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Gehry grilled over Atlantic Yards — Brooklynian

Gehry grilled over Atlantic Yards

FYI, from the NY Observer:

http://tinyurl.com/bfn2x

Gehry Grilled in Manhattan

On Saturday afternoon, architect Frank Gehry and New York Times critic Nicolai Ouroussoff discussed architecture (and much more) before a sold-out audience at the CUNY Graduate Center, part of the newspaper’s Arts & Leisure Weekend.

For a while, the conversation glided effortlessly through Mr. Gehry’s oeuvre, complete with an introductory slideshow of renowned works--from the Guggenheim Bilbao to the Walt Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles.

But then Mr. Ouroussoff turned his attention to Mr. Gehry’s controversial Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn. The negative reaction should not have been too surprising: Some bitter residents wore antagonistic t-shirts and stickers condemning the project (i.e. “Welcome to Ratnerville”). Also in attendance, blogger Norman Oder--a critic of both the development and the New York Times coverage--reported in depth on some of the project’s specifics that the architect tried to address.

A self-professed “do-gooder, lefty type,” Mr. Gehry spoke of the future Nets arena and, and shockingly blurted out, “First of all, it’s an empty site.” A handful of jeers followed. Admitting he was getting into “deep shit,” Mr. Gehry switched gears and said that the project will be built in an “existing neighborhood.”

Pleading his case, Mr. Gehry emphasized trying to “break down the scale” of the massive development, using various materials, and dealing with residential concerns that could arise with a basketball arena nearby.

“If a guy comes home from work and he wants to cool out, he’s not barraged by imagery and bright lights,” he said.

Next, Mr. Ouroussoff brought up other less-controversial topics, but the table was set for a rowdy Q&A period, where four critics of developer Bruce Ratner’s project hurled questions at the 76-old architect. Mr. Gehry said that the developer was “politically like me,” and “if it got out of whack with my own principles, I would walk away.”

But that didn’t appease everyone.

First, a Brooklyn architect aficionado accused Mr. Gehry of operating in a “non-Jane Jacobs” manner, with superblocks destroying the “existing neighborhood.” When asked what he would build instead, the questioner ventured into a lengthy explanation that irritated some audience members who had sought a mild-mannered, 92nd Street Y sort of affair. Or at least one where the celebrity speaker gives detailed thoughts on architecture, rather than an unknown audience member.

Next, Peter Krashes, President of the Dean Street Block Association, brought up the Atlantic Yards. (Afterwards, Mr. Krashes confronted Mr. Gehry while signing autographs. Mr. Gehry said he would meet with the community group only after first getting clearance from Jim Stuckey, Vice President of Forest City Ratner).

During the Q&A, Mr. Krashes asked several uncomfortable questions. Not surprisingly, Mr. Gehry’s genial manner abruptly changed.

“It’s not fair to nail me on this here,” he exclaimed. “Let’s do it another time.”

The audience, who each dropped $35 a head to hear Mr. Gehry speak, began clapping loudly and consistently, until Mr. Krashes finally sat back down. The fourth (and final) question about Atlantic Yards mentioned “eminent domain abuse,” effectively closing the subject.

“No comment,” said Mr. Gehry tersely.

Noticeably upset, Mr. Gehry even asked Mr. Ouroussoff at one point if they were almost done with the entire discussion. Finally, the architecture critic ended the unpleasant ordeal, and Mr. Gehry quickly exited the stage.

If only the audience could have stuck to simple questions, like advice to a young architect, being a guest on The Simpsons or hanging out with Brad Pitt.

-Michael Calderone

Comments

  • Mr. Gehry said that the developer was “politically like me,” and “if it got out of whack with my own principles, I would walk away.”
    With this statement, Gehry assumes responsibility for forcing 864 residents from their homes. Some "lefty do-gooder".
  • Damn. I was hoping the thread title was literal.
  • qtrain wrote:
    Mr. Gehry said that the developer was “politically like me,” and “if it got out of whack with my own principles, I would walk away.”
    With this statement, Gehry assumes responsibility for forcing 864 residents from their homes. Some "lefty do-gooder".
    Every time I read of him making those kinds of comments, I just want to scream. I can't help but believe he is being ENTIRELY disengenuous.

    So what else is new, right?

    :evil:
  • His buildings are POMO craptaculars at their best. Let me admit that my graduate studies concerned vernacular architecture. If whatever goes into Atlantic Yards does not pay homage to brownstones, American Town Houses and pre-war multifloors, then he'd better hope that he uses shitloads of stainless steel because I'll be the first one throwing brickbats.
  • FLUTE wrote: [quote=qtrain]
    Mr. Gehry said that the developer was “politically like me,” and “if it got out of whack with my own principles, I would walk away.”
    With this statement, Gehry assumes responsibility for forcing 864 residents from their homes. Some "lefty do-gooder".
    Every time I read of him making those kinds of comments, I just want to scream. I can't help but believe he is being ENTIRELY disengenuous.

    So what else is new, right?

    :evil:

    It's worse than that. Gehry BELIEVES that he and Ratner are both lefty do-gooders.

    Hey, Albert Speer really believed that he was doing good too.

    Right now, Ratner is perfectly content to be Gehry's scapegoat, when the "starchitect" tries to get convince us that he wants to do the right thing but the client won't let him.

    What a great pair they make, the eminent domain-wielding "corporate welfare queen" and the architect/planner who refuses to face the consequences of his work.

    They're exactly the type of lefties that give The Left a bad name.

    Too bad for those in the audience who heckled the Prospect Heights activists. The audience came to hear how Gehry conceived and constructed those amazing bendy buildings and they got a dose of reality. It's not the way they expected to spend $35 and their Saturday afternoon, for sure, but welcome to the real world.
  • Y'know, I've been waiting to do this for awhile, hoping that Mr Gehry (whose work up to Bilbao I do admire, but since has been the scribble-and-sign-it pretentious rockstar) would listen to the criticisms about the type, scale, and effects of this project.

    But, obviously, he hasn't, and based on that article as well as others, I don't believe that he would walk away from Mr Ratner's undoubtedly very large check.

    So: as long as you lot promise to behave, present civilized arguments and hard facts, and not go off into long flaming rants, tell him what you think:
    fog AT foga.com


    I do believe that the actual rail yard footprint should be redeveloped, but this plan is totally unworkable for a variety of reasons.
  • http://www.columbia.edu/cu/news/05/11/frankGehry.html

    [...]

    Gehry reported that his Brooklyn project, a planned residential community adjoining a new arena for the Nets basketball team, is posing an even greater challenge than his Katrina-demolished museum. To be built over a rail yard on Flatbush Ave., it is the largest of Gehry's New York projects (the others are an office building for Barry Diller's media conglomerate and an apartment building in lower Manhattan).

    "It keeps me awake at night," said Gehry of the Brooklyn development.

    While best known for his shimmering forms like the Guggenheim Museum in Bilbao, Spain, and the Disney Concert Hall in Los Angeles, the Toronto-born Gehry, now 76, views himself as an urban planner, whose buildings should enhance their surroundings. "I'm a do-gooder," he said. "I see architecture as a service."

    But as people in Brooklyn expect the borough to be all "brownstones and tree-lined streets," Gehry's project has met with opposition from the community. "You can't do that with a project of this size," he said, adding that he had asked the developer, Bruce Ratner, to scale back the
    project several times.

    Meanwhile, he hasn't convinced Ratner to do something else: bring in other architects to design parts of the project, to ensure a variety of styles. "He wanted to be able to deal with one person, so he refused," Gehry said.

    [...]
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