$2300 for a 1-bdrm on Fourth Ave and 19th St?
Does anyone have an opinion about this? At the "Fresh Rental" building. 2 bathrooms (don't need them both, but I guess nice), walk in closets, gorgeous kitchen, D/W, all brand new. 780 sq, great view BUT on horrible Fourth Avenue. Is this a rip off? I am on the fence about it. Was $2500, with a free month down to $2300. Any advice much appreciated! Does anyone know of any other new buildings gone rental to check out?
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Definitely a ripoff for that far south on 4th avenue and only 1 bedroom. I've been looking a lot lately on craigslist and there are definitely better places for that much money.
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Total rip off.
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you are paying a premium because it's new. That's a personal decision but I would compare it to other new projects.
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RIP OFF!!!
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great view BUT on horrible Fourth Avenue
As a resident on Fourth Avenue, this comment is atrocious! Fourth Ave is great, close to the train, close to Fifth Ave, great place for parking, I do NOT regret my decision to live on Fourth Avenue whatsoever! Also, you avoid alot of the stroller mayhem you get up-slope.
However, for that money, you should be further North. There is a great looking luxury condo on 4th Ave and 2nd Street, on the corner from me, and I would pay that for a one-bedroom in that complex. It's also closer to the trains, and restaraunts, etc.
"Horrible" Fourth Avenue is such a dreadfully judgmental thing to say though. Perhaps a little more busy and urban, but certainly NOT horrible. (shakes her head) I hate when people do that. How bout I call the Avenue YOU'RE ON horrible??
Whatever, its Friday! Thank goodness. -
katieslope wrote: How bout I call the Avenue YOU'RE ON horrible??
Mine is so go ahead. -
katieslope wrote:
o katiegreat view BUT on horrible Fourth Avenue
As a resident on Fourth Avenue, this comment is atrocious! Fourth Ave is great, close to the train, close to Fifth Ave, great place for parking, I do NOT regret my decision to live on Fourth Avenue whatsoever! Also, you avoid alot of the stroller mayhem you get up-slope.
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"Horrible" Fourth Avenue is such a dreadfully judgmental thing to say though. Perhaps a little more busy and urban, but certainly NOT horrible. (shakes her head) I hate when people do that. How bout I call the Avenue YOU'RE ON horrible??
please don't take it personally
Walk a few blocks on 6th Ave, then walk a few blocks on 4th Ave.
There's a big difference, it's just how it is.
I'm a non-stroller-pushing lover of Park Slope, living between avenues.
4th Ave is not More Urban. It has more car traffic and less foot traffic.
Living on the avenues is always louder and less attractive because of the business zoning - 5th or 7th Ave would be a drag with the restaurant/bar foot traffic.
back to the topic....
That new apt building the OP is asking about sounds like a rip off for sure. Check out the new places for shoddy work...read threads about the Jewish for instance (next nabe over.) -
First: that is a rip off. I have three floors of a brownstone plus garden for not much more. And why would you need two bathrooms?
Second: 4th ave is great! It is what keeps all the rabble from coming down into my hood. I've lived down here in Gowanus for 8 months and haven't seen a single stroller. So sweet. -
Where I live is facing up-slope on 4th Avenue. No noise. No drama. I mean, I think that anyone takes someone else calling where they live, not, less than ideal, but HORRIBLE??! I mean, come on.
But yeah, avenues in general have more foot traffic and are louder. My friends on 5th Ave say their apt is MUCH more noisy then our spot on 4th. I think the cross streets are key.
Eh, I just try to fight elitist statements when I can. (shrug) I'm also more middle-class than anything, so I suppose if you have the money, go upslope, but only if you have a baby/dog, or you might get a massive headache trying to traffic around them. Still great areas, obviously, I would live there if I could afford it.
But if you have a car, honestly, 4th ave = ideal. -
Rip off. I was in a 3 bed/1bath on 4th and 22nd two years ago for $1850. Granted it was not a luxury building, but still. $2300 sounds just absurd.
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Well, you won't get a brand new building with gorgeous kitchen in North Slope for $2300, so I guess it depends on what you're looking for and what's important to you. When I looked for my place, a big nice kitchen was more important that which avenue or how far south I am, so I was willing to pay a little extra if I found it. I do think that this building overshot the luvury factor and that block isn't really great for it, and now they can't sell or rent the apartments, so you could always offer 2k and see what they say. The luxury building on 19th/20th and 7th had the same issues and is still mostly empty or renters as a result.
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I predict costs will start to come down as vacancy rates get higher and higher. Hold out, maybe you will get a steal!
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$2500 for 4th ave & 19th st? I think that price is scary.
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If you have that kind of money to pay in rent, why not just buy?
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There are lots of reasons people rent and not buy...and sometimes it's because you can't get a mortgage or because you don't have the down payment
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katieslope wrote:
Living on Fourth Avenue is like living on a highway.
"Horrible" Fourth Avenue is such a dreadfully judgmental thing to say though. Perhaps a little more busy and urban, but certainly NOT horrible. (shakes her head) I hate when people do that. How bout I call the Avenue YOU'RE ON horrible??
Whatever, its Friday! Thank goodness.
And you're perfectly welcome to call Seventh Avenue (where I live) horrible. -
Peanuts wrote: There are lots of reasons people rent and not buy...and sometimes it's because you can't get a mortgage or because you don't have the down payment
...ditto the desire to move in a year and/or the pleasure of having something break and being able to call the super. -
I bet you can talk them down a hundred bucks a month or more, which might make your decision easier. That's more than what we pay for a 1/br 1/ba b/w 4th and 5th 15 blks further north, our place is in a brownstone and not totally new so you'll have to make your own decision.
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Subject: Apologies for saying "horrible" Fourth Ave
I meant it more in the context of whether the rent should be further discounted because it is on a almost highway like street... -
Subject: Re: Apologies for saying "horrible" Fourth Ave
maggie718 wrote: I meant it more in the context of whether the rent should be further discounted because it is on a almost highway like street...
We seem to be replying "yes". -
Subject: Re: Apologies for saying "horrible" Fourth Ave
maggie718 wrote: I meant it more in the context of whether the rent should be further discounted because it is on a almost highway like street...
I think people are saying it should be further discounted because it is overpriced. I don't think the location of the street has anything to do with it. -
Also, I think some of us are saying this price is more than we can afford to pay for a 1-bedroom apartment or more than what we would choose to pay even if we can afford it, and it is historically high for the area.
It brings to mind (my mind at least) one of the other news stories of the day:
http://www.nycfuture.org/content/about/media.cfm -
Seriously a rip off. A friend of mine just moved into a huge one bedroom on 17th and 5th for something like $1700... it's not new, but it is really nice and has a huge patio. You can do better.
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You would, however, be in a building which is occupied by a mix of renters and owners, as opposed to just renters
...some people believe that owners are quieter and better people to live around. (I am not among the people who believe this, but mention it simply because people seem to be pay more to live in a sublease arrangement in a owner building, than they would in an all owner building).
...please don't call me an elitist snob unless you absolutely need to so, it's Friday damn it! -
If its a new construction it might not be such a bad deal. There is nothing wrong with 4th avenue but there is definitly a difference between the upper avenues and 4th.
On that note, I would get a nice 1 bedroom in a north park slope brownstone if I was you (especially since you don't need a 2ed bathroom). you can find something really nice on a tree lined block for around $2200 (nice size one bedroom with tall ceilings, fireplace....etc).
In a few months the market would be saturated with new grads and implants into Brooklyn. This is the best time to rent. By april there will be lots of people looking...especially in park slope.
........................best of luck. -
Even a brand new building... definitely keep looking. I also have a friend in a brand new apt, granite, stainless steel, w&d, gorgeous 2br on 4th and like 2nd and she pays around $2k. Plus, better area (coming from someone who lives in South Slope) and $500 less.
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Let's talk about new vs old construction. My impression of the new places (from what I've heard and what I've visited) is that there's some attractive looking newness and some ticking off the checklist like granite counters, but a high degree of cheap infrastructure. (The image of rust trails off the balconies of a new building comes to mind, indicating the contractor saved a penny on each screw by not getting galvinized.) A real estate/housing inspector friend of mine told me he saw a lot of cheap shortcuts in terms of things like thickness of sheetrock.
Contrast that with 100-150 year old construction . . . more solid, soundproof materials and craftsmanship. I'd rather a renovated old building or apartment
Or are these kind of great old apartments owned and not rented? Leaving the new buildings for newcomers.
Thoughts?
I don't particularly appreciate someone wanting these buildings because they are more suburban and car friendly as mentioned above. (Now we're getting into the This Threatens To Ruin My Nabe territory.) I always thought that's what the block upon block of large apt buildings on the upper east side were for...
ugh. -
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And yes, even gut renovated apartments like mime are just NOT as solid as old pre-wars etc. -
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