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I hate Bagel Hole

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  • the chipster
    the chipster
    Best bagels. period. As for "behind the scenes?" They're making frickin bagels!
    Want it toasted? Go somewhere else. A truly good bagel doesn't need to be toasted. Just get 'em while they're hot.
    As for the service? You try putting up with every Park Sloper who demands instant service, but then spends 10 minutes fumbling for their wallet.
    Service with a smile goes for the customer too y'all.
  • anastasia beaverhausen
    anastasia beaverhausen
    You people are weird. :)
  • mpmav1
    mpmav1
    The Chipster wrote: Just get 'em while they're hot.
    Otherwise, they are absolutely the worst bagels ever.

    The reason I don't go anymore is I am sick throwing out my morning bagel that I just purchased 5 minutes earlier because they don't care in the slightest about quality control.

    And with the elitist attitude, I'm not about to ask them if the bagel is hot before buying.
  • jamzer
    jamzer
    Carnivore wrote: [quote=Brooklyn Baby Daddy]Katz's isn't kosher. They'll do whatever you ask.
    Mayo is pareve, not dairy. Not having it on pastrami is an issue of taste, not Jewish dietary law.

    I would also say it is an issue of judgement. Mayo on pastrami! Yech :pukel:
  • eggcream
    eggcream
    Bagel Hole has awful bagels and it's dirty. Get em at La Bagel Delight or even Dizzy's.
  • longtimesloper
    longtimesloper
    Dizzy's? Seriously? Where does Dizzy's get their bagels? I know they get their bread from Lopez Bakery
  • rockergirl77
    rockergirl77
    Postmark gets their bagels from La Bagel and has fair trade coffee.

    Where does Naidre's get their bagels? I always thought they tasted like La Bagel too, which is funny considering their proximity to Bagel Hole.
  • jamzer
    jamzer
    I'm still laughing at the idea that bagels should not be toasted. Seriously - who makes this shit up?
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    eggcream wrote: Bagel Hole has awful bagels and it's dirty. Get em at La Bagel Delight or even Dizzy's.
    :roll:
  • peanuts
    peanuts
    As one of the older folks on this board...and having grown up with fresh bagels every Sunday....nope, fresh bagels are never toasted (but I can't understand why a bagel place won't do it...(to each his or her own)
  • mpmav1
    mpmav1
    This was a good review of all bagels in the slope (given to me by another on the forum)

    http://www.fuckedinparkslope.com/2008/12/bagel-off-08-2-blogs-6-park-slope-bagel.html
  • kosherdave
    kosherdave
    I get that fresh out of the oven bagels don't need to be toasted, but they're not ALWAYS fresh out of the oven.

    I'm more confused about the no slicing thing. Did I read that right? Do they put the schmeer on TOP of the bagel? I can't picture that.

    And I do like the smaller bagels. What I don't like about the bagel hole is that they feel really dirty in that place. And EVERY TIME I have been there, they're rude and incompetent. I liked it when I lived closer to La Bagel Delite around 7th and 5th. Crazy hectic but 95% of the time I got what I wanted, and it was gooood.
  • 8thandprez
    8thandprez
    No, I was asking for cream cheese on the side and they wouldnt slice the bagel that went with it.

    And, I'm sorry, but this is just another example of "we're New Yorkers and we do it the right way and if you expect something different then fuck off". I happen to like ALL bagels toasted. I don't care if they just popped out of Bagel Hole's oven or kettle or steamer or whatever and I don't care if it's frozen Lender's factory-made junk; I just like my bagels toasted. If Bagel Hole can't do something as basic as TOAST something when they're a bread-product shop then they've got some big time problems. And don't even get me started on the slicing again.
  • veets
    veets
    I unbderstand the cream cheese on the side because often they just put too much on the bagel. Either way.. you paid for the bagel and you paid for the cream cheese. Slice the darn thing if that is what the customer wants and toast it!
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Sorry, 8thandPrez. I've backed you on customer service complaints before, but I disagree about this one. You're right that there's no reason they couldn't slice the thing for you. But I don't think their decision to not offer toasting is a customer service issue. They're not a bodega or a midtown deli, they're a real bagel shop, a vanishing breed. They're keeping the original tradition of bagel-making alive, and they should be applauded for it. The customer isn't always right.

    It's funny, because I actually find "we're New Yorkers and we do it the right way and if you expect something different then fuck off" an admirable sentiment.
  • stoney stomp
    stoney stomp
    Haven't yet been to Bagel Hole but La Bagel has DOUGHY bagels. That's not for me. I prefer mine chewy, the way a real bagel is supposed to be :)

    Curious to try Bagel Hole now though :)
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Stoney Stomp wrote: Haven't yet been to Bagel Hole but La Bagel has DOUGHY bagels. That's not for me. I prefer mine chewy, the way a real bagel is supposed to be :)

    Curious to try Bagel Hole now though :)
    Sounds like you will like Bagel Hole.
  • stoney stomp
    stoney stomp
    Carnivore wrote: [quote=Stoney Stomp]Haven't yet been to Bagel Hole but La Bagel has DOUGHY bagels. That's not for me. I prefer mine chewy, the way a real bagel is supposed to be :)

    Curious to try Bagel Hole now though :)
    Sounds like you will like Bagel Hole.

    I will be trying it this weekend. :D
  • mpmav1
    mpmav1
    Stoney Stomp wrote: I will be trying it this weekend. :D
    Just go earlier rather than later.

    (in the morning, that is)
  • idlewild
    idlewild
    I find The Kosher Bagel Hole on CIA between J & K to have the all around best bagels. They're as close to old school as you will get.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Idlewild wrote: I find The Kosher Bagel Hole on CIA between J & K to have the all around best bagels. They're as close to old school as you will get.
    Those are good. I grew up near there and my family would sometimes get those, but we'd usually come to Park Slope to go to Bagel Hole.

    Coney Island Ave is also home to Coney Island Bagels & Bialys, my favorite bialy spot.
  • doldrums
    doldrums
    also toasted bagels are subject to sales tax, while untoasted(ie unprepared) are not. Maybe a consideration to avoid having to collect tax or most likely just paying it themselves. The NYS sales tax agents have been known to drop by bakeries to observe if they are selling prepared food(sales taxable) v unprepared.
  • piano
    piano
    OK, it took me more than 10 years but I finally went to the Bagel Hole and tried their bagels. They were pretty good – better than I thought they’d be. I like them, but I have to say I prefer the big doughy ones at La Bagel Delight (still can’t stand the name though). Honestly, BH’s bagels seem to me to be just a smaller version of LBD’s.

    I like to get two bagels at LBD, one to eat, and the other to use as a pillow when I succumb to the food coma induced by the first one. Also LBD is cheerful and I like the employees there. Although the one guy at BH seemed friendly enough too.

    And I don’t care if it’s true that the bagels there aren’t like bagels are “supposed” to be. I really don’t feel the need to eat for historical accuracy. But it’s good to have another option – I’m not always in the mood for a bagel that can double as a spare tire.
  • southslopesuit
    southslopesuit
    Authenticity is a tricky thing.

    I probably prefer the dense 'authentic' BH bagels over the bigger fluffier 'inauthentic' ones you tend to mostly find. But not always. And ultimately there's nothing wrong with wanting and expecting 'the average', and being unhappy when served the allegedly superior authentic item.

    I have a similar problem with baguettes. I love baguettes, but what I love are the baguettes you get if you walk into any random boulangerie or supermarket in France - light and fluffy, thin crispy crust, light color and sweet flavor. Here in NY, you could kill someone by batting someone with the dense, sinewy, somewhat sour, thick-crusted things that are sold as 'baguettes'. (There are exceptions, of course).

    Now my suspicion is that the producers of these - highly regarded boutique bakeries etc - aren't failing at their baguettes - they're succeeding at creating what they intend to create - authentic heirloom baguettes according to 14th century recipes, or some such.

    They're shooting for something artisan and authentic - but I just want a plain jane, boring, commercial 20th century baguette. Which is sublime.
  • anthonycm
    anthonycm
    I'm just disappointed that the Slush machine they have at Bagel Hole is almost never on when I go in there.
  • scarlett
    scarlett
    Yo- the bodega on prospect ave and 7th has a slush machine. Flavors are red or blue.
  • piano
    piano
    I’m still not sure on what authority people are claiming that one type of bagel is more “authentic” than another, whatever that means. What’s the source of the info? I’d like to see something from some sort of international bagel council on the matter.

    However, I’m inclined to believe that since food portions have grown exponentially over the years in this country, that it’s likely the first bagel ever made – or the Adam bagel – was indeed smaller than the hub cap bagels of today.

    But I really wanted to point out that you actually can’t go anywhere in France and get a wonderful baguette. In France you need a special oven to make the really good stuff and most places don’t have it. They really are better. Any baguette is going to be great when it’s fresh out of the oven; these, however, stay fresh and soft long after they've left the oven. The places with the special ovens have a blue sign out front that says Artisan Boulanger. You need to go to these to get the good stuff, it’s worth it.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    http://www.nytimes.com/2003/12/31/dining/was-life-better-when-bagels-were-smaller.html

    http://newyork.seriouseats.com/2009/10/serious-eats-finds-new-yorks-best-bagel-1.html
  • piano
    piano
    All right Terrace Bagels! Those are the bagels they sell at the Food Coop (and for only 58 cents). Just got one tonight. But those are big.
  • carnivore
    carnivore
    Piano wrote: All right Terrace Bagels! Those are the bagels they sell at the Food Coop (and for only 58 cents). Just got one tonight. But those are big.
    If you go to Terrace Bagels itself you should try the mini-bagels, which I think are much better. They're more like a classic standard bagel size prior to 1980s bagel size inflation, so they have the proper crust to chewy inside ratio.
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