Person hit by vehicle at Carroll and Eighth Monday morning

At 8:20 am there was a pile of fire engines, police and EMS. I choose to walk my kids to school the other way. It did not look good.

Passed by with my kid on way to school around 8:20. Looked pretty bad - a largish man in a suit was being wheeled on a gurney into ambulance. His face was very red - but not completely sure it was blood. Didn't want to stick around.

Subject: Re: Person hit by vehicle at Carroll and Eighth this morning

Carol Street wrote: it says something about a "Possible A.I. job". I have no idea what that means.

A.I. = Accident Investigation, which are done when a victim of a MVA is either likely to die or is dead.

raw wrote: [quote=vidro3][quote=Obamanut]The ferocity of the drivers in North Park Slope during the commuting hours, especially the morning, is completely out of control.

now that is something we can agree on

Agreed!

I agree too.

We don't know the details of how the man got hit by a car. But 8th Ave is just a speedway from the Prospect Exp to Flatbush Ave. This has been studied and discussed and studied and discussed over and over again.

Isn't Carroll & Eighth the very same intersection where a bicyclist, (a father of two, I think) was struck and killed a few months back?

It strikes me as so strange that in our culture, fragile human beings are expected to coexist safely with two ton metal projectiles. How many people die on the roads every day? And for what? Why do we choose to make a world where the simple act of crossing the street can be deadly?

Some News From NY1

http://www.ny1.com/content/news_beats/law_enforcement/93268/brooklyn-man-hospitalized-after-being-hit-by-car/Default.aspx

A man is fighting for his life after being hit by a car in Brooklyn.

It happened around eight in the morning at the intersection of Carroll Street and Eighth Avenue in Park Slope.

Police say the 57-year-old man was hit while crossing the street. He was taken to Lutheran Hospital in critical condition.

The driver remained at the scene. No criminality is suspected.

My condolences to the man's family and friends.

My dad was killed while crossing in a marked crosswalk (in Cranford, NJ) a little less than two years ago. He was the most gentle man I've ever known, and was a month away from finally retiring. My mom happened upon the scene minutes later and watched the man she loved for 26 years die on the pavement.

It is terrible how many unnecessary tragedies are caused by people's impatience and self-importance. So many lives are ruined trying to get to work 3 minutes sooner, or because someone didn't feel like calling for a taxi from the bar...

I guess I'm trying to say that this happens more than we think. Please be careful. Please don't drink and drive.

ringrunner wrote: More news from Streetblog. Apparently "the victim had died shortly after the collision."

http://www.streetsblog.org/2009/02/04/to-nypd-anyone-outside-a-car-is-asking-for-it/

Someone in the Streetsblog comments has a good idea, responding to the NYPD reaction on the scene.

How about quoting the tipster's quote of the detective as you write to:

Deputy Inspector John A. Argenziano
78th Precinct
65 6th Avenue
Brooklyn, NY, 11217

Community Affairs: (718) 636-6410

The 78th Precinct Community Council meets the last Tuesday of every month at 7:30 p.m. at the 78th Precinct station house.

The tipster is right: you have to be going pretty fast for a human head to actually puncture your windshield.

Let the COURTS presume innocence until proven guilty. Not cops.

If there's compelling evidence that possibly criminally high speed contributed to a pedestrian being hit, cops and DAs should actively pursue charges, for #@$ sake. Let the court system protect the accused. Cops and DAs should try to, you know, "protect" the rest of us.

So the Brooklyn Paper Assumes the car was speeding since well neighbors say cars speed on 8th ave and the Streetsblog busybody er tipster says the guy was stationary. Huh, did the car jump the curb?

eggcream wrote: So the Brooklyn Paper Assumes the car was speeding since well neighbors say cars speed on 8th ave and the Streetsblog busybody er tipster says the guy was stationary. Huh, did the car jump the curb?

8th Ave is a speedway, but the Brooklyn Paper's objectivity is out the window. When they say that it is "where cyclist Jonathan Millstein was run down and killed last year", they lose me. Yes, a man died a block away on Sept 12, 2008. But he hit the bus.

Thanks Mougar, I feel safer knowing you like cheese. :cyclopsani:

chico_escuela wrote: [quote=ringrunner] Yes, a man died a block away on Sept 12, 2008. But he hit the bus.

I've heard this also but is there a source? I'm not doubting; but, there's so many rumors that swirl when something like this happens.


The accident or the circumstances? It was all over the internets...
http://rollingresistance.net/word/2008/09/bike-crash-kills-helper-to-troubled-young-men/

A witness posted on Brownstoner -- it looks like the victim was in the crosswalk and the driver was speeding.

I was also in this intersection on the west side of 8th Ave - pedestrian was struck on the east / park side of the 8th Ave in the Carroll St crosswalk. This driver was FLYING up Carroll. Anyone who says sun glare is an issue...clearly we have all had this happen as drivers, however speed should be reduced if that's the case. I would estimate he was going close to 50mph. He flew by me across 8th Ave...I did not hear brakes just the impact and there were no skid marks indicating any attempt to stop. If you saw it, you know how he was hit extraordinarily hard based on how high he flew in the air and forward away from the car. We all share the roads, pedestrians and drivers alike. Neither has more of a right to negligence. We all must take care to know our surroundings, but speed limits were clearly not abided by in this case. It was a horrific scene that could only be caused by excessive speed.

So much for the theory that a 57-year old man decided to dart out from between parked cars without looking. :roll:

So sad that this person lost their life yesterday