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do you believe you can curse yourself? — Brooklynian

do you believe you can curse yourself?

I told a group of folks about an ex of mine on saturday night. sometime between 11 p.m. sunday and now, said ex found me on facebook. this guy, aside from working in a field which infuriates me, found me on yahoo personals in 2001 and when I didn't respond, he took a guess at my yahoo email name and, guess what? got a date out of it. he has popped in and out of my life far too often for my comfort. I once attempted to give him a shot to be a "serious" boyfriend but he FAILED. so I cut him off in like 2004 or 2005 (I'm lousy with dates). and now he finds me? seriously, last time I talked to him, he was complaining about my nabe in bklyn because he used to live here and it's "scary". uh.

so. did I totally curse myself? or is this some random occurrence that makes me feel creeped out beyond creeped out, and thus, deciding I cursed myself? speak now!

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  • I don't think you cursed yourself. I've noticed over the course of years that nearly all my exes have contacted me either via email or phone (damn having the same # for the last 10 years!). I choose to think its because my awesomeness transends the years. In any event, if he creeps you out - just don't respond to him. Or tell him you think he's a creepy stalker.
  • When I started dating my current BF, two X's from my past appeared from out of nowhere (funny- both had the same name!), just to see if I was available.
    Anyway, I think its the cosmos' way of giving you closure.....or a second chance, depending.

    Either way- it's not a curse- it's an opportunity!
  • Quantum mechanics tells us the universe is random. Newtownian mechanics and relativity tell us it's deterministic. Human nature tells us your own beliefs and filters shape your experiences. If you start cursing yourself, you may get what you deserve, plus if you curse yourself in public you'll look like a freak.
  • eh, not an opportunity or at least one I wouldn't take. I think I've only ever been with someone (oh shit, wait, 4 people - different times) who were involved with someone else but I generally met them under weird circumstances, succumed to attraction or hated the other person involved in the relationship so didn't care about that person in the pair. and this dude - now married and happy in said marriage as far as I can figure. facebook and myspace = opportunities to find out stuff without asking.

    should I start a poll about friends or romantic relationship "closure"? cause I don't believe in that, really. it's pretty hard to get past a lot of situations but, really, it's difficult to not let the neurons fire and remind you about someone who was part of your life for quite awhile or, sometimes, for just one 24 hour period.

    there are still people from 15 years ago that I was friends with for all of a week I recall fondly, and someone I met in vegas for all of a few hours at a poker table I, in vain, hope will appear in my life again. person I'm talking about in this thread was my lesson in being strung along - not fun - so I don't like him really, and, as I said, have zero professional interest in him. but closure? not really. I want him to leave me alone, I want to see some folks again, and I hope I never see others again because, if I were an actress, what they did to me would be what I'd think about if I had to sob hysterically on cue. and there are folks I met last week I barely even remember, and not just for exhaustion and partying reasons. they had so little effect on me, even if I spent a lot of time with them, that they're totally meaningless in my brain.

    closure, to me, says you take something memorable in your brain and seal it off, eventually cut off whatever you felt attached to that memory and are no longer affected by it - hurrah closure. but I don't buy it.

    I do believe in evolving to cope, however, of the human mind and the ability to shift, cope and recover, if you will, from taking an emotional hit. you just learn to reprocess things and then the next one down the pike that does that to you should affect you less.

    hypothetical:

    you engage in a series of one-night stands with whichever gender pleases you (or all kazillion - whatever floats your boat).

    very first time you do this, the person says they'll call you, and since you did have a decent conversation with them and lovely sex, you assume they speak truth. they never call, you feel hurt and a little used, maybe. guilt? whatever. in any case, your brain sorts it out.

    next time, you have a one night stand and the scenario is similar. except the person does call. you're shocked. so you get together several times. but then you realize that the person sucks. and not well.

    third time, well, the setup is similar. except this one doesn't call you. so you're a little hurt, but far less than the first time. and maybe this triggers a response in your body that makes you want to slow this down, or completely to just not take anyone seriously that you ever have a one night stand with again.

    maybe I've been thinking way too much about cognition lately and questioning all sorts of reactions people have to events:

    what hurt so and so enough to make them react with emotional violence to a simple question? how can this other person be so analyitical about certain types of relationships but hysterically violent emotionally about others? why are some people so terrified of change their brains short-circuit but they make the change anyway, knowing it's best, and others are equally terrified and refuse to change?

    anyway, I guess I see a fundamental difference between the concept of "closure" and the concept of "neural retraining" - but then, some people never evolve and always end up in the same situations (sorta like people who were abused as children and never move past it - stay victims their whole life).

    okay, must stop typing. I kinda want to move this thread to chicklynian, just for shits and giggles. thoughts on that one? or maybe, it would be more fun to just keep moving it from random forum to random forum. I clearly got way too much sleep.
  • If you move it to chicklynian, the guys reading this will at least be warned it is a chick flick.

    Which doesn't mean we won't read it, it just means that we'll think we can't tell anyone we read it.
  • Oh, yeah, people that have been burned will usually build up an expectation of being burned again in the same situation. Its very Pavlovian. It takes someone with a lot of will power to separate what happened to them in the past from what may happen to them in the future.

    It is weird that he popped up, though. I would say its a good time to test your will power in an attempt to block it out of your mind. ;)
  • well, I mean, obviously I found it disturbing and interesting, especially since I'd had a convo about him less than 24 hours earlier. of course, someone at the bar could have overheard the convo, or that we walked by on the street where the convo began. he could have allowed f'book access to his email records to search for "friends". or he could have been doing his job somewhere and realize that he'd popped back into my life from that place at some point. who knows? logic has now kicked in, but also curiosity.

    funny, the conversation I had on sat night was fondly recalling the best aspects of him for some random reason to a friend whose wife has a similar dislike to that profession and it's results. the second he contacted me, I remembered how hurt I felt every time he'd just vanish, yet curiosity got the better of me (and the internets make this so easy!) so I started wondering what his life was all about these days, got my answers, and then decided I was cursed to forever be plagued by this person. the brain sure is a fine and odd organ.
  • Sometimes it's a good reminder of why the person is an "ex" from your past rather than an ex you are friendly with.

    I am trying to live by that approach, although it's sometimes hard to stay away (even when you know the person is completely wrong for you).

    Life is too short to waste time on things that will not provide you with happiness (and ultimately everlasting happiness). Be true to yourself and stick to your guns!
  • darla wrote: Sometimes it's a good reminder of why the person is an "ex" from your past rather than an ex you are friendly with.

    I am trying to live by that approach, although it's sometimes hard to stay away (even when you know the person is completely wrong for you).

    Life is too short to waste time on things that will not provide you with happiness (and ultimately everlasting happiness). Be true to yourself and stick to your guns!
    I completely agree. and unless he gets contract work in ecuador or I run into him traveling elsewhere, I'm almost positive I'll never see him again, especially given that with the internets, I can see if our work routines will ever collide again and get out of it somehow. thank GOD.
  • Forget cursing yourself; at this stage of the game you should be concentrating on cursing the Republican candidates, just like Obama's Kenyan cousins (with a little help from Satan of course).
  • doctorj wrote: Forget cursing yourself; at this stage of the game you should be concentrating on cursing the Republican candidates, just like Obama's Kenyan cousins (with a little help from Satan of course).
    well, if that worked, no total crap republican I can't stand would ever win. and hillary would be in the running. satan won't take deals with me, even if I am a lawyer. not cool, satan, not cool. you've totally hooked up other lawyers. you can have my first born, I swear!
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