palace - the food looked/smelled awesome and my friend, who lives in PS, was very excited to know that joy had the same menu/owner. it's unfortunate that restaurants don't feel like they're getting business. as a frequenter of many of the bullet-proof chinese joints in PH, though, I can attest to the fact that I'm generally the only person ordering something like "roast pork with chinese vegetable"; most orders are fried chicken wings and french fries. so. that doesn't mean the chinese food places are shutting down, it just means that they're filling a need that isn't traditionally a food request from a chinese food restaurant. maybe bombay palace needs to figure something similar out? -
TheBurgerking wrote: [quote=alafairnadia]thanks for posting this.
Do you suggest they serve Tandori hamburgers or maybe chicken Tikka with french fries?
I was actually at franklin park on wednesday night and a bunch of folks had ordered from bombay palace - the food looked/smelled awesome and my friend, who lives in PS, was very excited to know that joy had the same menu/owner. it's unfortunate that restaurants don't feel like they're getting business. as a frequenter of many of the bullet-proof chinese joints in PH, though, I can attest to the fact that I'm generally the only person ordering something like "roast pork with chinese vegetable"; most orders are fried chicken wings and french fries. so. that doesn't mean the chinese food places are shutting down, it just means that they're filling a need that isn't traditionally a food request from a chinese food restaurant. maybe bombay palace needs to figure something similar out?
I'm just sayin'.


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TheBurgerking wrote:
That actually sounds really freakin' good. :shock:
Do you suggest they serve Tandori hamburgers or maybe chicken Tikka with french fries?
I want some :bounce: -
I don't think Franklin Ave has enough going on yet for it to be much of a restaurant destination so I would guess the key to their success lies in delivery. In order to get a successful delivery business going they need to get the word out to everyone. If everyone within a 5 block radius were to get a delivery menu in their mailbox I bet they would see a significant increase in business.
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Bombay Place is totally yummy. We no longer order from Joy since we try to frequent the local places to support them. Please, let's support them!!! I hate traveling outside the hood to get food/drinks, etc., so let's keep them here!!
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Well, I overheard a storeowner on Nostrand saying that business in general is very bad on Nostrand these days - that people have no money.
Given that we are in a recession, and given that its hard for a restaurant to survive even in good times, I think that Bombay Masala may be in for hard times even though their food is delicious. I like the food, but even with their reasonable prices, I myself can't afford to eat out very much after I pay for rent and the subway! -
jeffrey -
yep, mordred's helmet - coolest helmet ever.
the vindaloo's good )lamb or chicken) and the usual standby chicken or lamb tikka masala. their paratha I love - but I gotta cut back on the yummy breads before i get even huger than I already am. -
Jeffrey, try the kati chicken. It's amazing.
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I'm a complete indian food snob (having lived in India).
Bombay Palace is actually, really, really good. ate in-house last nite and it was fantastic. Were they to stage a corporate buyout of the uniformly-terrible amin's around brooklyn, it'd be a coup.
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Wait, so I thought it was confirmed that Joy & Bombay were the same owners.
If so, I don't get all the raves :scratch:
Joy has been talked about over and over again in the PS board (and Chowhound) as mediocre at best and with sometimes crappy service (I waited an hour and half for food once). I've had grizzle in my meat dishes and it's super oily.
That said, does Bombay happen to have a superb cook that Joy doesn't? Do you get less oily food and tender, high quality lamb? -
I believe the awesome cook from Joy went to Bombay when they opened. I haven't ordered from Joy in awhile but did order from Bombay and loved it. the food was exactly the same as the awesome Joy food I recalled so ... dunno, but speculate?
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I agree about needing to flier the neighborhood. I lived on Franklin Ave between Lincoln and St. John's and never heard of the place until I went walking to the C last West Indian Parade Day because the 2/3/4/5 was too crowded and crazy. If I had gotten a menu on my door I would have been ordering there for years. Yummy food!
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I just moved to Franklin and Pacific and soon headed to Bombay, everything was delish. I am sharing the info with all my Brooklyn friends; good Indian in the borough is actually not that easy to find. I'm also looking forward to checking out Homage, Franklin Park and other businesses in the area.
It's sad that they're considering closing, the restaurant business is never easy especially in economic hard times. I second the idea about flyering and will mention it to the owners when I go back to the restaurant. -
Do they deliver to PLG?
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wheatstraw, could you make the subject of this thread indicate that it's about an Indian restaurant on Franklin?
We ordered from Bombay Masala last night, and we are very, very happy. We plan to order again ... frequently.
First the bad news. The omnivore among us said the chicken tandoori was too wet, and one nan bread had a spot where it wasn't cooked through. There was a question as to whether a couple of the dishes were oily, but the consensus was that they were fine.
Now the good news. The guy who answered the phone and the delivery guy were very nice. Prices are not super cheap, but not expensive either. Portions are fine. Delivery (around Kingston and Atlantic) was fast. Their menu is huge, with lots of vegetarian options and plenty of meat choices.
Most importantly, the food was delicious. Nothing was very spicy (we didn't order vindaloo or anything meant to be really hot), but everything was tasty and flavorful, and there was some spice lingering in the background, where appropriate. The shaag ponir (spinach with cheese) was a favorite, and the baigan bhurta (eggplant) was delicious, and everything in the vegetarian thali (combination plate) was great (although the alu motor gobi--cauliflower, potato, and peas--was heavy on potatoes for my taste), including the condiments and the rice. We got an order of lemon pillaw (rice), which was fragrant and delicious. The nan was good, and I think we got poori (described as light fluffy bread, but was really more a rich, thin, oily pancake), which was not fluffy, but wonderful nonetheless. Everything was just full of flavor and luscious. The non-vegetarian thali was also a hit (except the tandoori chicken), and the shaag (spinach) curry with chicken was ... I can't think of another word to use except delicious! The rice pudding dessert (rose-water flavored) was delicate and nice, and the other desserts (they gave us some for free) were also good. Honestly, we got so many different things, it was a little overwhelming, but everyone was so happy with the food.
I'm sure there are better dishes and not so good dishes, in large part measured by personal preference. I look forward to trying everything, and finding my favorites. I'm starting to drool just thinking about it. It wasn't perfect, but I will definitely order again, and I'm looking forward to it. In fact, I wish I'd taken the leftovers for lunch. I like Bombay Masala, and I really hope they succeed. I am going to do my part to see that they prosper, and I don't mind doing it. Not at all. They have a website (which is where we found the menu--I agree they should put out menus far and wide, but some people hate to have menus left at their door): http://bombaybrooklyn.com/
As for Udom, I agree their pad Thai is not so good. And we tried the Udon combo fried rice, which wasn't so good either. But try the pad see yue or the spicy basil noodles. And I hear the green mussels are delicious. In fact, they have several dishes that we really enjoy, like the dried curry (most of the curry dishes). Give them another chance, just order something else. For a bright, refreshing dish, we like the vegetarian fresh ginger. And when we asked for a spicy curry--really spicy--they did give it to us. Talk to them, tell them what you want. -
I've gotten takeout or delivery from BM several times. The delivery is super fast. Only took about 20 minutes prime time Saturday night. I love their lamb saag. It's a little more oily than I'm used to, but very tasty. My only complaint is that it's a little too pricey to be on my takeout shortlist. The portions are fairly sized but there's never enough to take for lunch the next day! Maybe because I can't stop eating it.
Anyways, I enthusiastically support BM and other neighborhood newcomers as much as the wallet will bear. It's a real treat to be able to take a ten minute walk and have such a variety of eats. -
Sadly I'm not around the neighborhood much except for odd hours but hopefully I'll be able to at least order some takeout from them, maybe this weekend. Does anyone know their hours?
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Not sure when they open, but I believe they close/stop delivering between 11 and 12 on weekends. The food is good - comparable to India Place on Vanderbilt. I think Bombay Masala is slightly more expensive, and their delivery time is longer (even though I live one long block away, whilst Vanderbilt is several long blocks away), but I still order from them sometimes hoping that every little bit helps.
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Subject: Bombay Masala: Cost Is the Issue
I like Bombay Masala just fine (for whatever cred it lends me, I am Indian).
I no longer do dine-in or delivery there, however, because the prices are way too high for the 'hood. The prices might have been just fine for the high-rollers who dined at Joy on Flatbush, but they are not appropriate for Franklin Ave.
Why would I patronize Bombay Masala when I could have an equally delicious meal, for 25% less, from India Place on Vanderbilt?
B. Masala's owners need to know that their prices are too high. -
Oh wow oh wow oh wow is their vindaloo good.
Maybe I'll try to live on only that for 1 week to show my support. -
I agree that their prices are high, but when I order, I order enough to JUSTIFY delivery (delivery is very rare for me and have only specifically ordered from BP twice), so usually a meat entree plus the option of a veg entree as a "side" portion plus naan. With tip I think it's $21 or $22, can't remember for sure, and ends up being 4 meals. I overeat excessively on the first day because I finish the bread, but the entrees surprise me by being enough for 3 more dinners. I figure $5.50 for each meal isn't too shabby, and I like this style of food for leftovers because it stays relatively true to form when re-heated in a pan, unlike other foods that need oven re-heating and dry out a bit.
On a side note, poori should be a gloriously puffed ball of goodness! Disappointing that it sounds like Bombay Masala's is just...bread. Maybe it just suffers from delivery? -
I've had poori delivered before that was puffy so something went haywire in the preparation.
I just ordered from there (damn you all for making me hungry!) and the prices don't seem overly steep (that is compared to Indian food I used to get in Queens) but there delivery minimum is STEEP. 12$! That's all lot to get if you're just a single person. So I ordered the salmon tandoori so I could meet that minimum. We'll see how it is. -
I have to agree about the prices. I think they're just a bit too high for me -- and it makes it difficult for me to frequent them. It's frustrating because I want them to do well.
As a poori fanatic, I'll say that it usually should be a bit fluffy. Poori is definitely best straight from the pan -- otherwise it starts to settle. It therefore absolutely suffers from delivery. Also, BM's poori seems to suffer if you're the only one ordering it, because I think the pan is too hot (or maybe not hot enough?).
I echo, however, the comments about about the food. -
The salmon tandoori was okay, I guess. The sauce was a bit heavy. I liked that it was on a bed of saag though. And the naan was great. I'm probably not going to be a regular though.
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