Now we know their names

Drea wrote: But what if you don't even have health insurance? What is McCain going to do for me?

And this is way old, btw, but somebody told me to either get a job with health insurance, or buy it through my employer. Well, it's proving to be somewhat impossible to find a job PERIOD, and my employer was not offering me health benefits, even as a full time worker. So.

McCain will do nothing for you. His plan is to (supposedly) make it easier for the uninsured to afford to purchase insurance, but the stimulus he is proposing won't get a hangnail removed. If your employer gives you insurance (and most of them don't, anymore; they merely allow you to 'buy in") you will be taxed on the value of that as income.

The Freelancers Union has decent insurance, as does MediaBistro. If you are young-ish, single and healthy, this should be fine, as it will cover an accident. If you have a family, pre-existing condition, or are over 40, have a family history of cancer or other long-term illness, you will need better insurance.

The messiah himself keeps dropping the amount down. Get someone to read it to you dear.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=queencallipygos][quote=eggcream]Uh, 250K is now down to 120K

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1008/Richardson_strays.html

during nobama's debate with Hillary he was saying 97K and is on record as low as 47K. Basically, anyone with a job is screwed in nobama's world. Community work for all.

Uh, that link only says that some guy named Ben Richardson said that. That link says that Obama still says it's 250K.
Don't bother eggcream with facts.

Like I said, he talks about being his brothers and sisters keeper and how we should all help each other out yet he has an illegal aunt and uncle living in a slum and a brother living in a hut on 20.00 a month in Kenya. In other words, liberals want to use our money to help others but not their own money. He even wrote about this aunt in one of his books.

LongTimeSloper wrote: [quote=eggcream]What's that Obama said about being his brothers keeper. First the brother living in a Kenyan hut now his aunt and uncle living in a Boston slum. And you want to trust him with your money? Maybe he should have put them on his informercial last night.

Found in a rundown Boston estate: Barack Obama’s aunt Zeituni Onyango
'Auntie Zeituni', who, with Uncle Omar, dropped out of sight after moving to the US, is backing the presidential candidate from her modest flat

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/world/us_and_americas/us_elections/article5042571.ece

I must be slow today, but, what does where his aunt lives have to do with him being fit or unfit to be president?

LOL!!!!!! Wow! What else would I expect, though? I can only imagine a person who hasn't had a very hard time in life. Who knows if that's the truth, though. All I know is that I work very hard, and it doesn't really make a difference. I apply to 10 different places a day, and it still doesn't matter.

To everyone else, thank you so much for your suggestions. I'm going to look into them, and I hope I can afford something. Right now, it's really hard for me-just got laid off too. However, this may be a blessing in disguise. Maybe I'll find something that will actually offer me benefits and the like. It's just so hard to find anything right now, sadly enough.

eggcream wrote: So keep looking. The Gov't is not there to provide you with health insurance, pay your mortgage, pay your college education and the other lies Nobama/Biden are telling everyone.

[quote=Drea]But what if you don't even have health insurance? What is McCain going to do for me?

And this is way old, btw, but somebody told me to either get a job with health insurance, or buy it through my employer. Well, it's proving to be somewhat impossible to find a job PERIOD, and my employer was not offering me health benefits, even as a full time worker. So.

Drea - can I ask what you do for a living? How long have you been unemployed?

brooklynpotter wrote: he will do nothing for you.

Not true. The McCain plan guarantees access and credits $2,500/yr to a single person for premium payment on a private plan. Which is a lot better than what is happening currently, FWIW.

What else would you expect? What do you expect? Most of us at one time have had a hard time in life. It's how you deal with it that counts. Republicans don't give up and look to the gov't to take care of us. We don't think they can do a better job of managing our money and our life.

You have the right attitude that this is probably a blessing in disguise. Hopefully you'll find a job that offers you the benefits you need. Good luck and you'll especially need it if obama gets in. Watch the unemployment rate get even higher since liberals took over congress 2 years ago.

Drea wrote: LOL!!!!!! Wow! What else would I expect, though? I can only imagine a person who hasn't had a very hard time in life. Who knows if that's the truth, though. All I know is that I work very hard, and it doesn't really make a difference. I apply to 10 different places a day, and it still doesn't matter.

To everyone else, thank you so much for your suggestions. I'm going to look into them, and I hope I can afford something. Right now, it's really hard for me-just got laid off too. However, this may be a blessing in disguise. Maybe I'll find something that will actually offer me benefits and the like. It's just so hard to find anything right now, sadly enough.

[quote=eggcream]So keep looking. The Gov't is not there to provide you with health insurance, pay your mortgage, pay your college education and the other lies Nobama/Biden are telling everyone.

[quote=Drea]But what if you don't even have health insurance? What is McCain going to do for me?

And this is way old, btw, but somebody told me to either get a job with health insurance, or buy it through my employer. Well, it's proving to be somewhat impossible to find a job PERIOD, and my employer was not offering me health benefits, even as a full time worker. So.

Carnivore wrote: You've done ok with your guns, but Republican administration has put a serious damper on your freedom (Patriot Act) and your money (destroyed our economy).

Carnivore - How on earth has the Patriot Act put any sort of damper on my (or your) freedom, much less a serious damper?

And "destroyed our economy"? You're A) really going to claim that the economy is "destroyed"? and try to place the blame entirely on the Republicans?

I think you need to tone down the hyperbole a bit, and try to substitute some actual facts or evidence instead of parroting baseless liberal talking points.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=transplant][quote=Carnivore]You've done ok with your guns, but Republican administration has put a serious damper on your freedom (Patriot Act) and your money (destroyed our economy).

Carnivore - How on earth has the Patriot Act put any sort of damper on my (or your) freedom, much less a serious damper?

And "destroyed our economy"? You're A) really going to claim that the economy is "destroyed"? and try to place the blame entirely on the Republicans?

I think you need to tone down the hyperbole a bit, and try to substitute some actual facts or evidence instead of parroting baseless liberal talking points.

You and eggcream are so far removed from the reality of the past 8 years that it's really not worth engaging you on this. For a McCain supporter to criticize "baseless talking points" in this election is too ridiculous for words.

It's really a simple question - how has the Patriot Act put any damper on my freedoms? I've heard the claim so often since it was enacted, I'd think it would be pretty easy for you to come up with any sort of answer instead of just resorting to insults.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=transplant]It's really a simple question - how has the Patriot Act put any damper on my freedoms? I've heard the claim so often since it was enacted, I'd think it would be pretty easy for you to come up with any sort of answer instead of just resorting to insults.

http://www.aclu.org/safefree/resources/17343res20031114.html

Yes, I know what the Patriot Act is, thank you, I asked you for an example of it infringing upon my freedoms, not a link to a partisan group's website making hypothetical scare claims.

Oh, and by the way, Barack Obama voted in 2006 to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

transplant wrote: Yes, I know what the Patriot Act is, thank you, I asked you for an example of it infringing upon my freedoms, not a link to a partisan group's website making hypothetical scare claims.

Oh, and by the way, Barack Obama voted in 2006 to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

If you can't be bothered to read for yourself, don't ask me to do it for you.

And you're right about him compromising on the bill's reauthorization. Obama is not the left-wing extremist that McCain's campaign tries to paint him as. He is a pragmatic centrist.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=transplant]Yes, I know what the Patriot Act is, thank you, I asked you for an example of it infringing upon my freedoms, not a link to a partisan group's website making hypothetical scare claims.

Oh, and by the way, Barack Obama voted in 2006 to reauthorize the Patriot Act.

If you can't be bothered to read for yourself, don't ask me to do it for you.

And you're right about him compromising on the bill's reauthorization. Obama is not the left-wing extremist that McCain's campaign tries to paint him as. He is a pragmatic centrist.

I did read it. Hence the "hypothetical scare claims."

Nice nuance there, "compromising on the bill's reauthorization." Another way of saying that Obama voted for it. If he really believed that the Patriot Act is such a threat to civil liberties and freedoms, he would have voted against it, pure and simple. I would hope that his devotion to his beliefs would have outweighed his desire to compromise.

And I love that you would accuse me of being divorced from reality, and then claim that Obama is a pragmatic centrist. What a joke.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=transplant]And I love that you would accuse me of being divorced from reality, and then claim that Obama is a pragmatic centrist. What a joke.

He will prove you wrong come January 20th.

Well, if he wins, I hope you're absolutely right, I'd be more than happy to be proved wrong about him. But for that to happen, for him to prove that he's actually not a far-leftist, it will mean that not only will he have to completely go back on virtually his entire voting history so far, but that he'll contradict most every promise he's made during the campaign.
Taxpayer funded healthcare, higher taxes, pulling us out of Iraq, redistributing the wealth, taxing coal plants out of existence, these are not pragmatic centrist positions. These are far left positions.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=transplant]Taxpayer funded healthcare, higher taxes, pulling us out of Iraq, redistributing the wealth, taxing coal plants out of existence, these are not pragmatic centrist positions. These are far left positions.

Baseless talking points. :roll:

Um, so, you don't think Obama supports universal healthcare? Or raising taxes? Or pulling us out of Iraq? Or redistributing wealth? Or taxing coal plants out of existence? Are you sure we're talking about the same person?

transplant wrote: Um, so, you don't think Obama supports universal healthcare? Or raising taxes? Or pulling us out of Iraq? Or redistributing wealth? Or taxing coal plants out of existence? Are you sure we're talking about the same person?

Several, if not all, of those things are supported by McCain as well. FWIW.