Can someone please define the borders of north/central/south
Slope?
If someone says "pick up in central slope" what (or where) does that mean?
If someone says "pick up in central slope" what (or where) does that mean?
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my arbitrary determination is that the named streets are north slope
center slope is 1st st to 9th st.
south slope is 9th st to 16th st.
South of the prospect expressway is wish-it-was-park slope. -
Yeah. I have always tended to think of those as the boundaries too, except I don't argue with anyone about where south slope stops in the other direction. At this point it seems to have swallowed up greenwood heights entirely. I don't mind.
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I also make a finer distinction in my mind within North Slope, between what lies south of Union and the triangle north of it formed by Flatbush/Union/4th.
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South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed. -
raw wrote: South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
Eh. So what does that make 9-16th Streets? -
raw wrote: South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
so what's 10th st and 7th ave? farther south-east slope?
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed. -
raw is wrong......vidro3 is correct
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I agree with dixiecupdrinking: center slope begins at Union. Otherwise, vidro3 is right on.
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i'm with booklaw
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vidro3 wrote: my arbitrary determination is that the named streets are north slope
second
center slope is 1st st to 9th st.
south slope is 9th st to 16th st.
South of the prospect expressway is wish-it-was-park slope. -
raw wrote: South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
That's so 1970's!
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed. -
vidro3 wrote: my arbitrary determination is that the named streets are north slope
So what do you call that one block between 16th Street and the Prospect Expressway? No Man's Land?
center slope is 1st st to 9th st.
south slope is 9th st to 16th st.
South of the prospect expressway is wish-it-was-park slope. -
Flexichick wrote: [quote=raw]South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
Eh. So what does that make 9-16th Streets?
In the 1970's it was probably Sunset Park. in the 80's it became South Slope. -
Subject: Re: Can someone please define the borders of north/central/s
snickers76 wrote: Slope?
It means whatever the Real Estate Agent thinks that it means on any given day. There are no official boundaries except for the ones that they invent. The boundaries of South and West Slope continue to creep into the less desirable neighborhoods, past the edge of the park up into what is now known as "Greenwood Heights" and Gowanus. The Prospect Park boundary always stays the same, the North Boundary has gradually crept to Flatbush Avenue where it will probably stay since it meets another desirable neighborhood (Prospect Heights, once known as Crown Heights) that the real estate agency doesn't need to change.
If someone says "pick up in central slope" what (or where) does that mean?
http://gowanuslounge.blogspot.com/2006/09/park-slope-poised-to-take-over-all-of.htmlCall it manifest destiny. Or, at least, the slow creep of Park Slope into Gowanus (plus Sunset Park). We're used to Manhattan-based and out-of-town media calling parts of Gowanus "Park Slope." We have expressed our ire more than once that Holiday Inn Express insists on calling its new Gowanus lodging the "Park Slope" Holiday Inn Express. But, now, the "Park Slope" label is being applied by a publication based close to home: The Park Slope Courier.
http://nymag.com/realestate/articles/neighborhoods/parkslope.htmBoundaries: Stretching from Prospect Park West to 4th Avenue, Park Place to Prospect Expressway.
http://www.epodunk.com/cgi-bin/genInfo.php?locIndex=1384Bounded by 4th Avenue, Flatbush Avenue and Prospect Park West
http://www.newsday.com/topic/nyc-slopenotes1205,0,105874,full.storyAguayo says, though, that this haggling over neighborhood boundaries is nothing new. "First," she says, "people wouldn't go below Seventh Avenue. Then, they wouldn't go below Sixth. Then, Fifth. But there is plenty of new development going in now between Fourth and Fifth. People who paid a fortune to live on Eighth Avenue or the park, don't want to admit that anything other than Eighth and the Park is the Slope," she says, laughing.
And, for most people in the area, the most vivacious part of the neighborhood is the Fifth Avenue corridor. Linda TK, who with her husband tk owns Zelda Victoria, a decorating business long a fixture on Seventh Avenue, has moved to new quarters on Fifth. "The area is hipper, younger," she says. "There are all the new restaurants -- and the rent was going up on Seventh." -
from Jackson and Manbeck's "The Neighborhoods of Brooklyn":
from 14th St on the west to Prospect Park W on the east
from Flatbush Ave on the north to 17th St on the south.
North Slope - from 4th Ave to PPW, Flatbush to 9th
South Slope - from 4th to PPW, 9th to 17th St.
I suppose center slope is strictly to decide whether you can get your kid into 321, eh? -
Ah, so now the south slope CROSSES the highway.
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All Park Slope will soon be designated as "South" Prospect Heights.
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I spoke with some realtors who said they were going to have Spanish Harlem reclassified as the North Slope and Philadelphia the South Slope.
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If the city would be so kind as to add a simple "E" in front of my street address, I could say I lived in the East Village. Would that be so hard?
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raw wrote: South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
lmao, I hope this is a joke.
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed. -
Obamanut wrote: [quote=raw]South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
lmao, I hope this is a joke.
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed.
Regardless of whether it was intended, it's a joke. First off, I've NEVER heard anyone refer to an east or west Slope. Plus, leaving out the blocks btw 4th and 5th aves is lunacy.
On the South Slope side, since there are no official boundaries, you have to go by the experiential aspect of the neighborhood. The area between 9th St and the expressway most definitely FEELS like the Slope... the 7th Ave commercial strip extends all the way to Prospect Ave, the blocks look like Park Slope, the freeway is a natural dividing line.
The blurrier boundary is the one btween South Slope and Windsor Terrace. In my book, the boundary falls midway between 8th Ave and Prospect Park West, south of 15th St. -
neighborhoods are never static, they are always dynamic.
when i was living in sunset park, on 8 ave around 58 st i think. they only had 1 asian store.
now its own neighborhood streching from 30 something street to 60 something street from 7 ave to 9 ave.
when i was living in down town near fort green it was part of the ghetto, ghetto shrink.
point is its how you make it out to be. borders are cultural not defined by physical line someone draws on the map.
i no longer get involved into the prospect heights arguments
, they get much more heated lol. -
filmlover44 wrote:
And since the parkway curves as it goes east, there are more streets in your no man's land as you go east. 18th St is north of the expressway between 7th ave and PPW (and further east, but that would be technically Windsor Terrace).
So what do you call that one block between 16th Street and the Prospect Expressway? No Man's Land? -
I think it is somewhat of a myth that Park Slope was traditionally restricted to the higher avenues and didn't go past 9th St. until real estate people made it bigger in the '80s. Look into the New York Times or Brooklyn Eagle archives and you'll find that locations like 4th Ave. & 15th St. were routinely described as "Park Slope" way back in the 1910s. Perhaps the Slope shrunk around the '50s and that started a brief anomalous period.
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Subject: Basic
Park Slope originally (1970s) did not have any delineating names (north, south, east, west). It was either the good part of Park Slope, or everything else. The North/South distinction was started by Real Estate agents in the 1990s to further mystify the neighborhood and divide it by property values. Clearly, from the hard work of landlords, residents, and businesses from 1970-1990, all parts of Park Slope have changed and grown. The time has come to partition the neighborhood into its logical form.
South Slope = 9th Street to 17th Street (Prospect park expressway), 4th ave to prospect park west (on the border of Kensington)
Center Slope 3rd street to 9th street, 4th avenue to prospect park west
North Slope = 3rd street to Flatbush Avenue, 5th avenue up to Prospect Park West
West Slope = Really, this should be called the lower slope , 17th street to flatbush), 4th Avenue to 2th Avenue (Down to Gwanus Canal)
East Slope = (Not a place)
Case is now closed. I will repost a new string with this list in a few weeks to get the discussion on track. (No offense to all those who thought otherwise).
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"Obamanut" wrote: [quote=raw]
Well, it was a post from "raw". I'd take it as a joke!
Regardless of whether it was intended, it's a joke. -
Subject: Old Skool!
raw wrote: South Slope = 5th Street to 9th Street
When I moved to 9th St 10 yrs ago I was told that 'in the old days you didn't go south of 9th St'. But I also know a 60-yr-old woman who was born & raised at 5th Ave & 17th St, and she says it's always been the South slope (but she IS a RE agent!)
North Slope = Union Street to Flatbush Avenue
West Slope = 6th Avenue to 5th Avenue
East Slope = 8th Avenue to Prospect Park
Case closed. -
I was watching"Dog Day Afternoon" the other day and there was an awning on a storefront on PPW between Prospect Ave and 17th St that said "Park Slope" something-or-other. Now I'd probably consider that to be in Windsor Terrace, but someone (either the real business owner or some overly creative set person) thought that PPW & 17th Street qualified as Park Slope, so I'm not going to argue with them.
That movie was from '75, I believe, so even then I think there was a wide range of answers for the question "what is Park Slope?" -
turtle95 wrote: I was watching"Dog Day Afternoon" the other day and there was an awning on a storefront on PPW between Prospect Ave and 17th St that said "Park Slope" something-or-other. Now I'd probably consider that to be in Windsor Terrace, but someone (either the real business owner or some overly creative set person) thought that PPW & 17th Street qualified as Park Slope, so I'm not going to argue with them.
My grandmother was born and raised on 19st and 7th Ave almost 100yrs ago, and says as far as she knew, that had always been Park Slope to her and everyone else there.
That movie was from '75, I believe, so even then I think there was a wide range of answers for the question "what is Park Slope?"
Needless to say, I'm more inclined to listen to her than to someone who was born and raised in Connecticut and now works at Corcoran. -
Obamanut wrote:
Yeah, and you should ignore also all of those reporters who wrote articles about the borders of "Park Slope", then and now.
Needless to say, I'm more inclined to listen to her than to someone who was born and raised in Connecticut and now works at Corcoran.
I used to live in Montclair and the North side of Montclair (and the post office/zipcode) that served that area was called "Montclair Heights" but "Montclair Heights" was actually the South side of Montclair, where there was a small "Mountain" or hill running along the edge of the township and therefore it was the highest point in town.
Wonder where "Park Slope " came from. Something about a Park, and a Slope I would guess. Hmmm.
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