Another juvenile street pee-er!

brooklynpotter wrote: i would like to comment on this from my vast experience in knowing men: they like to pee outside. this has nothing to do with the topic at hand because little boys don't know this yet. but. the men i have known have often gotten a kick from knowing they can pee anywhere, esp outside.

this is not about hating men. i love men. i just hate that peeing outside is something that they think is cool.

I think that perhaps you are hanging out with the wrong men.

Because dogs pee outside then adults or kids should be able to do it too? It's not like dogs have any other option. My dogs can't go use the bathroom in Starbucks or Barnes and Noble. So comparing dogs and people peeing outside doesn't make much sense.

acceptable peeing in street behavior - between two parked cars.

above allowable only when the kid really really has to go, and no convenient and certain public restroom available.

the kid spraying onto a parked car from the sidewalk was wrong.

this city does suck for use of business bathrooms though. big giant chains and hotels are the only sure-fire public facilities. it doesn't even occur to me that smaller mom-pop shops will let me into theirs.

caseopele wrote: Because dogs pee outside then adults or kids should be able to do it too? It's not like dogs have any other option. My dogs can't go use the bathroom in Starbucks or Barnes and Noble. So comparing dogs and people peeing outside doesn't make much sense.

Dogs do have other options. They could pee and shit on their owner's yards. If you don't have a yard - maybe you should not have a dog. Dog owners complaining about little kids peeing in the street in an emergency is a little hypocritical.

Old Time Brooklyn wrote: [quote=Jamzer]Wow - a dog owner complaining about a kid peeing in the street. Just a little bit of irony in my opinion. Is dog urine that much less disgusting? At least no kid has ever taken a shit on my sidewalk and failed to clean it up. In my jaded opinion (parent and not a dog owner) a little kid's wee wee is less of a problem than dogs pissing and crapping all over the place.

Yeah, it's really funny to me as there are so many posts about kids and restaurants and bars and people bring up "My dog's not allowed there!" and they compare kids to dogs...well, here you go: if your dog can piss outside so can anyone else.
To answer Jamzer, a dog owner or parent should clean up the mess if their dog or child takes a shit on your sidewalk. Absolutely, and legally.

Now, dogs and children are NOT the same thing. "if your dog can piss outside so can anyone else" - How about if your dog can be neutered, so can anyone else? How about if your dog can wear a choke chain for training, so can my children? The government provides for education of our children, would your position be that they should also provide for the training of our dogs? Hmm, perhaps that wouldn't be such a bad idea!

Jamzer wrote: For what it is worth - kids should not eat out of dog bowls either.

Eh, I'm probably OK with that one.

armchair_warrior wrote: in fact my working class friends last week pee between two dumpsters while i went inside a mcdonalds to pee, they finish first and laugh at me for taking so long.

So you are saying working class people piss all over the streets?

Piss on that!

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Yesterday walking home I realized that there is enough piss on these sidewalks from the dogs, we don't need human piss out there, too. This is disgusting.

Although just about on par with the day I was walking up 7th Ave. and heard a boy screaming at his sister at the top of his lungs (in front of a parent no less) "You fucking bitch!!" The mother had no reaction whatsoever.

Somehow I made it through a very long and productive childhood without peeing on the sidewalk.

How about some rules:
1. Go before you leave the house.
2. No loading up on drinks while out.
3. If we stop somewhere for a drink (or a meal), then we go before we leave there.

Is it that hard?

As the great Carnivorous noted in a different thread, this was picked up by Gowanus Lounge, which once again named names. Dailyheights may commence doing the happy dance, a new leaf has been overturned.

eggcream wrote: I agree comparing kids peeing to dogs peeing is absurd and the comment about a yard equally so.

Kids parents are responsible for getting Jr. to pee before leaving the house, restaurant or whatever. If there is an emergency at least do it with discretion between parked cars, behind a tree and not waving said penis wildly about.

Dog owner?

Jamzer wrote: (why is it nobody here feels bad for the sanitation crews that have to handle the dog piss soaked garbage?) all over town.

FWIW, I feel very bad for sanitation workers that have to handle dog piss soaked garbage, and have lamented this in the past. As have others. *shrug* That is fucked up and shouldn't happen. People ought not let their dogs piss on trash bags, remember someone has to pick those up. With gloves, but still.

caseopele wrote: I've lived in Brooklyn for almost 26 years and never once have I come across a patch of sidewalk that reaked of dog piss. But every summer the stench of human piss in some areas is overwhelming. Maybe some people who have never had a dog can't tell the difference.

I have often found areas used for human piss pots, but not dog. *shrug* There is a stairway down right past me on Nostrand and St John's with a sign saying "DON'T PISS HERE" that fucking reeks. The sign is _not_ for dogs.

Having said that, the dog shit has GOT to stop. The way to stop it isn't to get rid of the dogs, however. I'm pretty sure the fine was just increased from $100 to $250. Have those fuckers handing out piddly assed $65 parking tickets spend a little time racking up the big bucks on $250 dog poop fines.

I know it's shocking to think that not every neighborhood has the amenities of the Slope. And that not everyone can afford a place with a yard. Thousands of people like me adopt rescue or shelter dogs, with no yard to be had! If we don't adopt those dogs what do you think will happen to them? They'll go live on a farm where they can chase rabbits all day?

caseopele wrote: [quote=Jamzer]Dogs do have other options. They could pee and shit on their owner's yards. If you don't have a yard - maybe you should not have a dog.

I don't have a yard and I have 2 dogs. I can't afford a place with a yard so maybe I shouldn't have my dogs? The oldest dog was tied up outside my building by his owner because her husband was beating the shit out of him. If I didn't take him he would have gone to the ACC. My other dog was adopted from Hearts and Homes before they were shut down. The director was charged with 11 counts of animal cruelty after a raid turned up emaciated and filthy dogs. How well would my dogs have fared if I hadn't taken them in? German Shepherd and pitbull mixes aren't among the most "desirable" dogs at shelters.

Jamzer wrote: Yes - dogs have other options. How about peeing in the dog runs? Maybe dogs can be trained to pee into the sewer drains? I don't really care, but if piss on the street bothers you so freaking much you maybe should not have a dog!?!?!?!

Well, that's a little more reasonable than your first comment. But I live in Crown Heights where dog runs aren't exactly plentiful. My younger dog was trained to pee in the gutter though sometimes she can't quite make it and hits the curb. My older dog isn't allowed to pee on flowers, houses, or garbage bags. My point has been that dogs do have to pee outside and people don't have to because they have many other options. I've lived in Brooklyn for almost 26 years and never once have I come across a patch of sidewalk that reaked of dog piss. But every summer the stench of human piss in some areas is overwhelming. Maybe some people who have never had a dog can't tell the difference.

Jamzer wrote: By the way - I live in Park Slope.

I know it's shocking to think that not every neighborhood has the amenities of the Slope. And that not everyone can afford a place with a yard. Thousands of people like me adopt rescue or shelter dogs, with no yard to be had! If we don't adopt those dogs what do you think will happen to them? They'll go live on a farm where they can chase rabbits all day?

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The point of this thread was the OP, a dog owner, expressed shock or annoyance or whatever that a little kid pee'd onto the street while they were taking their dog for a walk to, I have to assume, take a pee on the street. I pointed out the irony. I suggested that if pee bothered a dog owner and they let that dog pee on the sidewalk then maybe they should not have a dog. Of course dogs have to pee on the street - fine. My comments were directed at dog owners who let their fidos pee on the street and post about how unsanitary and disgusting for a little kid to do the same thing. If I did not express this perfectly well, then I am sorry. If this leads you to think that I believe dogs that don't have yards should be put down, that is your reading comprehension issue, not mine.

I applaud anyone and everyone, even you, that rescues dogs. You have to have a big heart. I love dogs. Clearly a dog is better off living in an apartment than getting put down, but that is besides the point.

If you think there is more human piss than dog piss on the sidewalk, then that might be a problem on your block, but it is absolutely not the case on mine. That sticky, black, dried out puddle infront of the gate to my building that has been there for two days is dog piss, not kiddie piss. I can't walk down my block without looking at my feet because of dog shit, not kiddie shit.

Feel free to continue to twist my words and create a controversy where none exists. I just don't understand it.