Scary neighbor...police or landlord?
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I'm sorry, but why didn't you call the police YESTERDAY while he was trying to force his way into your apartment?
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it was actually Sunday when the entire thing happened (less the poo/door hitting) and if you read through the thread you'll see that this has been asked and answered already.
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I know the first time was Sunday - but it sounded from your post yesterday that he was trying to get in then too (i.e. "door hitting") and I still think you needed to call the police while this was actually going on. Your reasoning for not doing so is weak, in my opinion, and I still can't believe you still have yet to call them.
But good luck. -
i don't think he was trying to get in yesterday, it sounded more like something out of frustration. I didn't actually see him hit it, so I guess it could have been "accidental" as it was only once...either way, he wasnt attempting to break it down from what it seemed like, more like just proving a point.
I'll let everyone know how it goes with the report. -
I'm still not quite sure why you're making excuses for this guy?
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I don't think she's making excuses for the guy... so much as explaining why she's been reluctant to take action against him.
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booklaw wrote: I don't think she's making excuses for the guy... so much as explaining why she's been reluctant to take action against him.
I'd like to suggest that if some part of the reservation against calling the cops on this psycho is that the OP and her bf may have some not-so-legal stuff/substances on the premises - just move/hide said stuff elsewhere - THEN call cops.
But OP, you've got to call. Even if you big boyfriend can tear this psycho apart in seconds all that does is get your boyfriend locked up.
And unfortunately the only way anyone walks if they throw the guy a beating is only after the guy has laid his hands on you or your boyfriend - and who wants that? -
BoogieKnight wrote: [quote=booklaw]I don't think she's making excuses for the guy... so much as explaining why she's been reluctant to take action against him.
I'd like to suggest that if some part of the reservation against calling the cops on this psycho is that the OP and her bf may have some not-so-legal stuff/substances on the premises - just move/hide said stuff elsewhere - THEN call cops.
But OP, you've got to call. Even if you big boyfriend can tear this psycho apart in seconds all that does is get your boyfriend locked up.
And unfortunately the only way anyone walks if they throw the guy a beating is only after the guy has laid his hands on you or your boyfriend - and who wants that?
HA I didn't even think about that but no, we don't have anything (we're too lame for all that.) I'm going to call, but its a bit scary to think that he might become more enraged or something if he knows the police are involved. I don't actually think he's home today so he might not even see the cops when they come. I appreciate everyone's input, it has made me feel a little more validated. -
call the cops. if he is not home they will know about the situation and he will not know that the cops know.
he will continue harassing you until he is forced to stop. The police are the only [legal] way to force him to stop.
call the cops. -
Attempting and succeeding at entering your apartment (even if he did not get all the way in) IS a crime and should be reported to the police along with the continued (and historical) harrassment. Do not blow this off. That will only make him think he can get away with this because you will tolerate it. He must see negative consequences for his actions and the more history the police have on this guy the better. He sounds like he is escalating so do not take any chances. Involve the police and your landlord and institute a no tolerance policy. And for pete's sake lock your door (deadbolt) at all times and invest in mace.
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Subject: These posts are scary, call 911 and stop posting about it.
Guest1234, you are really worrying a lot of people over your posts. I believe you need to assess whether New York City is the place for you to live.
Being unable to deal with a burglary is disturbing. (Yes, if your neighbor, even if he walked through the door of your apartment, without permission, with the intent to commit a crime (obvious from the display of anger and violence). It actually sounds like you are probably not telling us the full story here, no offense.
If you are telling the truth, what your neighbor did is called BURGLARY. I can guarantee you, when you call the police, they will ARREST this man immediately, as this is a serious felony. You will have to sign an affidavit of the event, but this should be enough to prosecute. This will also be justification for an eviction.
In order to live in New York, you need to be able to discern between a minor offense (spitting in the hallway or making noise) and BURGLARY. Take a stand to protect yourself, it's a NYC tradition.
Also, if this man breaks into your apartment, especially at night, you can use all force necessary to stop him. You do not need to retreat in your own home.
As I said, sounds like the events you described are not probably not accurate, as no reasonable person under the circumstances would just initially laugh off a BURGLARY as a strange event. Also, a reasonable person under your boyfriends circumstances would certainly not leave his girlfriend in a dwelling with a future imminent threat of force against you right across the hall. Please, this sounds like it's made up stuff.
Charlesbklyn
Warning: This is not legal advise, just the interpretation and opinion of the law in New York by a non-lawyer. -
please keep us posted. we are all very concerned!
(and please say you called the cops ...)
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It is relatively easy for well-meaning people to advise the OP to call the cops, because we don't live across the hall from the very large and angry crazy person.
There have been any number of women beaten and/or killed in this city (and many more in other cities) by angry and crazy men (usually ex-boyfriends or husbands) in spite of arrests, prosecutions, orders of protection, etc.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, and cannot ensure that a bad guy will be promptly arrested (the cops may decide to give him a warning rather than making an immediate arrest) and then incarcerated (he could easily be out on bail after a day or two, or he may not ultimately be convicted).
If the OP decides it is better to let sleeping dogs lie, and to stay out of the way of her neighbor, we cannot assume that she would be any better off going to the cops and making him that much angrier and crazier.
In my opinion, her best course of action would be to move, as quickly as possible. If that is not possible, then stay at the boyfriend's place for a while, and then maintain a very low profile at her own place. -
booklaw wrote: It is relatively easy for well-meaning people to advise the OP to call the cops, because we don't live across the hall from the very large and angry crazy person.
while I agree with you on a lot of this, I really think that the police need to be involved. while the wheels of justice do CRAWL and, unfortunately, sometimes fail, I think that the OP would be better protected by not only getting out of the situation but ALSO preventing anyone else from getting into it. as in: get the fucker locked up.
There have been any number of women beaten and/or killed in this city (and many more in other cities) by angry and crazy men (usually ex-boyfriends or husbands) in spite of arrests, prosecutions, orders of protection, etc.
The wheels of justice turn slowly, and cannot ensure that a bad guy will be promptly arrested (the cops may decide to give him a warning rather than making an immediate arrest) and then incarcerated (he could easily be out on bail after a day or two, or he may not ultimately be convicted).
If the OP decides it is better to let sleeping dogs lie, and to stay out of the way of her neighbor, we cannot assume that she would be any better off going to the cops and making him that much angrier and crazier.
In my opinion, her best course of action would be to move, as quickly as possible. If that is not possible, then stay at the boyfriend's place for a while, and then maintain a very low profile at her own place. -
You're right... she should move away and simultaneously report him to the cops.
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i have to say, i'm in agreement.
as you've read in my postings about my psycho neighbor, there is little to be done. i;ve called the police, we're gone to mediation paid for by the board, the board knows (and, essentially, i am her landlord because i am an owner.) there is no evicting her; she's section 8, rent stabilized and on disability. essentially, she can f** with me all she wants and nothing can be done.
and she lowers my property value, and i have to disclose all of this if i want to sell. and i would LOVE to sell, because it's really the only way to get rid of her -
Thank you! What I was saying back on page 1....
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