F**king China - Outrage of the Day!
http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/21/sports/olympics/21protest.html?_r=1&hp&oref=slogin
BEIJING — Two elderly Chinese women have been sentenced to a year of “re-education through labor” after they repeatedly sought a permit to demonstrate in one of the official Olympic protest areas, according to family members and human rights advocates.
The women, Wu Dianyuan, 79, and Wang Xiuying, 77, had made five visits to the police this month in an effort to get permission to protest what they contended was inadequate compensation for the demolition of their homes in Beijing.
During their final visit on Monday, public security officials informed them that they had been given administrative sentences for “disturbing the public order,” according to Li Xuehui, Ms. Wu’s son.
Mr. Li said his mother and Ms. Wang, who used to be neighbors before their homes were demolished to make way for a redevelopment project, were allowed to return home but were told they could be sent to a detention center at any moment. “Can you imagine two old ladies in their 70s being re-educated through labor?” he asked. He said Ms. Wang was nearly blind.
A man who answered the phone at the Public Security Bureau declined to give out information about the case.
At least a half dozen people have been detained by the authorities after they responded to a government announcement late last month designating venues in three city parks as “protest zones” during the Olympics. So far, no demonstrations have taken place.
According to Xinhua, the state news agency, 77 people submitted protest applications, none of which were approved. Xinhua, quoting a public security spokesperson, said that apart from those detained all but three applicants had dropped their requests after their complaints were “properly addressed by relevant authorities or departments through consultations.” The remaining three applications were rejected for incomplete information or for violating Chinese law.
The authorities, however, have refused to explain what happened to applicants who disappeared after they submitted their paperwork. Among these, Gao Chuancai, a farmer from northeast China who was hoping to publicize government corruption, was forcibly escorted back to his hometown last week and remains in custody.
Relatives of another person who was detained, Zhang Wei, a Beijing resident who was also seeking to protest the demolition of her home, were told she would be kept at a detention center for a month. Two rights advocates from southern China have not been heard from since they were seized last week at the Public Security Bureau’s protest application office in Beijing.
Ms. Wu and Ms. Wang were well known to the authorities for their persistent campaign for greater compensation for the demolition of their homes. Mr. Li said his family had given up their home in 2001 with the expectation that they would get a new one in the development that replaced it. Instead, he said, the family has been forced to live in a ramshackle apartment on the capital’s outskirts.
“I feel very sad and angry because we’re only asking for the basic right of living and it’s been six years, but nobody will do anything to help them,” Mr. Li said.
He said that he and Ms. Wang’s daughter tried to apply for their own protest permit on Tuesday but that the police would not even give them the necessary forms.
The two elderly women were given administrative sentences to re-education through labor, known as laojiao, which seeks to reform political and religious dissenters and those charged with minor crimes like prostitution and petty theft. Government officials say that 290,000 people are detained in re-education centers for terms ranging from one to three years, although detentions can be extended for those whose rehabilitation is deemed inadequate.
Human rights advocates have long criticized the system because punishment is handed down by officials without trials or means of appeal. Last year, the government briefly grappled with revamping the system but backed off in the face of opposition from public security officials.
Although it is unlikely that women as old as Ms. Wu and Ms. Wang would be forced into hard labor, many of those sentenced to laojiao often toil in agricultural or factory work and are forced to confess their transgressions.
Tang Xuemei contributed research.
BEIJING — Two elderly Chinese women have been sentenced to a year of “re-education through labor” after they repeatedly sought a permit to demonstrate in one of the official Olympic protest areas, according to family members and human rights advocates.
The women, Wu Dianyuan, 79, and Wang Xiuying, 77, had made five visits to the police this month in an effort to get permission to protest what they contended was inadequate compensation for the demolition of their homes in Beijing.
During their final visit on Monday, public security officials informed them that they had been given administrative sentences for “disturbing the public order,” according to Li Xuehui, Ms. Wu’s son.
Mr. Li said his mother and Ms. Wang, who used to be neighbors before their homes were demolished to make way for a redevelopment project, were allowed to return home but were told they could be sent to a detention center at any moment. “Can you imagine two old ladies in their 70s being re-educated through labor?” he asked. He said Ms. Wang was nearly blind.
A man who answered the phone at the Public Security Bureau declined to give out information about the case.
At least a half dozen people have been detained by the authorities after they responded to a government announcement late last month designating venues in three city parks as “protest zones” during the Olympics. So far, no demonstrations have taken place.
According to Xinhua, the state news agency, 77 people submitted protest applications, none of which were approved. Xinhua, quoting a public security spokesperson, said that apart from those detained all but three applicants had dropped their requests after their complaints were “properly addressed by relevant authorities or departments through consultations.” The remaining three applications were rejected for incomplete information or for violating Chinese law.
The authorities, however, have refused to explain what happened to applicants who disappeared after they submitted their paperwork. Among these, Gao Chuancai, a farmer from northeast China who was hoping to publicize government corruption, was forcibly escorted back to his hometown last week and remains in custody.
Relatives of another person who was detained, Zhang Wei, a Beijing resident who was also seeking to protest the demolition of her home, were told she would be kept at a detention center for a month. Two rights advocates from southern China have not been heard from since they were seized last week at the Public Security Bureau’s protest application office in Beijing.
Ms. Wu and Ms. Wang were well known to the authorities for their persistent campaign for greater compensation for the demolition of their homes. Mr. Li said his family had given up their home in 2001 with the expectation that they would get a new one in the development that replaced it. Instead, he said, the family has been forced to live in a ramshackle apartment on the capital’s outskirts.
“I feel very sad and angry because we’re only asking for the basic right of living and it’s been six years, but nobody will do anything to help them,” Mr. Li said.
He said that he and Ms. Wang’s daughter tried to apply for their own protest permit on Tuesday but that the police would not even give them the necessary forms.
The two elderly women were given administrative sentences to re-education through labor, known as laojiao, which seeks to reform political and religious dissenters and those charged with minor crimes like prostitution and petty theft. Government officials say that 290,000 people are detained in re-education centers for terms ranging from one to three years, although detentions can be extended for those whose rehabilitation is deemed inadequate.
Human rights advocates have long criticized the system because punishment is handed down by officials without trials or means of appeal. Last year, the government briefly grappled with revamping the system but backed off in the face of opposition from public security officials.
Although it is unlikely that women as old as Ms. Wu and Ms. Wang would be forced into hard labor, many of those sentenced to laojiao often toil in agricultural or factory work and are forced to confess their transgressions.
Tang Xuemei contributed research.
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truly disgusting.
i don't particularly care which cute kid sang what and whether the fireworks i saw were the same ones that went off, but the "protest zones", the creepy permits, the unreasonable arrests -- this stuff is truly gross.
as a separate issue, i wish it weren't all so reminiscent of where things have been headed in this country in the past 8 years. "free speech zones", anyone? -
sweet tea wrote: truly disgusting.
Yeah it's hard for me to get real mad about the Chinese govt when ours has been mimicking it more and more.
i don't particularly care which cute kid sang what and whether the fireworks i saw were the same ones that went off, but the "protest zones", the creepy permits, the unreasonable arrests -- this stuff is truly gross.
as a separate issue, i wish it weren't all so reminiscent of where things have been headed in this country in the past 8 years. "free speech zones", anyone? -
that's no reason not to be mad at china.
it's a reason to be mad at ourselves, too, but there's no reason not to be mad about hard labor for old ladies whose houses got taken away. -
Stay mad at China - their gov't deserves it. But, also get effin mad as hell at our gov't. We're the ones who held a Chinese man in detention after he outstayed his visa... while he was in custody he frequently complained of severe back pain and his complaints were ignored. What was causing his pain? Gee, only the broken spine and terminal cancer he was suffering from. Yea, he died. In US custody.
So be mad, but be mad at China and the good ol' US of A. -
The Democratic Convention protest zones are in Colorado Springs
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sweet tea wrote: that's no reason not to be mad at china.
'tis true, you are right.
it's a reason to be mad at ourselves, too, but there's no reason not to be mad about hard labor for old ladies whose houses got taken away.
I just get frustrated at various expressions of anger and judgment of China, which seem to far outnumber such expressions about our own govt. -
Of course none of this can compare to the outrage that is Olympic volleyball:
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/2008/august/olympicvolleyball.html -
Boygabriel wrote: [quote=sweet tea]that's no reason not to be mad at china.
'tis true, you are right.
it's a reason to be mad at ourselves, too, but there's no reason not to be mad about hard labor for old ladies whose houses got taken away.
I just get frustrated at various expressions of anger and judgment of China, which seem to far outnumber such expressions about our own govt.
As bad as the good ole USA has gotten under increasingly fascistic Republican administrations, we are still the Mother Theresa of countries compared to the brutality and murderous repression of the Chinese government. -
Carnivore wrote: Of course none of this can compare to the outrage that is Olympic volleyball:
This has to be the all-time best real web site story! And I'm sure that nothing is worse than seeing a floor-load of purple tallywhackers.
http://www.landoverbaptist.org/2008/august/olympicvolleyball.html -
LTT, you know it's a joke, right? did you look at the rest of the page?
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Livetotravel wrote:
Seems to me like freedom in China has a lot to do with who you know and who you annoy. In the US, it seems to have a lot to do with who you are and how much money you have. China's ahead on capital punishment (nearly half the world's share on a fifth of its population); the US is ahead on incarceration (a quarter of the world's share on a 20th of its population). On those numbers, it's kind of hard to pick which is the Mother Theresa of the two.
As bad as the good ole USA has gotten under increasingly fascistic Republican administrations, we are still the Mother Theresa of countries compared to the brutality and murderous repression of the Chinese government. -
China also banned Black people from being served in bars during the olympics.
"CHINA - NEW FRONTIER FOR CIVIL RIGHTS?"
The illusion that Blacks in America have access and are free to travel, congregate, dine, drink, and enjoy the freedoms common to Whites all over the world and that we no longer have to be vigilant about restriction of such freedoms has been shattered once again. Obama's noteworthy and historic bid for the President of the United States could lead one to believe that a new age has come, that the issues of human and civil rights are the albatrosses of an age gone by. But China, on the world stage, may present a new kind of restriction. Read this thought provoking Op-Ed and drink up!
Blacks banned from bars during the Olympics?
BY NSENGA BURTON
Special Op-Ed to the Atlanta Voice
What do Carmelo Anthony, Kobe Bryant, LeBron James, Dwight Howard and Jason Kidd have in common? They are the starting five of the 2008 Olympic Men's Basketball team and none of them will be admitted to any bars in Beijing because they are black. No, this is not fiction - it is a fact as reported by the South China Morning Post (7/18/08). Beijing authorities have forbidden bar owners to serve blacks during the 2008 Olympics.
How hypocritical is it that the host of the largest international sports competition in the free world would ban an entire group of people based on race? This blanket discrimination is couched in the idea of "controlling" Beijing's problem with prostitution and drugs, which is primarily driven by Mongolians. Somehow, this policy smacks of impropriety, pun intended, and underscores China's continuous policies of discrimination. You would think with the global embarrassment over the mistreatment of Tibetan Monks, faulty consumer products, and the suppression of information about deadly diseases, that China would have figured out by now that the systematic exclusion of an entire group of people, many of whom have histories of horrendous discrimination in their home countries, would not reflect well on the mainland. Further, I was not aware that blacks owned drug trafficking and prostitution worldwide. Amsterdam anyone?
Let's get this straight. Black people can participate in the games, add money to the economy in "permitted" spaces like hotels, lodges and restaurants, but they cannot go to a bar, which may be located in a hotel, lodge or restaurant. This is outrageous. Would the world stand still if in 2008 the United States was banning entire populations of people based on perceived ideas about race?
Pretending to control drug trafficking while controlling the movement of black folks is out of control. To define an entire race of people as drug dealers and prostitutes is unacceptable. I guess this is what you get when an international committee overlooks a country that has transgressed human rights without recourse. The world community needs to unite against this injustice and demand that China allow all Olympic participants, athletes and visitors alike, equal access to all venues.
As China prepares to take the world's stage in celebration of athletes all over the world, and by extension their people, it is tragic that they have decided to add blanket discrimination to the many offerings during this year's Olympic games. Perhaps our expectations of China are too high? It is kind of ridiculous to have the expectation of moving freely in a country that does not allow its citizens to move freely. Complicated countries have complicated practices. The fact that Beijing is being allowed to ban all blacks from any place or event, without rebuke or scorn, is maddening. Will the world stand by while China further institutionalizes another human rights debacle? (Source: RushmoreDrive.com) -
Anyone who would compare China's human violations to the good ole US of A's is delusional at best.
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