Drug Shop on Fulton Street / Franklin ?
I pass by a Jamaican restaurant called Gold Coast that;s right above a record shop. it's a tiny hop away from the C train station.
Typical retail establishments of a bed stuy neighborhood -- except the restaurant has no food, no drinks, and rarely has anyone behind the counter...
and the record shop, while music blasts from the basement record store daily, i don't think i've ever actually SEEN anyone walk out of there with a LP in hand. also, a man stations himself outside of the store everyday... doing nothing, basically, but hanging out and talking to passerbys.
so ... does anyone know the place that i'm talking about? does anyone have know for a fact that this is a drug selling place? it's all very fishy and bothers me a bit since i live in the neighborhood...
Typical retail establishments of a bed stuy neighborhood -- except the restaurant has no food, no drinks, and rarely has anyone behind the counter...
and the record shop, while music blasts from the basement record store daily, i don't think i've ever actually SEEN anyone walk out of there with a LP in hand. also, a man stations himself outside of the store everyday... doing nothing, basically, but hanging out and talking to passerbys.
so ... does anyone know the place that i'm talking about? does anyone have know for a fact that this is a drug selling place? it's all very fishy and bothers me a bit since i live in the neighborhood...
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I know the place you're talking about! I went in there with a friend a few months ago and looked at records. That little basement is CRAMMED with vinyl, but it is not really a store. There is no counter or register, it is just a basement with 6 foot stacks (not bins, or anything that even remotely says, "These are for sale") I don't know how anyone could ever find anything in there if they wanted to. So in response to your question, I don't know. There was a sweet old man "working" there, and he was knowledgeable about music and seemed genuinely into the records and there was no shady weird drug vibe at any time, but then again, I don't think a record has moved from that basement since 1985, and sheer economics implies something else is making it worth his while to run the store. You should talk to that guy, you'll like him.
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Why would you log out to post something like this? If you are serious about closing a drug spot down maybe you should call your local precinct. I myself don't understand the economics of many small stores. Expensive boutiques with three dresses on the rack would imply that something else is going on as well. I've been told that some of the clothing stores on Fulton are more workshops for the designers who own them. I would imagine that rents on Fulton Street are still pretty low. And if someone owns the building outright I guess they could do what ever they wanted there. Some stores seem to be making it harder for drug sales to happen in them - the bodega at the corner of Putnam and Grand comes to mind, which opened up its front and redesigned the inside so there were fewer hidden corners.
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You can get drugs at the "cd store" on Fulton between St James and Washington if you want to. You know it, I know it, the 88th Precinct knows it, and the American people know it.
Nobody pays the rent selling albums anymore. -
Subject: stop ill-informed rumor-mongering
I think it's incredible that the OP assumes that the only way a random store can stay in business is by selling drugs. I go to the record store you speak of on a regular basis and have spent hundreds of dollars there. There are really rare records if you are willing to dig through them. The man who owns it is one of the nicest people I've met in the neighborhood and I've never once seen anything mildly illicit happen inside. He's been there forever and has stories about how neighborhood musicians like Mr. Cee, Easy Mo Bee and X-Clan used to come in to dig soul records.
The restaurant I cannot speak on, I've never gone in. -
Subject: selling drugs blah blah blah
idiot.. just because theres not white smiling faces running in & out of the mentioned locations buying bottles of imported wine does not make these locations drug spots. i've actually seen japanese hipsters(yes theyre hipper than the white ones) coming out of that record store with stacks of rare grooves. if your new to the neighborhood u should try walking into each business establishment and actually seeing what they have to offer. If your a cultureless saltine from the midwest etc. and this is your first "urban" experience dont be so quick to judge what u know nothing about. -
This post is going places!
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The responses posted on 5/20 at 4:30 and especially on 5/21 at 12:32 are precisely the reasons why the OP posted anonymously. S/he knew that the post would result in hysterical, race-baiting responses and, sure enough, it did.
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That record store does not sell drugs and neither does the cd store on st.james and fulton. How does he maintain? I don't know, but I KNOW he doesn't sell drugs out of there. The restaurant does serve food, I know they jerk their chicken on the split oil can grill that's in front. Please be careful when you make speculations with out knowing facts. It's not fair to the businesses whether you patronize them or think their eyesores.
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BK Nest -- With all due respect to the fact that I love your blog, enjoy your perspective, and have been in this neighborhood a lot less time than you have -- they do sell drugs out of the cd store on Fulton between St James & Washington. I see it ALL the time, right in front of the store. I believe they might also sell, like, compact discs and posters and stuff in there. I believe the guy who runs the place might be a good guy. But I live RIGHT THERE on that corner and there is a drug trade that happens in connection to that store. It's just a fact. We all witness it, we all whisper about it.
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The people who sell drugs are not officially affiliated with that store. The might linger AND LOITER out in front but the store itself is NOT a drug SPOT.
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If you owned a store and people were selling drugs in front of it, you'd probably call the police, or take measures to clean things up. That's not what's going on here. I see the characters that make deals outside the store walking in and out of the store all the time.
If your point is that the SELLING is going on *in front* of the store, but not *in* the store, it's all just legal semantics. It's all a tidy way of protecting oneself from incrimination. The store owner is clearly complicit.
Let's support businesses on Fulton street, old and new.
Let's do our best to keep our streets free of drugs and violence too. -
i wasn't expecting much of a response really... but since you all are here, it's time for some snarky chit-chat!
bknest wrote: That record store does not sell drugs and neither does the cd store on st.james and fulton. How does he maintain? I don't know, but I KNOW he doesn't sell drugs out of there. The restaurant does serve food, I know they jerk their chicken on the split oil can grill that's in front. Please be careful when you make speculations with out knowing facts. It's not fair to the businesses whether you patronize them or think their eyesores.
i SWEAR i have never seen anyone behind the counter of that restaurant. everything in there looks so neglected, stagnate, like nothings been touched in a decade. there are never any drinks in the glass fridge, the lights are always off and HAVE YOU SEEN THAT GUM IN THE GUMBALL MACHINE??? at any rate, when's the last time you've had a meal there? it looks like nothing's been served there since 1976... i am mostly just really confused by the place.
i agree about your opinion on speculations, but to be fair, i never presented my speculations as facts. it was an inquiry... can you really fault me for not knowing and asking? cut me some slack. educate me - let me in on something. that's why i made the post. i don't get the high horse some people came riding into this thread on (not you though, you were pretty nice about it)u dummies wrote: idiot.. just because theres not white smiling faces running in & out of the mentioned locations buying bottles of imported wine does not make these locations drug spots. i've actually seen japanese hipsters(yes theyre hipper than the white ones) coming out of that record store with stacks of rare grooves. if your new to the neighborhood u should try walking into each business establishment and actually seeing what they have to offer. If your a cultureless saltine from the midwest etc. and this is your first "urban" experience dont be so quick to judge what u know nothing about.
listen here, ya dip, you don't know me! i'm not white or a hipster, but thanks for playing. i never commented on the race or assumed background of the people coming out of the "record store" (i don't even see anyone coming out of the record store, tbh). i commented on A) the dark, desolate restaurant that looks like it's neither stored nor had food cooked there in decades and a dark record shop below the restaurant where i've seen no one buying records from EVER. i've passed by that place multiple times a day for the past 7 months, so stuff it, turkeyhead.
it's not farfetched to think that, since this area was a hotbed for drug activity at one point, some remnants of its past may still exist... i've heard gun shots at night, homie. just because you choose to not acknowledge something doesn't mean that it doesn't or can't happen. be proud of your neighborhood, but don't kid yourself.
anyway, i'm not going out to 'explore' some dark, customer-less, suspicious looking basement store. i got enough problems. and for the record, i do patronize various stores on fulton street -- what is your point?
actually, the real question is 'what was my point in replying to you?' goodness...Anonymous wrote: I think it's incredible that the OP assumes that the only way a random store can stay in business is by selling drugs. I go to the record store you speak of on a regular basis and have spent hundreds of dollars there. The man who owns it is one of the nicest people I've met in the neighborhood ... He's been there forever and has stories about how neighborhood musicians ... used to come in to dig soul records.
i smile at the white-haired dude that hangs outside of that record store and say hello to him daily and the bitch says nothing back! i'm sweet as candy and cute as a button, so i don't know what his problem is, but that's neither here nor there.
The restaurant I cannot speak on, I've never gone in.
the background info you gave on him and his store is cool though. i appreciate it. i'm not being sarcastic either...
and yes, i would assume that a store would need to sell things in order to survive. silly me -- here i am thinking about paying rent, livable wages and the idea that people have stores to sell products to :drumroll: customers (that i've personally never seen) perhaps they makes $200,000 per year in profits using the record store as a front to sell homebaked chocolate chip muffins. or maybe he owns the patent on Slinky's... what do i know? the only thing i'm semi-sure of is that that they don't ***APPEAR*** to be making a killing selling albums.putnam-denizen wrote: I myself don't understand the economics of many small stores. Expensive boutiques with three dresses on the rack would imply that something else is going on as well. ... I would imagine that rents on Fulton Street are still pretty low. And if someone owns the building outright I guess they could do what ever they wanted there
good points... i especially like the comparison to expensive boutiques and the fact that the restaurant/store may be owned outright. something for me to think about. thanks, tis interesting.
anyway, despite the tone of some of the posts in this thread, i am able to overlook the meaness and learn something from them. ; ) mission accomplished. -
OP....
snarky but I liked your response to some of the hotter-headed posters on this thread.
You know people, sometimes, if it looks like a duck and quacks like a duck...
Doesn't mean OP hates ducks (or something...) -
If one has never seen or heard a duck (or seen a drug dealer and witnessed the sale of drugs), your reasoning may escape them.
At the risk of ruining a good thing, I will tell you this; for myself and other collectors of vintage vinyl records, that basement record store has been a gold mine. And finding what you want is like panning for gold. Records are crammed every where, devoid of any order or catalog system. If you know exactly what you're looking for, the owner can usually tell you where to begin looking. However, I find the independent search and surprise discovery to be part of the collecting experience. I have found treasures there, when Tower Records, Virgin Records, and even downtown Brooklyn's Beat Street yielded zilch.
When James Brown passed, Christmas of 2007, two days later my brother-in-law and I were in the store, searching through its record stacks, bins, and boxes for all things James Brown. On that day the 45 rpm gods smiled on me and graced me with a 1956 original pressing of, "Please, Please, Please". I've lived in the area for more then 20 years and as far back as I can remember the basement record store has been there.
Over the past three years its acquired an expanded reputation for being a "hidden resource". Now, DJ's, rappers, and aspiring Hip-Hop artists mine its wares as an old-school source for 'sampling'.
Appreciation for the store and its owner has been expressed over the air waves by Pacifica Radio WBAI's, Andrea Clarke, producer of the progressive soul program, Sister From Another Planet, and Tony Ryan, host of WBAI's Soul Central Station, which features R&B, soul, funk, and blues. Apparently they fearlessly or out of curiosity ventured down into that basement.
Chances are I'll stop there this week, looking of course, for all things Bo Diddley.
As for the Gold Coast eatery, though I enjoy the aroma of the grilled jerk chicken that wafts out of the blackened oil drum placed out front on the side walk each summer, I've never been in the place. For me, the issue that informs my avoidance of the place, ain't the possible sale of illegal drugs, but rather the apparent absence of Dept of Health and Sanitation inspections.
Call me naive, but to my thinking, people dealing drugs on one of Fulton Street's most heavily trafficked and police patrolled thoroughfares, suggests to me, that these are drug dealers whom should seriously rethink their career choices. -
Thanks for the info on that particular location. It does remind me of a time when most NYC commerce was local and not chain. I remember reading an article a way back that said thay many travellers go to chains because they know what they are getting, as opposed to risking going to a local establishment. And in a way, by asking the question, the OP gave rise to a very informative thread.
[But you realize that drugs are being dealt on Fulton Street, right? Even tho it is heavily trafficked and police patrolled?] -
Putnam-denizen wrote: [But you realize that drugs are being dealt on Fulton Street, right? Even tho it is heavily trafficked and police patrolled?]
Of course, and evidently by those who don't know that discretion and respect for the law and community is part of the "successful" drug dealer's skill set. -
Subject: WBAI and Tony Ryan
Read a post here about how Andrea Clarke and Tony Ryan shouted out a record store in Brooklyn.
TOny Ryan is a WBAI butthole who used to be posted on a don't date him girl website.
The posting was taken down, but you can still find remnants of it online on blogs and stuff.
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