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RANT: Hey, that's *my* motorcycle you just hit! — Brooklynian

RANT: Hey, that's *my* motorcycle you just hit!

swngnmonk
edited November -1 in Park Slope

Subject: RANT: Hey, that's *my* motorcycle you just hit!

A quick rant:

How did you not see my motorcycle parked right in front of your vehicle?!?

Thank you for being so careless as to, while pulling out of your parking space, drive into it and knock it over, HARD. You hit it hard enough to knock it over, despite the fact it was leaning downhill! Oh, and thanks for the paint you left rubbed into my frame.

Thank you for standing it back up, trying to pretend as if nothing happened, despite the fact it was dumping both oil and radiator fluid. Hope you got some on your pants.

Thank you for driving off, without leaving a note.

I now need to replace a number of very expensive parts on the bike, thanks to your carelessness.

Way to be a neighbor. Take some responsibility next time.
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  • sorry that happen to you :(. i see many motorcycles that way on the streets. they should allow motorcycles and scooters park on the side walk for this reason.
  • armchair_warrior wrote: sorry that happen to you :(. i see many motorcycles that way on the streets. they should allow motorcycles and scooters park on the side walk for this reason.
    Horrible that it happened... I agree. Allowing motorcycles/scooters to park on the sidewalk: bad idea.
  • That sucked. Sorry it happened. Nobody saw it occur?
  • It happened around 8:30 on Thursday morning on Union Street. I know someone saw it, it's just a matter of finding someone who saw it.
  • It's just a part of living in the city and parking on the street. My car has numerous dings and embedded paint from things that happened to it while it was parked. It sucks, but that's just the way it goes.
  • Bummer swngnmonk. Sorry about your ride. I hope its fixed soon.

    As far as parking motorcycles or scooters on the sidewalk - very bad idea. I'm glad it is against the law.
  • Testiculon wrote: It's just a part of living in the city and parking on the street. My car has numerous dings and embedded paint from things that happened to it while it was parked. It sucks, but that's just the way it goes.
    That is not the way it should go. If you ding someone's car or bike, you should leave a note. It is the right thing to do.
  • Jamzer wrote: [quote=Testiculon]It's just a part of living in the city and parking on the street. My car has numerous dings and embedded paint from things that happened to it while it was parked. It sucks, but that's just the way it goes.
    That is not the way it should go. If you ding someone's car or bike, you should leave a note. It is the right thing to do.

    Yes, you should...but no one does. My car was in nearly mint condition when I brought it into the city 10 months ago- its been hit so many times that the front bumper is actually pushed back ON TOP of the two front quarter panels (meaning its been hit with enough force to bend it) and the rear bumper is totally ruined. Additionally, there are obvious scratches all over the hood from people sitting on it literally DOZENS of times. Respect for personal property doesn't seem to be a strong suit of NYers.
  • I rode my FatBoy to work and had it on the sidewalk in front of my job when a ticket agent told me that if I didn’t put it in the street I would get a ticket. An hour later some idiot backed his Jeep SUV into it cracking the front fender and tweaking the front end. :shock: The guy stayed around and apologized so that was cool but he’s still a moron. Said he did not see it. Waiting on his insurance. :cry: Next time I'll take the ticket.
  • Carmen,

    I understand where you're coming from, and getting dings on your bumpers is definitely part of life in NYC. I've owned cars in NYC, and you expect it.

    But when you hit a motorcycle hard enough to knock it over, destroy the radiator and the oil cooler, see liquids pour out all over the street, and then upright it like nothing happened, that's not a "ding". That's hit and run.
  • swngnmonk wrote: Carmen,

    I understand where you're coming from, and getting dings on your bumpers is definitely part of life in NYC. I've owned cars in NYC, and you expect it.

    But when you hit a motorcycle hard enough to knock it over, destroy the radiator and the oil cooler, see liquids pour out all over the street, and then upright it like nothing happened, that's not a "ding". That's hit and run.
    I'm not totally disagreeing with you...however its kind of like the dangers of driving in the city. I mean, my mirror was sideswiped and no one left me a note. Was I pissed? Of course...but I think it's kind of part of the "luxury" of having a car here.

    And, while we're on the topic of motorcycles parking- to those of you who own them, please don't park 4 inches from my car. If I'm pulled up all the way to the white line, you cannot fit because even if the car behind me is 2 feet away NOW doesn't mean that it'll be two feet away when I go to move my car. I've been boxed in a few times by bikes before who clearly shouldn't have wedged in front of me. This counts for vespas, too. I am a nice person and those times I actually opted to take a cab instead of risking knocking over the bike, but I can see someone with a larger/more aggressive car or a bad attitude just plowing it down out of spite. I'm not saying that the OP was one of these people...I just notice it happening quite a bit.


    I have sympathy for you though, dealing with car related repairs sucks. The first time my car was seriously damaged (a giant chunk was taken out of the side of y front bumper by someone who clearly couldn't park) I literally cried. I'm glad I didn't opt to fix it then, however- I'm just waiting till I move out of the city and I'll replace both bumpers and get the whole car repainted. LAME!
  • FYI

    From today's F.Y.I in the NY Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/nyregion/thecity/24fyi.html?_r=1&sq=fyi&st=nyt&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&scp=1&adxnnlx=1219583743-ZG0V+ELsf3Cc+LKEzk4+xQ
    Department of Dream On

    Q. A friend of mine, who owns a motorcycle, told me that if he covers his bike with a motorcycle cover and parks illegally, he cannot be given a ticket, because a police officer is not allowed to pick up the cover to read the license plate. Is this true?

    A. Your friend, not the officer, would be breaking the law.

    Paul Browne, the deputy police commissioner who is the department’s chief spokesman, has a word for claims like these: wishmyth, a combination of wishful thinking and urban legend.

    “In other words,” Mr. Browne said, “it is lawful for an officer to remove a vehicle cover of an unlawfully parked vehicle for the purpose of determining whether the vehicle has a vehicle identification number and plates and, if so, to issue a summons.”

    Furthermore, he said in an e-mail message, the law prohibits a vehicle from standing or parking while it is covered with something that obscures the make, color, vehicle identification number, plates or registration and inspection stickers.
  • ringrunner wrote: FYI

    From today's F.Y.I in the NY Times
    http://www.nytimes.com/2008/08/24/nyregion/thecity/24fyi.html?_r=1&sq=fyi&st=nyt&adxnnl=1&oref=slogin&scp=1&adxnnlx=1219583743-ZG0V+ELsf3Cc+LKEzk4+xQ
    Department of Dream On

    Q. A friend of mine, who owns a motorcycle, told me that if he covers his bike with a motorcycle cover and parks illegally, he cannot be given a ticket, because a police officer is not allowed to pick up the cover to read the license plate. Is this true?

    A. Your friend, not the officer, would be breaking the law.

    Paul Browne, the deputy police commissioner who is the department’s chief spokesman, has a word for claims like these: wishmyth, a combination of wishful thinking and urban legend.

    “In other words,” Mr. Browne said, “it is lawful for an officer to remove a vehicle cover of an unlawfully parked vehicle for the purpose of determining whether the vehicle has a vehicle identification number and plates and, if so, to issue a summons.”

    Furthermore, he said in an e-mail message, the law prohibits a vehicle from standing or parking while it is covered with something that obscures the make, color, vehicle identification number, plates or registration and inspection stickers.
    the times asked the wrong person. police officers can remove the cover, ticket agents can't. they have different responsibilities and authority. also, ticket agents are under the department of finance, that is who trains them, not the nypd. i think you are pretty safe covering your bike if you are either on the sidewalk or are not in a "no standing" zone
  • vidro3 wrote: also, ticket agents are under the department of finance, that is who trains them, not the nypd. i think you are pretty safe covering your bike if you are either on the sidewalk or are not in a "no standing" zone
    Traffic Enforcement Agents are in the employ of the NYPD. It is a civil service title and they are civilians members of the service.
  • joncane wrote: [quote=vidro3] also, ticket agents are under the department of finance, that is who trains them, not the nypd. i think you are pretty safe covering your bike if you are either on the sidewalk or are not in a "no standing" zone
    Traffic Enforcement Agents are in the employ of the NYPD. It is a civil service title and they are civilians members of the service.

    that is correct, however, TEAs are not police officers. They have differing levels of authority; e.g. TEAs cannot write tickets for moving violations, (though this rule may have been changed recently.) Most TEAs cannot arrest someone, only TEA level IVs have that power.

    In any case, the actual training on how to write parking tickets is done by the department of finance, because that is who is in charge of parking tickets in new york city.
  • While reading this, I knew exactly how you felt. When I parked my car in "the burg", my entire front bumper had been torn off and a headlight cracked in-likely by a truck that turned too closely. It cost me too much and I think I spent a week with a large angry cardboard sign in my back window about owning up to your actions and thanks for causing probs and disturbing my peace of mind, etc...

    So it goes in the city, but damn people, take some initiative and responsibility-
    or just learn how to drive. ;-)

    Hope it wasn't too bad overall- best of luck.
  • Carmen wrote:
    And, while we're on the topic of motorcycles parking- to those of you who own them, please don't park 4 inches from my car. If I'm pulled up all the way to the white line, you cannot fit because even if the car behind me is 2 feet away NOW doesn't mean that it'll be two feet away when I go to move my car.
    omfg this happened to me recently.
    dude was literally 2 inches from my front bumper.
    i dont know from bikes so
    finally i just picked the dam thing up and moved it 3 feet away.
    better than hitting it.
    but
    I was kind let down that im not more malicious.
    "evilfunky" has been having dreams of running back and forth over it a few times :twisted:

    it doesnt take a bloody mensa IQ to know you shouldnt park your little piece of crap 2 inches away from a 1 ton vehicle.
  • Garfunky wrote: [quote=Carmen]
    And, while we're on the topic of motorcycles parking- to those of you who own them, please don't park 4 inches from my car. If I'm pulled up all the way to the white line, you cannot fit because even if the car behind me is 2 feet away NOW doesn't mean that it'll be two feet away when I go to move my car.
    omfg this happened to me recently.
    dude was literally 2 inches from my front bumper.
    i dont know from bikes so
    finally i just picked the dam thing up and moved it 3 feet away.
    better than hitting it.
    but
    I was kind let down that im not more malicious.
    "evilfunky" has been having dreams of running back and forth over it a few times :twisted:

    it doesnt take a bloody mensa IQ to know you shouldnt park your little piece of crap 2 inches away from a 1 ton vehicle.

    this happened to me the other day. Dear motorcycle riders (and Vespa owners, too)....If I am boxed in bumper to bumper between cars, I must kiss the bumpers of each of the hugging vehicles if I want to get my car out of the space. This is a HUGE DRAG if one of those vehicles only has 2 wheels, and the gall to squeeeeeeze in between the crosswalk and my car.

    Dear Red Vespa owner: this means YOU. I picked up and moved your damn bike because it was one inch away from my front bumper. Behind me was an Escalade, about 3 inches from my bumper. I hope you got a ticket when I moved your pretty bike into the crosswalk to keep from knocking it over. The Escalade and I kissed, no harm done.
  • redmenace wrote: [quote=Garfunky][quote=Carmen]
    And, while we're on the topic of motorcycles parking- to those of you who own them, please don't park 4 inches from my car. If I'm pulled up all the way to the white line, you cannot fit because even if the car behind me is 2 feet away NOW doesn't mean that it'll be two feet away when I go to move my car.
    omfg this happened to me recently.
    dude was literally 2 inches from my front bumper.
    i dont know from bikes so
    finally i just picked the dam thing up and moved it 3 feet away.
    better than hitting it.
    but
    I was kind let down that im not more malicious.
    "evilfunky" has been having dreams of running back and forth over it a few times :twisted:

    it doesnt take a bloody mensa IQ to know you shouldnt park your little piece of crap 2 inches away from a 1 ton vehicle.

    this happened to me the other day. Dear motorcycle riders (and Vespa owners, too)....If I am boxed in bumper to bumper between cars, I must kiss the bumpers of each of the hugging vehicles if I want to get my car out of the space. This is a HUGE DRAG if one of those vehicles only has 2 wheels, and the gall to squeeeeeeze in between the crosswalk and my car.

    Dear Red Vespa owner: this means YOU. I picked up and moved your damn bike because it was one inch away from my front bumper. Behind me was an Escalade, about 3 inches from my bumper. I hope you got a ticket when I moved your pretty bike into the crosswalk to keep from knocking it over. The Escalade and I kissed, no harm done.

    Good for you, I would have done the same. Motorcycles, bikes, vespa's need to follow the rules of the road and have common courtesy when parking.
  • I totally feel for you, op, unless your motorcycle is one of the monstrously loud ones. Then, I feel differently.
  • new2hood wrote: I totally feel for you, op, unless your motorcycle is one of the monstrously loud ones. Then, I feel differently.
    Loud pipes saves lives.
  • If its too loud, you're too old.
  • There's no such thing as too old, young'un!
  • So an update:

    Witness identified the culprit, I've taken photos of the bumper (paint scratches match those on my frame). Left them a note this evening, giving them the chance to own up & make amends without involving the cops or insurance. I know they're a neighbor - old school, in the neighborhood forever. Trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Shop also sent me the estimate, and it's *not* pretty.
  • swngnmonk wrote: So an update:

    Witness identified the culprit, I've taken photos of the bumper (paint scratches match those on my frame). Left them a note this evening, giving them the chance to own up & make amends without involving the cops or insurance. I know they're a neighbor - old school, in the neighborhood forever. Trying to give them the benefit of the doubt.

    Shop also sent me the estimate, and it's *not* pretty.
    I am keenly aware that there are no good answers here, and no one should hit and run any kind of parked vehicle. That said, what's the deal with bikes being able to park between 2 spaces? I was at a meter tonight in the Heights, and a motorcycle parked in between my front bumper and the car in front of me. Isn't that illegal?

    It doesn't make it right for me to hit the bike (which left little space) but it's really pushing it. makes it hard to feel sorry for motorcyclists.
  • I've seen people jam their cars into a parking spot that someone has already parked a motorcycle in. So it's not just the bikers, drivers are jerks too.
  • Those posters who physically moved the bikes in their way - wow!

    Hey bike owners are drivers really to be expected to lift your vehicles to get them out of the way? Does that happen a lot? Does it piss you off that someone's touched/moved your bike?
  • Technically a bike is supposed to take one whole spot. It seems as though it is overlooked because of the lack of parking.

    I try to park my bike with others (safety in numbers and all) where I can see it or in a garage…
    …it still got hit. :roll:
  • loud pipes are illegal, rude, and show complete disregard for one's neighbors and community.
    Learn to drive and you won't need to announce the fact you're coming....
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