South Slope/Windsor Terrace bars

Flexichick wrote: I don't like walking by a window full of guys when I'm on the way to the park and being looked at like they haven't eaten in a month and I have a pork chop on my neck.

HARRR! that was funny and such an accurate description.

Yes the thing that sucks about Farrell's is that I can hate the place and take my business elsewhere but that's not where the Farrell's experience ends with most of us ladies that have to walk by or--worse--live a few doors down.

So, what would be a good reason to trash a place then? If what it is sucks in someone's opinion isn't that reason enough to say "hey, I hate that place"?
You don't have to like it, but not need to trash it nor suggest that it change into something else other than what it is because the people that do go there are quite happy with it.
Hey, no reason to trash them for just being what they are...

I have seen the ignorance and bad attitudes of which you speak. I've seen them from both sides of the counter. I've also seen them as an educator, an administrator...I've seen these awful attitudes spill out of all types of people. Both native and non-native. If you want to focus on just the Yuppies, well, then that's your issue. But ignorance and entitlement do not belong solely to the yuppies. If they did, life would be a lot more cur and dry

Maybe I have just adjusted to the others, maybe in a few years I will be able to turn a deaf ear....but something about this particular group really gets under my skin. Maybe it is just the way they talk down to everyone around them.
Are you talking about things like new restaurants and bars and such? Again, speaking as someone who grew up here, I kind of like being able to walk to several great places to eat and get a drink. Personally, I'd rather spend my money here than in Manhattan. Sure, there are places with attitude or a vibe I don't care for, so then I just walk over to the next avenue.
There is nothing wrong with new, and I love going to different places, but why try to change something that already exists?

So these would be....homeless yuppies? My god, the economy is doing worse than I thought!

Nah not homeless, they just think that they are so enlightened they no longer need personal hygeine. Yet another trait I find severely offensive.

Pork chops and apple sauce. I'm hungry :-(

Vidro,

It's the word dive that really sets me off more so about R&B than Farrell's. I know what a dive is and neither of the two are dives. R&B is a neighborhood bar, the afterwork happy hour place or the weekend I-am-not-in-the-mood-to-travel place. It is clean and pretty and the first time I walked in around four years ago I felt it was one of the warmest places I had ever been in (I dont' mean temperature). Farrells is just Farrells, a piece of Brooklyn's history which some would rather have it changed into something else because they really just don't understand.

Subject: Re: South Slope/Windsor Terrace bars

vidro3 wrote: If: one lives near the Key Food on Prospect Ave and 11th Ave.;
And: one desires drinking alcoholic beverages at a bar proximal to one's home;
And: one does not want to drink at either Farrell's or Rhythm & Booze;

Then: to which bar should one hasten?

Bar 4 at Seventh Avenue and 15th Street?

bullyboy wrote: Farrells is a cancer. Fine, call me a yuppie, tell me I'm not from around here, tell me to go back to where I came from, but Farrells is a cancer on this neighborhood.

They sell 32-ounce styrofoam cups of beer to men who are double parked. (They attempt to mask this brazen illegality by sticking a straw in the top of the cup.) The men walk out to their car, lift the lid, blow the foam onto the street, get in their car and drive off. Past the field where children are playing.

Those who live within walking distance spill out onto the sidewalk, drinking from their massive cups, tossing the tops onto the sidewalk, and filling the air with loud profanity.

The patrons give money to and buy alcohol for the inebriated wasted husks of men who sit outside and across from the bar, huffing glue, yelling incomprehensibly, shitting and urinating on the stoops of surrounding buildings or in the entrance to the subway.

Every. Single. Day.

This has nothing to do with neighborhood pride and tradition and everything to do with an institution that is rotting a fine community from the inside. Farrells is a cancer.

Hmmm that is funny, ruining a "fine community". Those peope were born and raised in the neighborhood so then I guess you would have people leave the neighborhood that they were born and raised and their parents before them all to please you? Again, I don't go there and I may have a very different approach to bartending, but the place has been there forever, it is a neighborhood bar where generation after generation of NEIGHBORHOOD people have been hanging out. And it isn't going anywhere anytime soon so TOUGH.

Subject: Thank God for Civil Servants- yes because we need them

Hamilton wrote: If it weren't for Firemen, Police and Sanitation workers drinking there, they would probably be out of business.

And what are wrong wtih Firemen, Police, and Sanitation workers? Or do you have a problem with the people that help this city function?

Windsor Terrace is made up of these people.

Subject: Re: Farrells

Laurac wrote: This has nothing to do with neighborhood pride and tradition and everything to do with an institution that is rotting a fine community from the inside. Farrells is a cancer.

And just as an FYI, the people who have lived in the neighborhood for generations hate, despise, are sick over the peope who are moving into the neighborhood and trying to drive them out of it. So when you talk about "community" who are you referring to? The people who have been going to Holy Name forever, the people who support all of the local charities, the people who look out for one another's children and grandchildren? Because those are the people that hang out in Farrells. Were you aware of the amount of fundraising Farrell's does for the neighborhood, for FDNY, for Juvenile Diabetes, and for the familes of those that died in WTC? What do you contribute to the "community"?

WOW HATE, DESPISE, SICK OVER THE PEOPLE MOVING IN?
REALLY?
HOW SAD FOR YOU THAT YOU THINK THAT
AND TOO BAD

Subject: Re: Farrells

WOW HATE, DESPISE, SICK OVER THE PEOPLE MOVING IN?
REALLY?
HOW SAD FOR YOU THAT YOU THINK THAT
AND TOO BAD

I only hear it from families who have lived here their whole lives on a consistent basis. People who were born and raised in the neighborhood and get looked at and spoken down to by the yuppies who would just love for all of the locals to leave so they can have it all to themselves. Again, what do these people do to contribute the to the community that they speak of. The only people I ever see contributing or attending the local fundraisers are the locals, the forever residents. The yuppies turn their noses up.

No one wants all the locals to leave.

If you want newcomers to participate in community events, you could try being welcoming. (You could start by not calling them names.)

My observations are neither exaggeration nor fabrication. I live down the street from Farrell's and work at home. I see what I see.

And as for Farrell's, all I want is for them to abide by the rules that ALL OTHER BARS in the city of New York do: No selling open containers to people leaving the premises.

Simple as that.

I'm delighted to hear that, nubnu! Welcome to the neighborhood!

Wow, after 10 years, who would think that my neighbors who have been so nice and welcoming to me are secretly hating me for ruining their neighborhood! I'm wondering why they don't refuse to get top dollar rents from people like me and take half as much to keep their own kind in.

Yes FlexiChick, great question!!!!!!

That's why they hate you -- for forcing them to take your money!

I hope Farrell's will always be there for you and that they don't get shut down for serving beer to go, which is blatantly illegal.