Franklin b/w Greene and Lex

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=44445&highlight=

my answers are particularly astute.

Modsquad short for modest squad

Yep that's it. I went once on a random Saturday night and really liked it. The bartender was super friendly, and the drinks were stiff and cheap. They were playing 80s music, if I remember correctly. I also remember reading somewhere that they serve hot pockets, lol.

I ended up in there a few nights ago and it was really great. Nice atmosphere, good mixed crowd, and the space is cool. My friend and I got a random impromptu game tournament going. The bartender was friendly and said that they plan to do grilling in the backyard when the weather is warmer. Definitely my new local.

Yeah, I hadn't heard of this place either. I'll give it a try.

We went last night. Pulled up, looked in, saw only white people and got back in the car and left. No thanks.

Damn. I'm on a computer with no sound so I'll have to wait to see Carnivore's post, which I'm guessing will make me laugh. I enjoy your video posts Carnivore.

Cafeaulait's comments made me think of Mooney's, a place that was cool because it wasn't really a scene and because it was a mixed-race and mixed-age bar. That is a rarity methinks. CafeShane, Tom's restaurant, Dean on Underhill come to mind too as catering to a broad range of folks.

I still want to know if that place is serving the HotPockets.

They definitely serve Hot Pockets. 2 for $5 I believe, but I haven't tried it.

I think Cafeaulait is missing out because the first time I went there, it was me (black), two older black guys, and the bartender talking about football and the changing neighborhood and all sorts of random shit and it was really chill. And every other time I've been there, it's been mostly mixed (though on the young side). The bartenders there are really friendly and the place is very welcoming. If Cafeaulait thinks the scene is sorta pale, he/she needs to show up with 5 of their friends and tip the balance. Or there's always Brooklyn Palace next door.

Just wasn't what we were in the mood for.

cafeaulait wrote: We went last night. Pulled up, looked in, saw only white people and got back in the car and left. No thanks.

you really are such a racist. how do you live with yourself?

cafeaulait wrote: Not feeling like going into an all white bar in Bed Stuy does not make people racist.

So I'm guessing that you think the reverse is true as well.

Not feeling like going into an all black bar in Bed Stuy does not make people racist.

LimestoneKid wrote: [quote=cafeaulait]Not feeling like going into an all white bar in Bed Stuy does not make people racist.

So I'm guessing that you think the reverse is true as well.

Not feeling like going into an all black bar in Bed Stuy does not make people racist.

I know this is a discussion that could on and is quite complex, but it's not that simple. Saying that cafeaulait's statement is racist is quite simplistic as well. It's generally accepted the reverse is not true. Racism is just not about race prejudice. There are layers to it. A common definition is power + prejudice = racism.

Therefore an oppressed group without the power generally cannot be racist using this definition. It's an inequality.

I have also seen the definition as: discrimination + power + oppressive group effects = racism. It implies that racism has a layer of institutional and structural power and that racism systematically benefits one group to the disadvantage of another. Black people generally do not have institutional or structural power in this country.

I remember reading this about the issue:
"Thus one can hold to race prejudice - defined as antipathy towards members of a racial group based on that groups racial identify - without being a racist for the simple fact that not all groups have the same access to power. If I am a member of a racial group that does not control the dominant social institutions - that is, I do not enjoy structural power - and that is disadvantaged by the workings of prevailing social relations, then I cannot translate my race prejudice into racism. So saying that a black man is racist because he holds bigoted attitudes concerning white people depends on a faulty definition of racism."

to read more:
http://wwsword.blogspot.com/2008/03/why-black-people-cant-be-racist.html

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what the hell is this?

Maybe it's just me, but when I want to know the definition of a word, I generally go to a dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
— rac·ist -sist also -shist noun or adjective

BTW Ashley = cafeaulait according to the moderator on another thread.

Flo wrote: Maybe it's just me, but when I want to know the definition of a word, I generally go to a dictionary.

http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary

Main Entry: rac·ism
Pronunciation: ˈrā-ˌsi-zəm also -ˌshi-
Function: noun
Date: 1933
1 : a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race
2 : racial prejudice or discrimination
— rac·ist -sist also -shist noun or adjective

Well, this would work for the most part.

But racism has many, many more layers than can be adequately expressed in one sentence on a website. It's laughable to assume you could sum up such a complex issue such as racism with a dictionary definition.

There are a plethora of excellent resources to learn more about racism beyond a simplistic definition. Everyone should be educated about racism. The resources that exist are very enlightening. Your library is an excellent resource.