Athletic Center or gym at the armory?

apple pants · February 2009

Does anyone know if the armory on 14th and 15th St. is still being converted into a gym or athletic center? If so, when does it open?

longtimesloper · February 2009

Is that still happening and is it going to be open to the public?

apple pants · February 2009

Oh, I just assumed it would be open to the public (for a fee).

raw · February 2009

If it will be a gym, will it be a chain or mom and pop gym?

brooklynpotter · February 2009

hopefully it will never open. if you lived here, you'd know why

puckbrooklyn · February 2009

This is the latest as of December '08...

http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/31/49/31_49_sp_armory.html

ringrunner · February 2009

brooklynpotter wrote: hopefully it will never open. if you lived here, you'd know why

I think it will bring some life to some streets that are kinda deserted.

School buses during the day and some grown-ups coming to work out in the evenings. Not the end of the world.

As a board member of the Prospect Park Track Club I met with the management of the Y last week.

We were hoping to get to use the track this winter, but that does not look like it is gonna happen. The Y seems to be involved in some endless negations with the City. The track is built, once the Y and the City work things out there is a lot of running!!

brooklynpotter · February 2009

the only street that is deserted is 15 between 7/8, and once those hideous buildings get filled it will be less so.

all this will do is make parking worse and bring more kids here at night

bephf · February 2009

I can't wait for this thing to open already. Who wants to go to Williamsburg to run sprints on a track? Not me. Not me.

furrygreyboy · February 2009

bephf wrote: I can't wait for this thing to open already. Who wants to go to Williamsburg to run sprints on a track? Not me. Not me.

Why don't you try the track at Red Hook?

vidro3 · February 2009

brooklynpotter wrote: hopefully it will never open. if you lived here, you'd know why

why?

brooklynpotter · February 2009

see above: parking, tons more kids around (trust me, the movie theater brings plenty). it will turn a semi-quiet nabe into a far louder and more crowded one.

plus, the fact that 15th between 8/ppw is a bus route for 2 buses, and a thoroughfare for cops and ambulances, the street is already crowded enough--not to mention adding more cars to the dangerous turn to 15th from the circle, where there is no light.

it's a recipe for ugliness on so many levels

apple pants · February 2009

Potter,

Sure, there may be some more traffic, but hopefully there will be some more restaurants opening up too like a Fuel type of place.

I doubt there will be that much more traffic. Most people will probably walk there or take the bus, which would only improve (I hope) bus service.

It will also be nice to have another fitness option in the slope. An inside track, that kind of rocks. Indoor soccer, word up!

They should have gotten the folks from Harbor fitness to run the place though. They know how to get stuff done. The Y is dirty.

brooklynpotter · February 2009

apple--if parents are driving their children to school during the daylights hours and totally congesting the streets, then parents will be driving over to this facility. i'd guess a whole lot of children won't be walking there.

apple pants · February 2009

Potter,

Park Slope streets were made to accommodate tanks, what are a few more cars!

I do hope you are wrong. I think we can have it all, a new athletic center, great food, traffic that moves.

I wonder what this all means for the women’s shelter?

brooklynpotter · February 2009

the shelter, unfortunately for the neighborhood, is staying. yet snother reason parents will want to drop off their children.

if you lived down here you'd see the havoc this may cause

apple pants · February 2009

I am glad the shelter is staying. Battered women should have a nice neighborhood to live in.

I have seen issues arise, but taking care of the abused is a good thing, not something to be ashamed of.

brooklynpotter · February 2009

the shelter is not for battered women, it's for mentally ill drug addicted women.

apple pants · February 2009

nuff said.

brooklynpotter · February 2009

apple pants, you obviously have no idea what it's like to live down here

brooklynpotter · February 2009

and this is not a domestic violence situation

apple pants · February 2009

Potter,

I can throw a stick at the front door of the shelter from my apartment - that is how close I live. So please, don't tell me I have no idea. You obviously do not know what you are talking about.

Many of the women there are abused – drugs are only one piece of the puzzle.

I have seen fights, women walking around almost naked, shop keepers getting annoyed, police being called, but these women have to go somewhere. Turning our backs on those most in need is not how I roll.

I want the shelter and all of the problems that come with it in my neighborhood. Sure, it can be run better, but I don’t want to be one of these “not in my backyard” Park Slopers.

apple pants · February 2009

Potter,

This should be your profile picture:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/2036369621_b3726166f8.jpg?v=0

brooklynpotter · February 2009

i know what i'm talking about, apple pants, because i, too, could "throw a stick" from the shelter to my home.

i know all about the women, i see and hear them daily. i see their boyfriends shooting up in the circle, i see them acting like maniacs and stealing from royal. i have no problem with a shelter in my neighborhood; i have a problem with THIS shelter in my neighborhood, because the women don't appear to be taken care of in any way and this helps neither them, the children they come with, nor the rest of us in the community.

i don't love the constant ambulance sirens, that's for sure.

thing *are* better here than they were 5 years ago when i was the one who got the expired scaffolding removed by calling channel 2 news. the junkie boyfriends moved out from underneath and there are likely less of them than there are today.

but adding MORE people to 15th street, where large buildings are being built (which will bring more residents with them) isn't the best idea.

apple pants · February 2009

Potter:

Whose backyard should these women live in?

I vote ours.

brooklynpotter · February 2009

apple pants wrote: Potter,

This should be your profile picture:

http://farm3.static.flickr.com/2411/2036369621_b3726166f8.jpg?v=0

i don't believe i ever said that, apple pants

brooklynpotter · February 2009

i didn't say i didn't want these women there, i said that i didn't want THIS SHELTER there because it's not helping the women and it's hurting the community.

apple pants · February 2009

Potter,

I believe what you are saying about the boyfriends shooting up, but I have NEVER seen that. What I do see and smell is middle class white people (which I am one) smoking dope. Not sure why drugs are good for some people and bad for others. Walking in Prospect Park any Saturday in the summer smells like a Bob Marley concert.

I have also seen middle class white kids in the Slope get caught stealing - should we kick them out of Park Slope too? The families clearly should be managing the home better.

My point is that it is easy to suggest kicking people out when they are not able to advocate for themselves. I am against that.

eggcream · February 2009

apple pants wrote: Potter:

Whose backyard should these women live in?

I vote ours.

Yours?

brooklynpotter · February 2009

applepants, take a search through brooklynian archiives to see posts of the junkies shooting up... or just ask hamilton. several buildings on my block (15th) had to pay to install gates on our basement steps because the junkies were either sleeping there or shitting there.

i'm not talking about smoking pot. i'm talking about mentally ill junkies who need to be supervised.

apple pants · February 2009

eggcream,

They already live in my front yard.

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