Open Container violation in Prospect Park
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It sucks to get ticketed for something like that, especially when there are brazen offenders on all sides getting off scot free, but who doesn't know to disguise their booze before they whip it out in public? This is kid stuff.
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It is actually a good law. Parks are not bars. Do your drinking at home or at a bar.
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Jamzer wrote: It is actually a good law. Parks are not bars. Do your drinking at home or at a bar.
This world is all topsy turvy.
Drinking in parks.
Babies in bars.
Get me off this crazy thing. -
King without a crown wrote: Sounds to me like the smug attitude may have played a role in one of the Officers comments and the issuance of a summonses. "ummmm Officer, they're drinking over there too, why aren't you giving them a ticket"?.... " hey it's just wine, why don't you bother the real criminals"...... "my taxes pay your salary"
Ah yes, Courtesy, Professionalism, Respect indeed. If only everyone could ticket people they didn't like.
On a side note, I was raised never to question a police officer and to always be polite which I am, whether I deserve the ticket or not (and yeah, drinking in the park..you deserve a ticket).
We were raised that way because we learned early on that police officers are unpredictable, easy to anger and people to be feared.
All it takes is one bad experience to learn that they are not there to actually protect you. -
daver wrote:
This world is all topsy turvy.
Drinking in parks.
Babies in bars.
Get me off this crazy thing.
Its obvious that people drink in parks because they don't want to be a bad influence on all those babies in the bars... that plus the fact that babies make bars smell like rotten milk, and I'm lactose intolerant, double so when its rotten. I'm sure many feel the same way. Obi Won, Prospect Park is our only hope. -
Subject: Re: "Open Container" violation in Prospect Park
botgirl wrote: So, eight of us were having a very quiet picnic in Prospect Park today near the Picnic House. We had one bottle of wine with us, along with a lot of food and other beverages.
I'll catch up on thread in a sec, but -- was this between 3-5 hill part byt he tennis house? I think I saw this go down and was pretty confused because liekyou I saw others with open containers nearby too.
A group of 4 cops (3 in those tiny cop vehicles and 1 on a segway) pulled up at the Picnic House about 30 feet away from us. After 20 minutes, the cops approached us and demanded IDs without saying why. I gave them mine, and the cop sarcastically said, "You're an organ donor. I feel safer now." I have no idea what his point was. -
Subject: Re: "Open Container" violation in Prospect Park
josseleen wrote: [quote=botgirl]So, eight of us were having a very quiet picnic in Prospect Park today near the Picnic House. We had one bottle of wine with us, along with a lot of food and other beverages.
I'll catch up on thread in a sec, but -- was this between 3-5 hill part byt he tennis house? I think I saw this go down and was pretty confused because liekyou I saw others with open containers nearby too.
A group of 4 cops (3 in those tiny cop vehicles and 1 on a segway) pulled up at the Picnic House about 30 feet away from us. After 20 minutes, the cops approached us and demanded IDs without saying why. I gave them mine, and the cop sarcastically said, "You're an organ donor. I feel safer now." I have no idea what his point was.
Hi there,
We were directly in front of the picnic house (which isn't too far from the tennis house). I wonder if you saw us. There were definitely a lot of others around with far more alcohol open than what we had--our one half-drunk bottle.
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pretty sure it was you guys. Looked like the cops were finishing up giving tickets, there were two people being written tickets byt he cops, one 3-wheeler cop trolley and some people behind the others near a picnic table.
You all looked so miserable I felt really bad -- it obviously wasn't a fight and there was no mess around you. Also, the cops' stance was really arrogant. I know that sounds weird, but I could tell from far away that they were taking pleasure in picking on you. -
Obamanut wrote: [quote=eggcream]Yeah, he's an asshole for doing his job. Everybody should be allowed to do whatever the hell they want. Next time ya need one don't bother calling.
Get with the program, man. In Park Slope, cops should actually apologize for inconveniencing you by ticketing or arresting you when you break the law.
Next time?
After all, they are just lowly civil servants who can't even afford the neighborhood anyway, and everyone knows that the entire world is jealous of Park Slope.
Of course 5-O should apologize. Don't you know that privilege trumps the law. Laws are for the lowly and unwashed masses. -
"ummmm Officer, they're drinking over there too, why aren't you giving them a ticket"?.... " hey it's just wine, why don't you bother the real criminals"...... "my taxes pay your salary"
Bingo!
"You all looked so miserable I felt really bad"
Seriously? Over a 25.00 ticket?
"Also, the cops' stance was really arrogant. I know that sounds weird, but I could tell from far away that they were taking pleasure in picking on you."
How is one supposed to stand? -
eggcream wrote:
With Courtesy, Professionalism and Respect?
How is one supposed to stand?
OP, suck it up and pay the ticket. You broke the law, the cop was a f*cking asshole as they tend to be but that's not a crime. Live and learn. -
filmlover44 wrote: [quote=eggcream]
With Courtesy, Professionalism and Respect?
How is one supposed to stand?
OP, suck it up and pay the ticket. You broke the law, the cop was a f*cking asshole as they tend to be but that's not a crime. Live and learn.
This. -
eggcream wrote: "You all looked so miserable I felt really bad"
They looked miserable for having their picnic ruined by a couple arrogant cops and for being singled out without proper explanation.
Seriously? Over a 25.00 ticket?
"Also, the cops' stance was really arrogant. I know that sounds weird, but I could tell from far away that they were taking pleasure in picking on you."
How is one supposed to stand?
They are supposed to act like they are doing thier job, not picking on people. I think the level of respect a cop SHOULD treat someone with should be commensurate to their infraction -- and drinking a bottle of wine in the park around many many others doing the same certainly doesn't warrant the sort of schadenfreude the cops were exibiting.
Knock off the sanctimonious attitude. -
You keep calling the Cops assholes, but other then one making an organ donor joke, and the alledged arrogant stances, I fail to see why they were assholes. It's pretty common knowledge that you cannot drink or posess an open container of alcohol in NYC or NYC Parks, unless theres some type of event permit. These are simple rules to adhere to. If you take a chance and intentionally break the law and just so happened to get caught, then I would suggest simply paying the fine. If you don't like the Laws you can:
1) Either lobby to change them or
2) Drink in your home or a Bar
If you don't like the Police doing their jobs then you can:
1) Patrol the parks yourself or
2) Become a Cop and set an example of how you think Police should behave
What do you think the Park would be like if they lifted the ban on alcohol? Do you think there'd be drunk idiots wondering around the park harassing families and their children? How about beer and liquor bottles strewn throughout the meadow? Do you think the Crime rate in the Park would rise? -
I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination! -
MeredithB wrote: I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
Yea, this is a good idea.
Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination!
look, there are two options.
1) pay the $25
2) show up to court and contest the ticket. the ticketing officer even said he was intentionally vague on the ticket. he probably left information off so you can get out of it.
Next time, put the wine in a juice jug. -
Oh, I like the cops doing their jobs, I want them to do their jobs (which is a whole nother issue). I want more cops and I think that the cops deserve a raise.
What I don't like is when OUR cops don't behave with Courtesy, Professionalism and Respect and unfortunately, this occurs quite frequently and more often than not.
Would you like a list of how NYPD cops can improve their assholish reputation? That might make a good thread. -
MeredithB wrote: I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
It doesn't matter why they were singled out. They were BREAKING THE LAW and doing it openly. Nobody will care why they were singled out.
Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination! -
I'll drink to that.
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MeredithB wrote: I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
Please continue with this line of reasoning, my coworkers and I are having a ball reading these.
Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination!
I have a hunch why they were singled out - they were flagrantly breaking the law!
Rumor has it that the police hold some bias towards flagrant lawbreakers.
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MeredithB wrote: I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
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Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination!
This is the only board where you can turn wine into whine. -
Hamilton wrote: [quote=MeredithB]I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
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Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination!
This is the only board where you can turn wine into whine.
Kneeslapper. -
filmlover44 wrote: [quote=MeredithB]I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
It doesn't matter why they were singled out. They were BREAKING THE LAW and doing it openly. Nobody will care why they were singled out.
Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination!
It's true. If you kill your neighbor and are caught by police and your best friend kills his neighbor and is not caught by police, you still have to go to jail. You don't get off the hook just because some other murderer was not caught. -
raw wrote: [quote=filmlover44][quote=MeredithB]I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
It doesn't matter why they were singled out. They were BREAKING THE LAW and doing it openly. Nobody will care why they were singled out.
Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination!
It's true. If you kill your neighbor and are caught by police and your best friend kills his neighbor and is not caught by police, you still have to go to jail. You don't get off the hook just because some other murderer was not caught.
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Whow ,I didn't know that, I better change my plans. -
vidro3 wrote: [quote=MeredithB]I'd say figure out why you were selectively singled out and sue the police for bias. They must have singled you out for some reason - race, age, etc.
Yea, this is a good idea.
Fight the power! Especially bullshit cops who selectively enforce the law. Selective enforcement is nothing more than discrimination!
look, there are two options.
1) pay the $25
2) show up to court and contest the ticket. the ticketing officer even said he was intentionally vague on the ticket. he probably left information off so you can get out of it.
Next time, put the wine in a juice jug.
Frankly I think this posting cited above says it all..
This is one of those threads that took wings and has gone on way longer than it deserved to fly.
Pay the damn fine and the next time take THREE juice bottles with the wine decanted in to them and have a great ole time. -
yeha pay the fine and then sue the police. Just because a person is breaking the law does not mean there wasn't some type of bias or discrimination. The police often single out people because they don't like something about them.
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MererdithB = Broken Record
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MeredithB wrote: yeha pay the fine and then sue the police. Just because a person is breaking the law does not mean there wasn't some type of bias or discrimination. The police often single out people because they don't like something about them.
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Did you have any situations that you may want to mention. -
why not petition to get the open container laws repealed for public parks and beaches? you broke the law, you don't like the law, why not petition to have it removed? it seems like a rather unpopular law anyway, you'd probably get a lot of willing signers. or another way, is to petition the NYS wine industry to lobby for a wine exemption to the open container law at public parks and beaches.
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I attended the Philharmonic concert in Prospect Park last night. There were wine and even Champagne bottles everywhere! There was no open-bottle/alcohol enforcement that I could see.
I did see one cop, but he was strolling and paying no attention to the dastardly lawbreakers.
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