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the cleaner intervention - why watch? — Brooklynian

the cleaner intervention - why watch?

these shows are freakin' painful. I dvr'd the cleaner because I thought it was about you know, the cleaner. from la femme nikita, etc. anyway. dumb me watched it after realizing what the scoop was and it was horrible. why do people want to see incessant tragedy?

I've refused to watch intervention since it came out - it just looks like it's a hot mess. I mean, people drinking gallons of generic mouthwash? really? for chrissakes, how is that entertainment?

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  • Actually, I like intervention. The people profiled are usually suffering from bigger problems than their addiction. I'd say that about 80% of the people fall into this catagory. If you can get through the painful scenes with the families that lay out the backstory you usually get to see the real benefit of rehab at the end. Seeing someone completely changed three or four months into their rehab process is pretty uplifting. And the intervention folks provide ongoing updates - good or bad.

    Then there are the other 20% who are just assholes. Many of them end up not having sucessful interventions and reverting back to their old ways or not accepting help anyway. Some of them are worth watching simply for the train wreck aspect. One of the first episodes I watched was like this - it was a child genius named Gabe who never adjusted to adult life and developed a gambling addiction. He wasn't very likeable which made laughing at him feel not as terrible. In the end, his intervention was not sucessful and his parents continued to bankroll his gambling. If you get a chance watch him on YouTube. Its hilarious.

    The Cleaner, I don't get. Even Benjamin Bratt isn't enough to get me to watch that...
  • LOVE Intervention!!!! LOVE IT. If you watch it the right way, (the mean, snarky way) it's the funniest shit on tv. Some of it is sad, but once you get past it, it's a riot!

    My friend and I even created a drinking game to go with it. Every time they do their vice, you drink. If the dad cries, you drink. If they say "no" to the intervention, you drink.

    It's bad....I know.
  • intervention is the same thing every show. 30 minutes of doing drugs/drinking, then 30 minutes of crying. i've seen enough of my friends go through the shit, i don't need to see it on tv.

    i had the same reaction to the cleaner - i thought it was about a guy who goes in after mob hits/murders and "cleans" the bodies/mess up. HAHAHA!!

    i am still horribly addicted to CSI. which has nothing to do with this thread.
  • I am also horribly addicted to CSI (the Vegas one only). Sucks that all the good cast members are slowly leaving the show.

    Actually, as the number of old episodes I haven't seen dwindles, I've started watching The First 48. Its like CSI--except real!
  • I haven't watched The Cleaner yet. I'll have to check it out...
  • I LOVE intervention. I think it's incredibly important for people to put a face on drug use- heroin addicts aren't just homeless people and meth addicts aren't just hillbillies or trailer trash in the midwest. I think it's especially important for parents to see shows like this- it gives some background into what these people were going through (generally as kids or young adults) that led to their use. As someone who will readily admit to having done LOTS of drugs in my life and has seen both responsible recreational use and also lives ruined by drugs, I think shows like this are necessary.

    On a sort of related note, I do with the media/education focused more on harm-reduction type drug education programs and taught responsibility in drug use. Abstention only drug ed is about as effective as abstention only sex ed...totally ineffective.
  • I mean, I can see how this is useful as a tool. but I guess I too have seen enough of this shit for real and know that crack heads, meth addicts, pill poppers, alcoholics, etc come in all different packages. (which is why I get all upset about people want to shut down shelters, etc)

    but really, I guess I just don't see as entertainment because, well, I dunno, witnessing a friend shit herself in bed when we were in college after she puked in her bed for her heavy drug and alcohol use, I have no interest in watching a show about it. oh well. to each their own.

    and while I can totally see your point, WYW, of laughing at it, it's just touched so many parts of my life that I can't really imagine ... laughing at it. but that's just me.

    I'm much more into stuff like CSI, law & order, project runway, the closer, gossip girl, etc. crap tv so I can get outside the world a bit, I guess.
  • I totally blame it on my voyeristic tendencies. I love documentaries. Watching real people deal with real situations is far more interesting to me than some of the manufactured dramas on TV.

    HBO is great for good documentaries. I recently watched three of the best I've seen in a long time back to back: Hard Times at Douglas High, Resolved, and China's Stolen Children. Now those are compelling TV.
  • Feels nauseatingly voyeuristic to me too. I might play along if I were in a room where someone was playing a game to it, but I doubt it. I watched just one episode of Intervention and felt like I was taking part in something that would, in the long run, or the short run for that matter, actually prevent the person being filmed from actually getting any help. All I could think was that if I were in her spot and there were cameras on me, I'd be like get the fuck away from too. It also crossed my mind that the people-- family members, I'm guessing-- who consented to have a camera crew ride along weren't thinking so much about their distressed, beloved family member. My family has pulled me out of some dark places in the past, the distant past fortunately, and I can't imagine them subjecting me to camera disclosure when I was at my worst. My worst wasn't caused by drug or alcohol abuse, but still, when I was there I could have been found drunk enough on enough occasions to make good viewing. Who does that?
    My husband is all over the first 48. I prefer a crafted drama in which the responsibility can be cleanly nailed on someone. It makes me cry to watch real life dopes go down for things they barely comprehend. Makes me wanna shout and volunteer and turn of the tube. But then there's this computer habit i have yet to conquer....
  • Lucille wrote: It also crossed my mind that the people-- family members, I'm guessing-- who consented to have a camera crew ride along weren't thinking so much about their distressed, beloved family member. My family has pulled me out of some dark places in the past, the distant past fortunately, and I can't imagine them subjecting me to camera disclosure when I was at my worst. My worst wasn't caused by drug or alcohol abuse, but still, when I was there I could have been found drunk enough on enough occasions to make good viewing. Who does that?
    Actually, the way that it works is that the family approaches the intervention people to ask for an intervention. The producers make a decision about whether they think that the story is compelling. If the person makes the cut, the addict is approached directly by the producers and asked to particpate in a documentary about addiction. Each addict agrees to being filmed on their own. I don't think that the family can agree on someone else's behalf.

    In addition the following info was on the Intervention website. "Before appearing on Intervention™, potential participants undergo clinical evaluations in order to determine the appropriate treatment for their addictions. All participating therapists are licensed and in good standing."

    I think that many families take the step because the benefits are so great. The addict gets 90 days of inpatient treatment which is far more than most private insurance companies provide (I think the standard is 30 days) plus transportation to facilities far away from their communities. Many of the families could not afford to pay for that type of treatment. I think that intervention also covers sober living for people who are released from inpatient treatment before the 90 days is up. For families that either have no insurance or those that have exhausted their own benefits this type of treatment at no charge is a godsend.
  • huh, I didn't know all of that. that's good. the best inpatient facilities are costly and yeah, I think most even fab PPOs don't cover more than 30 days of this stuff (and only like 40 or something visits to a shrink - useless whether you're dealing with depression, addiction or whatever).

    so that is good, at least.
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