Large Number of White People on Putnam
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I wouldn't. Most people are rather enjoyable in their own silly way...
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You want me to register but you call me Andy Rooney?
That's cold! -
It just might take some a little longer than others and maybe the last person they passed on the street wasn't as awesome as you.
love that one particular response!!!!
who's the guest that wrote that?
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Subject: Re: Ive been here for almost 4yrs..
DFLOW wrote: And everyone knows me on my block (Putnam and Throop) by my first name, they look out for me, my kids, and my car. I dont say hi to everyone I see, but the people that I see almost everyday, yes, I do. Regardless of color.
I don't know you and I live on Putnam and Throop!
Now, I can understand not saying hi to everyone. I can give plenty of instances that I have walked home and some guy has said hi to me.....on several occassions men take saying HI as an invite to converse and attempt to walk me home or pick me up. I just dont want to give anyone the wrong idea. -
welcome ALL people... If you are down for helping keep our area nice WELCOME!!!!
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Anonymous wrote: You want me to register but you call me Andy Rooney?
Sorry, it wasn't supposed to be an insult. It was just something about the style of your post that reminded me of his musings.
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That raises the ancient question: What if the "Hokey Pokey" is really what it's all about?
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Effective immediately; people of all races are hereby forbidden to respond directly to cthecat or Guest.
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Subject: Don't say hello, ... say goodbye
I believe that most of the community feels a little attitude from the whites that are moving into the neighbor"hood". We as a community collectively have maintained "our hello be friendly commitee", that basically keeps the neighbor"hood" harmonious and welcoming. However, we are dealing with a race that has a history of stealing the very land of which they reside, living amongst the very people that they enslaved, continuing just as their lineage would displaying evil behaviour which includes pretending that others outside their own race do not exist. So in other words, don't waste your breath on a HELLO because if the gentrification of the neighborhood continues at this pace ... most of us will be saying GOODBYE to whitey.
This was a response from an email I sent to a friend posing the same question as the topic mentioned. Very interesting and possibly true. -
Well I hope that was fun for you, "guest" at 7:14. Just remember to wash your hands.
Now back amongst the human race, people energized by Barack Obama's securing of the Democratic Nomination are sniffing the air for the scent of change, and are wiping their feet of the putrid remains of "old time hate" and negativity.
P.S. Sorry Pithanon, I couldn't help myself. -
Yes Putnam, like you, I behold with wonder and profound gratitude that evidence of the Great Turning.
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... most of us will be saying GOODBYE to whitey.
--- GuestHistorically, Bedford Stuyvesant in Brooklyn was a stable working and middle class neighborhood with a solid residential core of brownstone row houses. As recently as the early 1950s, it was a racially and economically mixed community with a comfortable standard of living. Between 1940 and 1960, its population shifted from 75% white to almost 85% African American and Latino. Once the neighborhood's racial composition began to change, banks undertook a policy of "redlining," refusing to grant mortgages or loans to the area's residents and businesses.
http://www.prattcenter.net/cdc-bsrc.php
Bedford Stuyvesant's African American home owners are high on the list of groups impacted by the present sub-prime mortgage loan crisis.
Ahhh, the "good old days" --- it's only what we forget that makes them seem so. -
_____________ wrote: [quote=Putnam-denizen]Has anyone found this thread to be anything more than predictable? But electrons are cheap!
Quantum mechanically speaking, that statement is inherently inaccurate. By the Heisenberg Uncertainty Principle, the extent to which you can know an electron's price is inversely proportional to the extent to which you can know its usefulness in promoting meaningful online discussion.
More specifically, if you define P to be price and U to be usefulness, the Uncertainty Principle states that (using the prefix d to identify the SPREAD of values, highlighting the inherent "fuzzy" nature of quantum measurements):
the product (dP)(dU) >= h/(2Pi) where h is Planck's constant of proportionality between a photon's energy and frequency.
So that there is a fixed limit to how accurately one can measure such things.
Quantum mechanically speaking, your statement may be inherently inaccurate.
Putnam's assertion may be informed by another level of measurement that transcends the limitations of Heisenberg's uncertainty principle.
The limitation you suggest is only a reflection of the kinds of observation you can make. The physical description of the world and the value we attach to what is described changes radically when we observe more things.
Like all scientific facts, yours' presupposes that the observers are in a common state of consciousness whose legitimacy is determined by their agreement or social contract. The legitimacy accorded any scientific theory is a sociological matter. In fact, one interpretation of quantum physics is that physical reality does not objectively exist independent of the participating observers.
That said, you must base your assessment of what constitutes accuracy, value, and meaning, and agree with the definitions of electron, price, spread, and usefulness, as supplied and measured by the immutable subjective reality that is Putnam's opinion. -
I believe that most of the community feels a little attitude from the whites that are moving into the neighbor"hood". We as a community collectively have maintained "our hello be friendly commitee", that basically keeps the neighbor"hood" harmonious and welcoming. However, we are dealing with a race that has a history of stealing the very land of which they reside, living amongst the very people that they enslaved, continuing just as their lineage would displaying evil behaviour which includes pretending that others outside their own race do not exist. So in other words, don't waste your breath on a HELLO because if the gentrification of the neighborhood continues at this pace ... most of us will be saying GOODBYE to whitey.
I have two problems with this post.
1. You're accusing white folks moving into B-S of having attitude, while in the same breath you exhibit some serious attitude yourself. Dealing with a race that has a history of stealing etc etc etc? Evil behavior?
Are you serious? As a white person I am wondering what I am supposed to do with the fact that you think I am or have a strong potential for evil
(evil! you actually used the word evil!)
because I am white. I know racism is evil--I see strong evidence of the evils of racism almost every day. Because I believe that racism is evil, I work really hard on my own (inevitable) racism. I believe that we all should.
What are we all going to do as a people if that self-awareness can't that be a two-way street?
2. More than half of the people on my particular block are black homeowners who are actively gentrifying Bed Stuy. They have a lot more money than I do, are much more excited about good restaurants and wine stores, and actually need amenities like dry cleaners. Their property values are rising, they are picking up trash, collecting photographs of the drug dealers, calling 311 left and right and getting upset over loud music... and they are not "whitey."
(again, like the "evil"--I can't get over the fact that you actually are saying "whitey." I know racism exists, but damn if this damning a whole race thing isn't hypocritical and counterproductive if your goal is to actually stop racism...) -
"Andy Rooney" wrote: [
Wow. Just wow... <smh>
1. You're accusing white folks moving into B-S of having attitude, while in the same breath you exhibit some serious attitude yourself. Dealing with a race that has a history of stealing etc etc etc? Evil behavior?
Are you serious? As a white person I am wondering what I am supposed to do with the fact that you think I am or have a strong potential for evil
1) The land we are sitting on was violently forcefully and evilly stolen by white people.
2) White people not only stole our ancestors and put them in slavery and robbed them of their families and culture but then brought them here and had them build this entire country and fight in their evil wars only to turn around and promise 40 acres and a mule and then take it back. Lets also keep in mind that all the natural riches of Africa were raped and pillaged by white people as well.
3) Christopher Columbus(white) was an evil and violent man who stole many many lands from indigenous people all around the Caribbean and americas. Then the Jesuits finished the job violently forcing people to abandon their religions and convert to christianity or die.(evil)
4) White people tried to kill off the remaining Indian population by giving them smallpox infected blankets.(evil)
5) Margaret Sanger(white) founded the eugenics movement aka planned parenthood designed to kill off "undesirable" populations.(evil)
6) white people ran the evil Tuskeegee experiment
7) white people stole our music and renamed it rock and roll
8) white people raped our ancestors yet still invented the one drop rule (evil)
I can keep going for pages and pages and I will if need be. -
Wow back. Just wow. Right back at you.
The events you list are all atrocities. You will not get any argument from me that racism doesn't exist, that shameful events like Tuskeegee never happened, or that modernism carved up the world into haves and have nots in a brutal way, and that the colonizers who did all the terrible things you list were mostly white.
But what you seem to be saying is that these terrible things are a function of whiteness. And if that's what you're saying, well, that's racist. You're looking at a whole huge group of people and assigning a bunch of negative stereotypes based on the color of their skin alone.
I am the same color as the people who killed all the Indians. But I never killed any Indians. Nobody on this forum, I think, has. It's just as racist for you to assume that I am an evil Indian Killer than it is for me to assume that you are going to Rape My Woman or whatever.
That shit is backwards and hateful, and you seem to think you have a right to think hateful things about a whole group of people, but do you? It certainly won't get any of us anywhere. I want to see racism done, over, in my lifetime. It hurts me and it hurts the whole human family. And we will never get there if you think it's OK to hate because people have hated in the past.
Bad things happen all the time, but nobody's killing Indians or owning slaves (in America) anymore, and we all have a lot more agency about the horrors we see every day. Just about everybody I know--of any color--is not only aware of the horrors of the past that you describe, but works as actively as they know how to make the present and the future better.
What do you get out of continuing to nurse wounds that are up to hundreds of years old? Why not focus on making today the best, most equitable and loving place you can? Wouldn't that be better than trying to hold me responsible for things that happened long before either of us was born?
Institutional racism is real and insidious, but you have just as much of a role to play in it as I do, and you are doing a lot to keep it alive right now.
I think it's important to call out racism wherever and whenever it happens. I don't hate you because of the color of your skin. Why do you hate me because of the color of my skin? What's the benefit to you? -
You got some kinda nerve trying to claim that citing HISTORY is "racism". The fact remains that white people and nobody else but white people did all those things and many more and are STILL doing them today plus NOTHING has been done to make up for the wrongs of the past nor level the playing field. Want me to get more current? The KKK is still alive and well. The Jena 6. Sean Bell. The poor father in long island who got locked up for defending his property from racist white kids attacking his son. The doctor who just got caught reusing syringes on black patients. NYPD stop and frisk policies(oh yeah but you wouldn't know anything about that because you're white :roll: ). I never said I hated you. Stop whining and twisting words(2 more things your people seem to be very gifted at). Sorry hun but until the playing field is LEVEL people are going to RIGHTFULLY feel the way they feel. Now run along and enjoy your white privilege and don't run into too many scary black people.
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...So let me see if I have this right...
....So you're saying that there's been 500 years of slavery, forced resettlement of Native Americans, and racial injustices dating back to the conquistadors -- but if we all just say "howdy" to each other on the streets, that will make up for the whole thing?
If this is in fact what you're saying, I suspect some may strongly disagree that that would suffice. If it's NOT what you're saying, then I need someone to connect the dots for me as to what one has to do with the other. -
queencallipygos wrote: ...So let me see if I have this right...
"andey rooney" was whining about how could people say whites have a history of evil and theft and i answered
....So you're saying that there's been 500 years of slavery, forced resettlement of Native Americans, and racial injustices dating back to the conquistadors -- but if we all just say "howdy" to each other on the streets, that will make up for the whole thing?
If this is in fact what you're saying, I suspect some may strongly disagree that that would suffice. If it's NOT what you're saying, then I need someone to connect the dots for me as to what one has to do with the other.
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Anonymous wrote: [quote=queencallipygos]...So let me see if I have this right...
"andey rooney" was whining about how could people say whites have a history of evil and theft and i answered
....So you're saying that there's been 500 years of slavery, forced resettlement of Native Americans, and racial injustices dating back to the conquistadors -- but if we all just say "howdy" to each other on the streets, that will make up for the whole thing?
If this is in fact what you're saying, I suspect some may strongly disagree that that would suffice. If it's NOT what you're saying, then I need someone to connect the dots for me as to what one has to do with the other.
forget a hi or hello doesn't do a thing
Ahhhh, okay -- you misunderstood what he said. He wasn't saying "whites don't have a history of evil and theft," he was saying "evil and theft are not all that there is to the white race."
And I agree. The Caucasian race does not have a lock on atrocities. In fact, EVERY race has a history of violence and ethnic hatred and atrocities.
* Before English, Dutch, and Spanish slave boats took Africans to the new world as slaves, those Africans had been captured by -- other Africans. One tribe or nation would go to war with the other.
* The Japanese, when they first came to Japan, marginalized a group, the Ainu, who had been there first.
* The Maya went to war with other nations around its territory, wiping them out in the process.
* Even today -- in the clashes between the Tsutsi and Hutu in Rwanda, there weren't any white men involved that I can recall...
So yes, there's a history of violence among white people. But there is also a history of violence among black people, among Asian people, among Latin American people, among Australian Aboriginal people....basically, there is a history of violence among PEOPLE, period.
And that's what Andy Rooney was trying to say to you, was that claiming that the violence was ONLY indicative of white people was incorrect. Because...well, it is. It's unfortunate, yes -- but so is any violence among any people. Singling out one group and saying they are the cause of all violence only promotes more violence. -
I thought people weren't going to respond to "guest." :alien:
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queencallipygos wrote:
I didn't misoverstand a thing. Weak cop out to mention Rwanda. Why don't you google how Belgium masterminded the Rwanda thing and then come back and speak on it. The fact remains white people have committed more genocide and theft than any other people on the face of the planet. Its not even cute how you try to whitewash it. Deal with it. Thats the stock you come from. Right the wrongs your ancestors did.
Ahhhh, okay -- you misunderstood what he said. He wasn't saying "whites don't have a history of evil and theft," he was saying "evil and theft are not all that there is to the white race."
And I agree. The Caucasian race does not have a lock on atrocities. In fact, EVERY race has a history of violence and ethnic hatred and atrocities.
* Before English, Dutch, and Spanish slave boats took Africans to the new world as slaves, those Africans had been captured by -- other Africans. One tribe or nation would go to war with the other.
* The Japanese, when they first came to Japan, marginalized a group, the Ainu, who had been there first.
* The Maya went to war with other nations around its territory, wiping them out in the process.
* Even today -- in the clashes between the Tsutsi and Hutu in Rwanda, there weren't any white men involved that I can recall...
So yes, there's a history of violence among white people. But there is also a history of violence among black people, among Asian people, among Latin American people, among Australian Aboriginal people....basically, there is a history of violence among PEOPLE, period.
And that's what Andy Rooney was trying to say to you, was that claiming that the violence was ONLY indicative of white people was incorrect. Because...well, it is. It's unfortunate, yes -- but so is any violence among any people. Singling out one group and saying they are the cause of all violence only promotes more violence. -
Anonymous wrote: [quote=queencallipygos]
I didn't misoverstand a thing. Weak cop out to mention Rwanda. Why don't you google how Belgium masterminded the Rwanda thing and then come back and speak on it. The fact remains white people have committed more genocide and theft than any other people on the face of the planet. Its not even cute how you try to whitewash it. Deal with it. Thats the stock you come from. Right the wrongs your ancestors did.
Ahhhh, okay -- you misunderstood what he said. He wasn't saying "whites don't have a history of evil and theft," he was saying "evil and theft are not all that there is to the white race."
And I agree. The Caucasian race does not have a lock on atrocities. In fact, EVERY race has a history of violence and ethnic hatred and atrocities.
* Before English, Dutch, and Spanish slave boats took Africans to the new world as slaves, those Africans had been captured by -- other Africans. One tribe or nation would go to war with the other.
* The Japanese, when they first came to Japan, marginalized a group, the Ainu, who had been there first.
* The Maya went to war with other nations around its territory, wiping them out in the process.
* Even today -- in the clashes between the Tsutsi and Hutu in Rwanda, there weren't any white men involved that I can recall...
So yes, there's a history of violence among white people. But there is also a history of violence among black people, among Asian people, among Latin American people, among Australian Aboriginal people....basically, there is a history of violence among PEOPLE, period.
And that's what Andy Rooney was trying to say to you, was that claiming that the violence was ONLY indicative of white people was incorrect. Because...well, it is. It's unfortunate, yes -- but so is any violence among any people. Singling out one group and saying they are the cause of all violence only promotes more violence.
....Personally, my ancestors were starved out of Ireland by the English government. So they didn't do any wrongs. Am I exempt? -
queencallipygos wrote:
Irish racist too. Sometimes even more racist than other white people.
....Personally, my ancestors were starved out of Ireland by the English government. So they didn't do any wrongs. Am I exempt? -
Anonymous wrote: [quote=queencallipygos]
Irish racist too. Sometimes even more racist than other white people.
....Personally, my ancestors were starved out of Ireland by the English government. So they didn't do any wrongs. Am I exempt?
So you're already decided what I'm like because of my race.
....Isn't that....racism? -
"I would never join any club, that would have me as a member."
--- Groucho Marx
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queencallipygos wrote:
last time i checked irish isn't a race :roll:
So you're already decided what I'm like because of my race.
....Isn't that....racism? -
Anonymous wrote: [quote=queencallipygos]
last time i checked irish isn't a race :roll:
So you're already decided what I'm like because of my race.
....Isn't that....racism?
But "white" is. -
Sigh. Why are any of you engaging with this? It makes the original poster seem really intelligent.
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