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Cheering in the Streets - Page 2 — Brooklynian

Cheering in the Streets

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  • caaahyoko
    caaahyoko
    REPBLOSR
    <small>Get your own knuckles at the knuckle tattoo gun.</small>

    :lol::lol:
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    ^ thanks to enormous funding by the mormon church, of all the folks i don't associate with "traditional marriage". don't even get me started.

    the arkansas thing is cracker jacks anyway you look at it. i seriously doubt they're plagued by having TOO MANY adoptive/foster parents. and it's not just gays -- it's anyone unmarried. stupid, stupid.
  • katbka
    katbka
    Kudos on all the noise! I was stuck on a long and boring conference call with Asia, when I heard my neighbors just go berserk. Switched the TV on, and yup, there I had it, MY NEW PRESIDENT! : ) It was a great excuse to end the call!
  • eggcream
    eggcream
    don't worry, the messiah will take care of the gay marriage issue. he's going to fix everything.... mortgages, gas, college tuition, economy
  • idlewild
    idlewild
    mmm hmmm, just like McCain/Pailin were going to "shake up Washington".
  • pitu
    pitu
    I had a great time yelling at the top of my lungs in PLG and Park Slope.
    All the Manhattanites I work with had no general street party, which is just weird. Upper west side and east village, wtf?
  • manic_depressive
    manic_depressive
    3 more months of BUSHIT...yeah baby the countdown is on.

    MCCain looks like Frankenstein when he raises his arms,lol.
  • sweet tea
    sweet tea
    dude, i'm glad he lost too, but you can't make fun of the arm thing, given that it's from torture. not cool.
  • underhill_mt
    underhill_mt
    sweet tea wrote: dude, i'm glad he lost too, but you can't make fun of the arm thing, given that it's from torture. not cool.
    Agreed. Line crossed. There are plenty of other things about him to make fun of, let's all stick to the ones that are personality and judgment related.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    sweet tea wrote: dude, i'm glad he lost too, but you can't make fun of the arm thing, given that it's from torture. not cool.
    Although in fairness, by the Bush administration definition of torture, which McCain supported, he wasn't tortured.
  • veets
    veets
    Nope Carnivore....you cross the line too with what you said there.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    veets wrote: Nope Carnivore....you cross the line too with what you said there.
    No, I stand by it. I would define what he went through as torture. But although McCain initially had principles on this issue, he ultimately gave them up (as he did on so many other issues in this campaign) and supported the Bush definition.
    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/was-mccain-tort.html
  • veets
    veets
    Carnivore wrote: [quote=veets]Nope Carnivore....you cross the line too with what you said there.
    No, I stand by it. I would define what he went through as torture. But although McCain initially had principles on this issue, he ultimately gave them up (as he did on so many other issues in this campaign) and supported the Bush definition.
    http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2008/08/was-mccain-tort.html

    thanks for posting that link... I get your standing firm on that line.
  • eggcream
    eggcream
    as for Prop 8, look to your own party for blame:

    "If exit polls are to be believed, some 70 percent of African-Americans voted Yes on 8, as did 53 percent of Latinos and 49 percent of Asians; each of these demographics went heavily for Obama; blacks by a 94-to-6 margin. Los Angeles County, heavily minority, went 50-50 on Prop 8. These results have shocked gay activists, who knew from earlier polls, for example, that black voters favored Prop 8, but they were seeing much smaller margins, closer to 50 percent."

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081124/kim
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    eggcream wrote: as for Prop 8, look to your own party for blame:

    "If exit polls are to be believed, some 70 percent of African-Americans voted Yes on 8, as did 53 percent of Latinos and 49 percent of Asians; each of these demographics went heavily for Obama; blacks by a 94-to-6 margin. Los Angeles County, heavily minority, went 50-50 on Prop 8. These results have shocked gay activists, who knew from earlier polls, for example, that black voters favored Prop 8, but they were seeing much smaller margins, closer to 50 percent."

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081124/kim
    I don't think most people were shocked by that aspect of the story. It's ironic and sad, but homophobia is a big problem in the black community, as it is in other religious communities.
  • jamzer
    jamzer
    I too am saddened by the passage of Prop 8 and the homophobic ballot initiative in Arkansas to ban gay adoption (I know, I know it only says you have to be married to adopt but we all know the intent of the law).

    That being said, I think we have made some good progress in general and I am happy that the vote in California was pretty close. I think 25 years ago the same initiative would have passed with 70-75% of the vote.
  • agitpunkt
    agitpunkt
    eggcream wrote: don't worry, the messiah will take care of the gay marriage issue. he's going to fix everything.... mortgages, gas, college tuition, economy
    I'm so sick of this "messiah" nonsense. He's a leader with a world class intelligence and political temperament, and that's what we are looking for. I've voted third party since I could vote and actually had to be swayed to vote for Obama. But honestly, after 8 years of utter stupidity in the executive branch and the prospect of a president who can't even keep it together during a debate and a vice president who would need to study for years to be an idiot, it's not ridiculous for people to be excited about our president elect.

    He's going to make tons of mistakes, and I'm sure I will be disappointed in his policies half the time, but I don't foresee myself being completely embarrassed like I've been for the last eight years.
  • michaelkeys
    michaelkeys
    Agitpunkt wrote: ...after 8 years of utter stupidity in the executive branch and the prospect of a president who can't even keep it together during a debate and a vice president who would need to study for years to be an idiot, it's not ridiculous for people to be excited about our president elect.

    He's going to make tons of mistakes, and I'm sure I will be disappointed in his policies half the time, but I don't foresee myself being completely embarrassed like I've been for the last eight years.
    In a nutshell, indeed.
  • 8thandprez
    8thandprez
    eggcream wrote: as for Prop 8, look to your own party for blame:

    "If exit polls are to be believed, some 70 percent of African-Americans voted Yes on 8, as did 53 percent of Latinos and 49 percent of Asians; each of these demographics went heavily for Obama; blacks by a 94-to-6 margin. Los Angeles County, heavily minority, went 50-50 on Prop 8. These results have shocked gay activists, who knew from earlier polls, for example, that black voters favored Prop 8, but they were seeing much smaller margins, closer to 50 percent."

    http://www.thenation.com/doc/20081124/kim
    Oh, I don't doubt that it's bigoted Democrats that pushed Prop8 to victory. 37.1% voted for McCain in CA and 52.5% voted for Prop8. That means somewhere on the order of 15% of those who supported Obama also supported Prop8. Mystifying, but true.

    I was more surprised that it passed after Obama and Schwarzenegger came out against it.
  • queencallipygos
    queencallipygos
    eggcream wrote: don't worry, the messiah will take care of the gay marriage issue. he's going to fix everything.... mortgages, gas, college tuition, economy
    Oh, I don't think Obama's the "messiah." I never did.

    ....However, I do think he was the REAL maverick in the 2008 election.
  • malaika
    malaika
    I was in San Fran and people were going nuts in the street.

    Unfortunately, it was bittersweet for CA residents with the approval of Prop 8.
  • wild style
    wild style
    Oh, and I just spoke with my gay boyfriend who lives in San Fran. He was shocked and disappointed to find out that his own parents (who love and support him) voted yes on 8.

    I asked "WTF?"

    He said that his mom (who is an educated woman) did not make the connection to equal rights as a whole, or she would have never voted yes. Her church sent a very strong message that this was an issue related to MARRIAGE (which she believes should be man/woman). Somehow she had a disconnect to protection of other rights.

    Sadly, I don't think she was alone in this.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    8thandPrez wrote: Oh, I don't doubt that it's bigoted Democrats that pushed Prop8 to victory. 37.1% voted for McCain in CA and 52.5% voted for Prop8. That means somewhere on the order of 15% of those who supported Obama also supported Prop8. Mystifying, but true.

    I was more surprised that it passed after Obama and Schwarzenegger came out against it.
    In fairness, that's assuming all Republicans voted for t it when there's undoubtedly a large number of fiscal conservative/social liberal Republicans that voted against it. The percentage of Democrats and Independents that voted for Prop 8 was surely much greater than 15%.
  • 8thandprez
    8thandprez
    Carnivore wrote: [quote=8thandPrez]Oh, I don't doubt that it's bigoted Democrats that pushed Prop8 to victory. 37.1% voted for McCain in CA and 52.5% voted for Prop8. That means somewhere on the order of 15% of those who supported Obama also supported Prop8. Mystifying, but true.

    I was more surprised that it passed after Obama and Schwarzenegger came out against it.
    In fairness, that's assuming all Republicans voted for t it when there's undoubtedly a large number of fiscal conservative/social liberal Republicans that voted against it. The percentage of Democrats and Independents that voted for Prop 8 was surely much greater than 15%.

    Fiscal conservative-social liberal Republican. Ha ha ha ha!!! Kidding, right? Those are called Democrats.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    8thandPrez wrote: Fiscal conservative-social liberal Republican. Ha ha ha ha!!! Kidding, right? Those are called Democrats.
    The Libertarian Ron Paul supporters probably didn't vote for Obama or Prop 8.
  • idlewild
    idlewild
    You're going to find homophobia across the board. Religious and political. Religious reasoning is self-explanatory by now, politicos feel it's not productive for the State and/or it's a mental disease. Then there are people who just don't like homosexuals.
  • bob horan
    bob horan
    Oooooooh.......guess we're not all on the same page after all.
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