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  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    Yeah! Big to-go cups, with a straw and everything! It's only a quart, though, so you might want to get two!
  • bklyn.x
    bklyn.x
    bullyboy wrote: I hope Farrell's will always be there for you and that they don't get shut down for serving beer to go, which is blatantly illegal.
    I think they’ll be alright. Thanks for your concern my friend, next time I’m there I’ll lift a glass to you.
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    You gotta love a "law and order" community where the rules apply to everyone else...
  • bklyn.x
    bklyn.x
    I’m not a lawyer and I’m not sure of the rule but isn’t it illegal to have an open container of beer (as in an open can or bottle) but not illegal to sell beer to go? I’ve gotten beer to go at Nathan’s in Coney Island.
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    Nathan's has an outdoor seating area.
  • MOD
    MOD
    We've (family and friends) bought beer to go at a Coney stand (not nathan's w/o any seating) and walked around with it ... just saying.
  • laurac
    laurac
    Bklyn.X wrote: I’m not a lawyer and I’m not sure of the rule but isn’t it illegal to have an open container of beer (as in an open can or bottle) but not illegal to sell beer to go? I’ve gotten beer to go at Nathan’s in Coney Island.
    And you can get a container of beer anywhere on the boardwalk with our without outdoor seating..... you can also walk into a corner store and get a 40 with a paper bag and call it a day :lol:
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    It should be pretty clear to you that 16th Street isn't the Coney Island boardwalk.

    Or is it?
  • vidro3
    vidro3
    The appropriate law is New York City Administrative Code, section 10-125, consumption of alcohol in public:

    b. No person shall drink or consume an alcoholic beverage, or possess, with intent to drink or consume, an open container containing an alcoholic beverage in any public place except at a block party, feast or similar function for which a permit has been obtained.

    c. Possession of an open container containing an alcoholic beverage by any person shall create a rebuttable presumption that such person did intend to consume the contents thereof in violation of this section.

    Laws pertaining to open containers in vehicles differ by state. 39 states including NY, have agreed to comply with the Federal TEA-21, in exchange for financial incentives.

    To comply with TEA-21, a state's motor vehicle open container laws must:

    Prohibit both possession of any open alcoholic beverage container and consumption of any alcoholic beverage;

    Cover the passenger area of any motor vehicle, including unlocked glove compartments and any other areas of the vehicle that are readily accessible to the driver or passengers while in their seats;

    Apply to all open alcoholic beverage containers and all alcoholic beverages, including beer, wine, and spirits that contain one-half of one percent or more of alcohol by volume;

    Apply to all vehicle occupants except for passengers of vehicles designed, maintained or used primarily for the transportation of people for compensation (such as buses, taxi cabs, and limousines) or the living quarters of motor homes;

    Apply to all vehicles on a public highway or the right-of-way (i.e. on the shoulder) of a public highway;

    Require primary enforcement of the law, rather than requiring probable cause that another violation had been committed before allowing enforcement of the open container law.
    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/research/OpenContainer/open_container_criteria.htm

    I can't find the law but I am pretty sure it is illegal to sell beer to go. I've been to places that would not let me take a glass across the street to their second location.

    Also, I doubt the plastic top on the styrofoam cup counts as a "closed" container. So if a cop sees you taking your 1-2 sips then taking the container into the car, as per section C above, he can assume that you intend to drink it while driving. Then all sorts of other laws come into play.
  • laurac
    laurac
    nubnu wrote: I have lived here a whole 5 days now
    and everyone I see on the street or at the stores or the restaurants have been nothing but lovely and sweet and courteous
    Everyone is nice, and I am sure you have put your best foot forward as well. I welcome nice people into the neighborhood all the time. but he second someone tries to stick up their nose and act like they have come down from a palace to grace us all with their magnificant presence is when it ends. Back track the posts and you will understand what I am talking about
  • laurac
    laurac
    vidro3 wrote: The appropriate law is New York City Administrative Code, section 10-125, consumption of alcohol in public:

    b. No person shall drink or consume an alcoholic beverage, or possess, with intent to drink or consume, an open container containing an alcoholic beverage in any public place except at a block party, feast or similar function for which a permit has been obtained.

    c. Possession of an open container containing an alcoholic beverage by any person shall create a rebuttable presumption that such person did intend to consume the contents thereof in violation of this section.

    Laws pertaining to open containers in vehicles differ by state. 39 states including NY, have agreed to comply with the Federal TEA-21, in exchange for financial incentives.

    To comply with TEA-21, a state's motor vehicle open container laws must:

    Prohibit both possession of any open alcoholic beverage container and consumption of any alcoholic beverage;

    Cover the passenger area of any motor vehicle, including unlocked glove compartments and any other areas of the vehicle that are readily accessible to the driver or passengers while in their seats;

    Apply to all open alcoholic beverage containers and all alcoholic beverages, including beer, wine, and spirits that contain one-half of one percent or more of alcohol by volume;

    Apply to all vehicle occupants except for passengers of vehicles designed, maintained or used primarily for the transportation of people for compensation (such as buses, taxi cabs, and limousines) or the living quarters of motor homes;

    Apply to all vehicles on a public highway or the right-of-way (i.e. on the shoulder) of a public highway;

    Require primary enforcement of the law, rather than requiring probable cause that another violation had been committed before allowing enforcement of the open container law.
    http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/people/injury/research/OpenContainer/open_container_criteria.htm

    I can't find the law but I am pretty sure it is illegal to sell beer to go. I've been to places that would not let me take a glass across the street to their second location.

    Also, I doubt the plastic top on the styrofoam cup counts as a "closed" container. So if a cop sees you taking your 1-2 sips then taking the container into the car, as per section C above, he can assume that you intend to drink it while driving. Then all sorts of other laws come into play.
    Well according to Hamilton it is all fireman, santitation and cops that hang out there I doubt anyone is writing their drinking buddies a ticket....
  • laurac
    laurac
    bullyboy wrote: It should be pretty clear to you that 16th Street isn't the Coney Island boardwalk.

    Or is it?
    I like the way you pick and choose what you will respond to...did you know that you can go into the corner store right across the street and get a beer to go? did you know that this place that you consider to be a "cancer" does an unbelievable amount of charity work? Or will you continue to avoid acknowledging that? What do you give back to the community? Do you want to know why Farrells will never get shut down or can you figure it out yet?
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    Yes, you can buy a beer to go at the corner store but not from a bar. That is the law.

    But it's illegal to stand outside a corner store or a bar and drink the beer.

    And it's illegal to open the beer and get in your car and drive.

    I understand that Farrell's does an enormous amount of charitable work and is a treasured cornerstone of the neighborhood.

    I didn't say I want Farrell's to close. I want Farrell's to obey the same rules that every other bar in the entire city of New York has to obey.
  • laurac
    laurac
    Flexichick wrote: Wow, after 10 years, who would think that my neighbors who have been so nice and welcoming to me are secretly hating me for ruining their neighborhood! I'm wondering why they don't refuse to get top dollar rents from people like me and take half as much to keep their own kind in.
    You would be surprised how many of them do. And the people that I am reffering to are the flood of stuck up-I -want-everything-for-nothing-because-I -am-so-much-better-than-you people that have been moving in recently.
  • daver
    daver
    Laurac wrote: did you know that you can go into the corner store right across the street and get a beer to go?
    I'm not a legal eagle or anything, but isn't the liquor license a bodega has to sell beer and the one a bar has to serve it totally different? I always had understood that a bar could lose its license for allowing patrons to take alcohol off the premises. But I really don't know. Just saying.

    P.S. What about all the _good_ things Hitler did??? I did it, y'all are nazis. Shut it down.
  • laurac
    laurac
    bullyboy wrote: Yes, you can buy a beer to go at the corner store but not from a bar. That is the law.

    But it's illegal to stand outside a corner store or a bar and drink the beer.

    And it's illegal to open the beer and get in your car and drive.

    I understand that Farrell's does an enormous amount of charitable work and is a treasured cornerstone of the neighborhood.

    I didn't say I want Farrell's to close. I want Farrell's to obey the same rules that every other bar in the entire city of New York has to obey.
    That's really not how your intitial post in regards to Farrells came off at all. It is not like you said "I would like it if they didn't serve beer to go" You called it a cancer and said it is eating away at the community from the inside, so how else would you interpret that?
  • vidro3
    vidro3
    Laurac wrote: [quote=bullyboy]It should be pretty clear to you that 16th Street isn't the Coney Island boardwalk.

    Or is it?
    I like the way you pick and choose what you will respond to...did you know that you can go into the corner store right across the street and get a beer to go? did you know that this place that you consider to be a "cancer" does an unbelievable amount of charity work? Or will you continue to avoid acknowledging that? What do you give back to the community? Do you want to know why Farrells will never get shut down or can you figure it out yet?

    Go read this thread from the beginning. There was no Farrell's hatred until you started bashing everyone for being Yuppie interlopers. We were merely discussing other places to drink besides Farrell's. Or is that the sin itself; that people could be so dissatisfied with Farrell's that they have the nerve to suggest other places to get a beer?

    I don't like Farrell's. It is not my cup of tea. It has a certain Je ne sais quoi that does not comport with my joie de vivre.

    You (Laurac) like Farrell's. I think we have firmly established that. Congratulations.

    Perhaps now we can get back on topic and stop the ZOMG!!! everyone wants to change the neighborhood strawman b.s.
  • laurac
    laurac
    daver wrote: [quote=Laurac]did you know that you can go into the corner store right across the street and get a beer to go?
    I'm not a legal eagle or anything, but isn't the liquor license a bodega has to sell beer and the one a bar has to serve it totally different? I always had understood that a bar could lose its license for allowing patrons to take alcohol off the premises. But I really don't know. Just saying.

    P.S. What about all the _good_ things Hitler did??? I did it, y'all are nazis. Shut it down.
    What?????
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    LOL, Daver! Thanks for that.

    So cancer is a bit of an overstatement? Fine, I'll admit that. I have a LOT of frustration at what I've witnessed in the time I've been one of Farrell's neighbors.

    You know those signs outside most bars that say, "Please respect our neighbors and keep your voices down"? Farrell's doesn't have one of those.

    Other bars know that their liquor license is in jeopardy if they're caught breaking the law or if too many complaints are registered. Farrell's knows that no one is going to call them on letting their patrons stand outside with beers or on serving beer to go to double parked cars.

    Why? That's a whole 'nother question.
  • bklyn.x
    bklyn.x
    I swear I’m trying to be a wise ass and I apologize for dragging this thing a bit off topic. Please indulge me one last question and then I’ll crawl back into my 32oz. container and leave you all alone. So the difference between a deli selling cold six-packs and a bar selling a covered container of beer is the type of license they have? As you’ve said it’s blatant so even though I’ve been buying it for years “to-go” I had honestly never thought it was illegal (I don't drink on the street).
  • laurac
    laurac
    vidro3 wrote: [quote=Laurac][quote=bullyboy]It should be pretty clear to you that 16th Street isn't the Coney Island boardwalk.

    Or is it?
    I like the way you pick and choose what you will respond to...did you know that you can go into the corner store right across the street and get a beer to go? did you know that this place that you consider to be a "cancer" does an unbelievable amount of charity work? Or will you continue to avoid acknowledging that? What do you give back to the community? Do you want to know why Farrells will never get shut down or can you figure it out yet?

    Go read this thread from the beginning. There was no Farrell's hatred until you started bashing everyone for being Yuppie interlopers. We were merely discussing other places to drink besides Farrell's. Or is that the sin itself; that people could be so dissatisfied with Farrell's that they have the nerve to suggest other places to get a beer?

    I don't like Farrell's. It is not my cup of tea. It has a certain Je ne sais quoi that does not comport with my joie de vivre.

    You (Laurac) like Farrell's. I think we have firmly established that. Congratulations.

    Perhaps now we can get back on topic and stop the ZOMG!!! everyone wants to change the neighborhood strawman b.s.

    There are like five I think the one that really got me was the one about "civil service workers" As if there was something wrong with one of those occupations...
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    Bklyn.X wrote: I swear I’m trying to be a wise ass and I apologize for dragging this thing a bit off topic. Please indulge me one last question and then I’ll crawl back into my 32oz. container and leave you all alone. So the difference between a deli selling cold six-packs and a bar selling a covered container of beer is the type of license they have? As you’ve said it’s blatant so even though I’ve been buying it for years “to-go” I had honestly never thought it was illegal (I don't drink on the street).
    Yes, legally there is a difference between a bar and a bodega. Have you ever wondered why no other bars sell beer to go?
  • vidro3
    vidro3
    bullyboy wrote: [quote=Bklyn.X]I swear I’m trying to be a wise ass and I apologize for dragging this thing a bit off topic. Please indulge me one last question and then I’ll crawl back into my 32oz. container and leave you all alone. So the difference between a deli selling cold six-packs and a bar selling a covered container of beer is the type of license they have? As you’ve said it’s blatant so even though I’ve been buying it for years “to-go” I had honestly never thought it was illegal (I don't drink on the street).
    Yes, legally there is a difference between a bar and a bodega. Have you ever wondered why no other bars sell beer to go?

    Or why people just don't drink at the bodega?
  • bklyn.x
    bklyn.x
    I swear I’ve never thought to ask any place else. :oops:
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    Or why, when they do drink their bodega beer on the street, the can is in a paper bag?

    (Nice smilie, Bklyn.X!)
  • bklyn.x
    bklyn.x
    So that's what's in those paper bags!
  • laurac
    laurac
    Bklyn.X wrote: So that's what's in those paper bags!
    I don't remember what year exactly it was, but I know it was during Guliani, some of the parades in the city got out of hand and that is when the law was made that you couldn't drink in public (outside of a bar or restaurant) I don't know the specifics. But Farrells is not the only place that serves in disposable cups.
  • propertybuer
    propertybuer
    Jeez! Now I really want a fucking drink! And I don't want to get it at Farrell's.

    So can we stop the attacks and get back to the topic at hand?
  • laurac
    laurac
    I have heard that Dram shop has good drinks as well as food

    339 9th St
    Brooklyn, NY 11215
    (718) 788-1444
  • bullyboy
    bullyboy
    We've been wondering about that place -- looks interesting.

    The Beer Table on Seventh has been getting great reviews.
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