travel agent recommendations
So i'm looking to take a trip to Europe next year for the big 3-0. I have no idea whether im going to go alone, or with a group, do the eurorail thing, or go only to a few places.
Figured it would be helpful to speak with an agent, do they even have any agents in park slope or elsewhere anymore??
A friend that just went to spain said that she got a cheaper fare using a travel agent then she was able to find online. Not sure if this is true or she got lucky.
Any advice is appreciated, even if its not agent-related.
Figured it would be helpful to speak with an agent, do they even have any agents in park slope or elsewhere anymore??
A friend that just went to spain said that she got a cheaper fare using a travel agent then she was able to find online. Not sure if this is true or she got lucky.
Any advice is appreciated, even if its not agent-related.
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There most certainly are travel agents, I see Liberty Travel locations all the time.
Last year I went to Europe with Contiki tours. The age range is 18-35. So there was a young party MTV type crowd, and then an older more calm down to earth yet still fun crowd. The group was about 40 people. We toured several cities in Spain, France & Italy on a bus. Flew into Madrid, left from Rome--2 weeks. Price a little over $3000, flights & hotels included, and some meals.
I would highly recommend a tour group. It doesn't have to be Contiki, but I recommend it for first-timers. Because the guide will tell you everything-- transportation options, give you foreign language help, help you find banks/atms, etc. You can either stay with the group or branch off & do your own thing. (as long as you get back to the hotels on your own! and also make the tour bus on time before it leaves you!)
It was really really really fun. A life-changing experience. -
article in the Sunday Times:
By MICHELLE HIGGINS
Published: July 27, 2008
NOT long ago, the advent of online travel — allowing travelers to research and book their trips with a few clicks of a mouse — was thought to be a death knell for traditional travel agents. But faced with the increasing cost and unpredictability of travel today, vacationers seem to be returning to the fold.
Twenty-three percent of online leisure travelers in the United States say they would use a good off-line agent if they could find one, according to Forrester Research. And spotting an opportunity, a handful of new Web sites with catchy names like Zicasso and Tripology, have emerged in the last year, offering to act as free matchmaking services for vacationers in search of traditional agents.
On the sites, travelers fill out forms describing the types of trip they’re interested in (say, scuba diving in the Caribbean or a culinary vacation in Tuscany). The sites send those requests to agents who specialize in that region or type of trip. Travelers then receive e-mail alerts with up to three itinerary proposals from competing agents. Compete4yourseat.com, another matchmaking site, helps travelers connect with agents to find lower airfares. Travelers fill out a trip request form on the home page and once an agent bids on their requests, they can log in to view the deal.
Not unlike the online dating world, niche sites have begun to emerge. AdventureLink.com, for example, aims to connect travelers to adventure specialists, whether a tour operator or a travel agent. Though currently in test mode, it has 50,000 trips in its database that customers can search, and it plans to add travel agents this fall.
The new matchmaking services appeal to travelers used to doing Web research — but frustrated with online booking engines — while allowing agents, who have been squeezed by competition from online travel companies and commission cuts in recent years, to expand their reach and connect with new customers.
“We’re combining off-line personal travel expertise with the online world,” said Brian K.Y. Tan, founder and chief executive of Zicasso.com, which went live in March, after a four-month test. Zicasso doesn’t have a large number of agents in its roster. “Our approach is about the quality of the travel companies and agents, not quantity,” said Mr. Tan. Travel agent membership to Zicasso is invitation-only, and over the last two years, Mr. Tan and his wife, Yuchun Ku, say they have personally picked the 150-some agents and tour operators that are listed in the company’s online network under “Explore.” A major requirement, said Mr. Tan: “The agents who are selling that trip to X country need to have traveled there.”
Zicasso forwards trip requests to specialists “whom we feel are the best personalized match,” said Mr. Tan. Companies pay Zicasso a commission when a lead turns into a sale.
Tripology.com, which has been operating in test mode since June of last year, takes a more self-selecting approach. It has more than 7,500 agents who pay for every traveler referral they choose to respond to. While the site reviews each agent’s application before they can receive leads, Tripology operates like an open marketplace. Travel agents “select those trips in which they really feel properly suited to handle and frankly want to handle,” said John T. Peters, Tripology’s chief executive.
The sites plan to keep agents honest by encouraging users to provide feedback, including ratings and comments about agents (think TripAdvisor for travel agents). Tripology.com lets anyone who has used the site to comment on agents who responded. At Zicasso, only travelers who have booked a trip are eligible to write a review.
But does it work? I decided to try to find out, by coming up with two potential vacations — a two-week hiking trip to Patagonia, and a weeklong stay at the Rockhouse hotel or a similar resort in Negril, Jamaica — and then sending my requests to Zicasso and Tripology. (I sent my requests from my personal e-mail address, so that the agents would not know the query came from a reporter for The New York Times.) The results were mixed.
Zicasso took about a day to get back to me about my Negril request. Though the agent recommended a hotel that was not as design-conscious as the Rockhouse — a key element of my trip request — it was less expensive, and the flights from New York were nonstop. A day later, I received an e-mail alert with contact information for another agent who specialized in the Caribbean but was suggesting an itinerary above my budget of $2,000.
In response to my Patagonia trip request, the site sent me some sample itineraries to review and asked for more clarification about my budget and desired activities before offering to put me in touch with specialists.
From Tripology, I promptly received responses from three agents competing for the Patagonia trip. Two of them felt like canned package deals with little detail on hotels and transfers, but they both specified that the options were simply suggestions and could be customized to fit my needs. One response from a boutique adventure tour operator from Dallas, suggesting a 10-day trip at $2,790 a person, arrived less than an hour after I submitted my trip request.
A third agent, from Seattle, sent an enthusiastic note detailing his love for the region, pointing out that he had traveled there, and asking for more details about accommodation preferences. After receiving my response, he sent me two detailed 12-day trip proposals (one for $3,795 a person, the other for $4,349 a person) with descriptions of each hotel, including photos.
The responses for the more specific trip request for a week at the Rockhouse hotel in Negril at a better price were disappointing. One agent recommended a hotel based on TripAdvisor reviews. Another said the Rockhouse hotel was fully booked, when it wasn’t — I called and checked.
Mr. Peters of Tripology said it was possible the Jamaica hotel was fully booked when the agent checked, as hotel reservations can “change by the minute.” As for our trip request for a better vacation rate, he said, “If you’re out trying to see if you can save $10 or $20 just looking for cheap, cheap, cheap that’s not what we’re about. What we’re about is value, and destination and product expertise.” -
jocelyn wrote:
Good description. I know this company and that is a good description.
Last year I went to Europe with Contiki tours. The age range is 18-35. So there was a young party MTV type crowd, and then an older more calm down to earth yet still fun crowd. The group was about 40 people. -
For what it's worth - my wife and I travel internationally twice yearly.
The goal should always be just travel!
How you do it is really a personal choice, and there is no right or wrong - We always do everything ourselves and shun "tours" like the plague 'cause we think independent travel is more fun, and the Internet has every tool you need, and we learn more about where we're going that way, etc, etc.
Also there are "good" tours and "bad "tours" - ugly American syndrome, huge carbon footprint, bad operators, etc - so just be sure it fits your values, expectations and budget. If you're simply interested in a package deal than I think they're fine, and certainly easy.
But whatever you do, please use Trip Advisor to the fullest extent. The information on their boards is great and comes from people who either travel to the location or live there - I happen to be one of their frequent posters. Sign up and ask as many questions as you want, use their search engine, see recommended places, etc.
http://www.tripadvisor.com/
I also would advise against too ambitious of an itinerary - pick 1 or 2 places you really want to visit and spend more quality time in 1 or 2 locations - avoid the "If it's Tuesday It Must Be Belgium" pitfall.
And train travel within Europe is inexpensive and plentiful, you don't need to do Eurorail necessarily. -
what is this "travel agent" you speak of?
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Like LivetoTravel, my wife and I do not do tours. For the same reasons, we no longer do cruises.
We prefer to be able to go where and when we want, and we don't want a "tour leader" lecturing us from the front of the bus about the history of the local attractions.
We instead do our research in Frommer and other printed guides, and in TripAdvisor and other websites.
When we go abroad (unfortunately not as often as LivetoTravel), we tend to pick just a few locations (e.g. Paris and Avignon, or Anchorage, Denali, Homer and Brooks Falls, or Athens, Delphi and Santorini), rent hotel rooms and a car, and sample everything we can at or near each of those locations.
On occasion, when are goals are particularly ambitious, we will use a travel agent who specializes in our destination (e.g. World Travel in Seattle for Alaska, Fantasy Travel in Athens for Greece).
We have loved all of our foreign vacations, without benefit of tour companies or cruises. -
What are you favorite travel sites? I have to go to my brother's wedding in Vancouver in a couple of months and want to get a decent deal. Hotel & air fare. Not thrilled about the woman he is marrying so suddenly but that is another rant.
I usually use hotels.com and cheaptickets.com. Is there anything better? -
Thanks for the advice folks! The only reason why I'd consider a group thing is because I'll be traveling alone, which i'd rather not do.
I know of Contiki, but i want to consider other group travel sites, although i cant think of any and a web search didnt come up with much. Anyone know of any others? I know of one who has an office in the west village, but i cant think of their name (not STA...) -
I used American Express Travel on my last trip. I booked a hotel through them. I'm pretty sure they book group tours -- maybe through their local reps.
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Try GAPadventures for small group tours. The advantages include a guide who coordinates hotels and transport, gives some info on options in each place, but leaves you to do what you choose when there. They also negotiate better rates for the same places, sites, transport as used by the so-called independent travelers who all follow the same lonely planet guides together anyway. The other major advantage is that groups often include many non-Americans so you really get to learn about their country/culture while you travel through another together.
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I second GapAdventures. I'm going on my 4th trip with them this year (hiking in Peru). Traveled to Japan, Bolivia & Chile, Brasil/Uruguay/Argentina with them before. They keep their groups small (12 is the maximum and often it's less) and the tours are catering to more mature people, not the constantly partying MTV crowd that needs to sleep on a bus to keep the cost down.
I've also used TrekAmerica and Kumuka before. TrekAmerica has many tours that include camping for cost saving reasons - depending on where you go this can be fun. Both of these companies also have a maximum of 12 people on the tour.
There's also http://www.adventurecenter.com/, Dragoman, Green Tortoise...
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