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How to take action to resolve your debt situation ? — Brooklynian

How to take action to resolve your debt situation ?

agung
edited November -1 in Park Slope
How to take action to resolve your debt situation ?

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  • What kind of action, and what kind of debt?

    My girlfriend has been fighting some pretty minor credit card debt for the past bunch of years. It was originally about 5k, but after lots of empty threats of lawsuits, the debt has been sold and sold to others, who are now asking much less (something like 3k).

    Since it's not an incredibly high amount, I'm guessing they haven't felt that lots of legal action was worth it...but by the same token, it's still money she owes them that it doesn't appear (from their perspective) they have a good chance of getting any time soon. As a result, she's been able to make deals with them to freeze interest (I believe -- may be wrong on this one) and pay them back a set monthly amount. So long as she keeps paying, they'll leave her alone, but it took a lot of back and forth to get there. If you really have little chance of paying back whatever monthly amount you're expected, maybe try to talk to someone from the lenders, and explain your situation. Maybe they'll be willing to work with you depending on your history with them.

    If it's school loans, I assume you know at least some options available to you. Forbearance is the worst route (interest continues to accrue, even as you don't pay anything), but is usually a likely option. Deferment is also usually an option (it's basically frozen, and you don't pay anything for xxx amount of time, and no interest accrues), though they may tell you you only have xxx amount of months of deferment before you have to begin paying again.

    Wish I could help more. I, myself, pay just under $1000 in bills monthly (minus rent, of course), which includes $605/month for a $60k school loan (private), and $75/month for another (federal) school loan. It's a pretty big burden that I'll be living with for the next ~10+ years still, but I'm fortunate enough to be making decent money at the moment (*crosses fingers*).
  • Great story. However, I think Agung was just setting us up for a spam advertisement for a bulletproof solution to your "debt situation". Being posted in 3, 2, 1 ...
  • FREE MONEY NOW!$!!$!#@!!!
  • There are several ways to resolve a debt issue, but remember this: NEVER NEVER carry credit card debt if you can help it. But if you must owe cred card debt, many credit card companies offer 0% interest rate balance transfer for a set period of time, just make sure you know how long that period. If you have an outstanding student loan, you may lock it into a fixed rate 30yr loan. You can only do this once, so make sure you lock in at a good rate. I locked in my private student loan at a fixed rate of 3.375%. This will decrease your monthly payment significantly because traditional student loans are amortized over 10 year period, while a fixed rate conversion will allow you to pay back in 30 years. Here is an example: if you have loan balance of $25K, and you lock in your fixed interest rate of 3.375% for 30 years, your monthly payment will only be $110. Also, look into your 401K plan. Many companies will allow you to take loans out against your 401K (this is NOT early withdrawal, so you will have to pay back the money). Aside from taking money out for your 1st home purchase, you usually have to pay back the money in 5 years. But, the advantage is the loan won't show up on your credit report, and, if your company admister the 401K accounts on individual basis not on a pool basis (most large companies admister on pool basis), the you are basically pay yourself back on interest. This is how it works: if you have an individual 401K account (not pooled), then you should be able to take out a loan that equates to the minimum of 1) $50K, and 2) 1/2 of your total asset value (this is a general case, but do check with your company on the details). You will be paying back the amount to your 401K account within 5 years period (with the exception of 1st home purchase you may pay back up to 30 year period), and usually with a rate of Prime + 1% or 2%. Now, if your 401K account is admistered individually, then the interest you pay back will be credited entirely into your own account. So essentially you are making investment on the money you borrowed, on yourself. However, if your 401K is pooled with the rest of the company, then the interest you pay back will be spread among ALL the 401K participants in the company.
  • dailyheights wrote: Great story. However, I think Agung was just setting us up for a spam advertisement for a bulletproof solution to your "debt situation". Being posted in 3, 2, 1 ...
    Ditto. I didn't bother writing a "real" response because this stinks like spam is coming any second
  • Gah, I feel like such a sucker. :/

    How have I NOT seen this before...?

    Anyway.. hey, anyone want to go in halvesy on this $20,000,000 some Nigerian prince is offering to send me?

    :/
  • possibly_maybe wrote: Gah, I feel like such a sucker. :/

    How have I NOT seen this before...?

    Anyway.. hey, anyone want to go in halvesy on this $20,000,000 some Nigerian prince is offering to send me?

    :/
    Yah, but I feel SO much closer to you, now that I know the intimate details of your finances and whatnot.

    :mrgreen:

    Being helpful is never a bad thing, without regard to the intent of the original OP. So, YAY YOU. Four thumbs up!
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  • What can I say.. I'm a somewhat-naive, bleeding-heart sucker. Was just trying to help, however little it might, since this kind of stuff strikes a bit of a personal chord..
  • possibly_maybe wrote: What can I say.. I'm a somewhat-naive, bleeding-heart sucker. Was just trying to help, however little it might, since this kind of stuff strikes a bit of a personal chord..
    Seriously, totally cool. Getting out of debt is very personal to me also. I spent a lot of time and effort and soul searching in eliminating over $400k of debt in recent years. Debt free, and proud to be! That is me. Whee! Whoopee.

    And stuff.
  • Holy fuck, my little sob story about 60k of "good" (non-CC, school0-loan) debt is pretty weak in comparison. Grats to you. I couldn't even imaging working through that..
  • possibly_maybe wrote: Holy fuck, my little sob story about 60k of "good" (non-CC, school0-loan) debt is pretty weak in comparison. Grats to you. I couldn't even imaging working through that..
    That included house @ $215k owed, cars, CC, personal loans, lines of credit, everything. Which is to say that I didn't save up $400k and pay it off, a lot of it was decisions to live life differently. Although there was a significant cash outlay to clean everything up. Lou Reed, first two verses of Strawman:
    We who have so much to you who have so little
    to you who don't have anything at all
    We who have so much more than any one man does need
    and you who don't have anything at all, ah
    Does anybody need another million dollar movie
    does anybody need another million dollar star
    Does anybody need to be told over and over
    spitting in the wind comes back at you twice as hard

    Does anyone really need a billion dollar rocket
    does anyone need a $60,000 car
    Does anyone need another President
    or the sins of Swaggart parts 6, 7, 8, and 9, ah
    Does anyone need another politician
    caught with his pants down money sticking in his hole
    Does anyone need another racist preacher
    spittin' in the wind can only do you harm, wow
  • Daver, how did you live life differently? Like not going out and eating generic and stuff?
  • scarlett wrote: Daver, how did you live life differently? Like not going out and eating generic and stuff?
    That is part of it, but the big part was dropping out of the consumerist keeping up with the Jonses mentality. Who really _needs_ 3500+ square feet? How much better is an $80k auto than an $8k one, really? Does one really _need_ the latest 65" video system with accompanying crap every couple years? How many _things_ can a person, or family, really _use_? Why do we need to throw everything out and constantly get the latest and greatest? Why is it that we Americans can't seem to live within our means? I spent a decade always thinking that true happiness was just around the corner, this HOUSE, this CAR, this WHATEVER so that _then_ I can do WHATEVER. Well guess what, it doesn't matter how much money or stuff or whatever one has, you are always going to want that little bit more. I watched it chase me as my income doubled, tripled, etc. How to be happy to to be happy with what you have, whatever that might be. And one is a LOT happier not in debt. It takes a lot of burden off your mind.

    In a 30-second nutshell.

    :mrgreen:
  • daver wrote:
    That included house @ $215k owed, cars, CC, personal loans, lines of credit, everything. Which is to say that I didn't save up $400k and pay it off, a lot of it was decisions to live life differently. Although there was a significant cash outlay to clean everything up. Lou Reed, first two verses of Strawman:
    We who have so much to you who have so little
    to you who don't have anything at all
    We who have so much more than any one man does need
    and you who don't have anything at all, ah
    Does anybody need another million dollar movie
    does anybody need another million dollar star
    Does anybody need to be told over and over
    spitting in the wind comes back at you twice as hard

    Does anyone really need a billion dollar rocket
    does anyone need a $60,000 car
    Does anyone need another President
    or the sins of Swaggart parts 6, 7, 8, and 9, ah
    Does anyone need another politician
    caught with his pants down money sticking in his hole
    Does anyone need another racist preacher
    spittin' in the wind can only do you harm, wow
    Cat Power's 'Fool', somewhat related:
    apartment in New York, London and Paris
    where will we rest?, we're all living on top of it
    it's all that we have, the USA is our daily bread
    and no one is willing to share it

    why can't we see our fortunacy,
    living as legends have lived?
    bane and dismannered
    we coax all the time
    knowing that nothing is left when we die

    come along, fool
    a direct hit of the senses, you are disconnected
    it's not that it's bad, it's not that it's death
    it's just on the tip of your tongue and you're so silent

    wanting to live and laugh all the time
    sitting alone with your tea and your crime
    children with kids and people with parents
    any which way, there's no past and no present

    when the day comes and all of them bums
    will reveal enchanting persons

    come along, fool...

    when it's a rut and baby's no luck
    half of it's misunderstanding love
    the war we have won we're winning again
    within ourselves and within our friends

    come along, fool...
  • daver wrote: Getting out of debt is very personal to me also. I spent a lot of time and effort and soul searching in eliminating over $400k of debt in recent years. Debt free, and proud to be! That is me. Whee! Whoopee.
    And stuff.
    I'm trying to reverse engineer your strategy. I'm missing a few details, but I think the formula goes something like this:

    1. Hang out on Brooklynian
    2. ...
    3. Become debt-free!
  • Ok... until WhiFi stops me I'm going to keep saying this:

    FREE MONEY NOW!!!!!!!!$$!$!$!$!$
  • dailyheights wrote: [quote=daver]Getting out of debt is very personal to me also. I spent a lot of time and effort and soul searching in eliminating over $400k of debt in recent years. Debt free, and proud to be! That is me. Whee! Whoopee.
    And stuff.
    I'm trying to reverse engineer your strategy. I'm missing a few details, but I think the formula goes something like this:

    1. Hang out on Brooklynian
    2. ...
    3. Become debt-free!
    4. PROFIT.
  • daver wrote: [quote=possibly_maybe]What can I say.. I'm a somewhat-naive, bleeding-heart sucker. Was just trying to help, however little it might, since this kind of stuff strikes a bit of a personal chord..
    Seriously, totally cool. Getting out of debt is very personal to me also. I spent a lot of time and effort and soul searching in eliminating over $400k of debt in recent years. Debt free, and proud to be! That is me. Whee! Whoopee.

    And stuff.

    Congrats to you daver! I myself just got out of debt at the end of May - just in time for my birthday. It was much less, but it was ridiculous credit card debt that took me years to pay off. I ended up going to one of those consolidating services when I still lived in San Francisco. That helped immensely. Yeah, and it's a great feeling being debt free. Now I can actually save some money and put a little towards an IRA. Yay!
  • I enrolled in a debt management program (I can give you name if you want) which lowered APRs and stuff, I give them a lump sum, they disburse, and, hopefully, in 3 1/2 years I'll be debt free.
  • Mamacita wrote: Ok... until WhiFi stops me I'm going to keep saying this:

    FREE MONEY NOW!!!!!!!!$$!$!$!$!$
    NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO !!!!!!!1!!!!1! STOP IT!!!

    (was that good?)

    One thing to keep in mind when it comes to debt management programs (CCCS) - many issuers of credit will look at participation in the program in a similar light to filing chapter 13 bankruptcy; resort to it only if absolutely necessary.
  • daver wrote: [quote=scarlett]Daver, how did you live life differently? Like not going out and eating generic and stuff?
    That is part of it, but the big part was dropping out of the consumerist keeping up with the Jonses mentality. Who really _needs_ 3500+ square feet? How much better is an $80k auto than an $8k one, really? Does one really _need_ the latest 65" video system with accompanying crap every couple years? How many _things_ can a person, or family, really _use_? Why do we need to throw everything out and constantly get the latest and greatest? Why is it that we Americans can't seem to live within our means? I spent a decade always thinking that true happiness was just around the corner, this HOUSE, this CAR, this WHATEVER so that _then_ I can do WHATEVER. Well guess what, it doesn't matter how much money or stuff or whatever one has, you are always going to want that little bit more. I watched it chase me as my income doubled, tripled, etc. How to be happy to to be happy with what you have, whatever that might be. And one is a LOT happier not in debt. It takes a lot of burden off your mind.

    In a 30-second nutshell.

    :mrgreen:

    I'm so with you on this. I've just begun on this path and it's so liberating to know that you are free from the compulsive behavior of getting "stuff" because you're made to feel as though you need it. When you take a hard look at what you need to make you happy, you'll find that the list is pretty short and simpler than you thought.
  • I don't have to worry about debt. Nobody will give me any money.

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