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Subject: Re: Lay low?

JimmyJones wrote: Re: reaction (fight vs let it go)

I have the same experience as alafairnadia, i.e. unless you react you'll never be taken serious. "Best lay low" is what got the neighborhood in the trouble it was in 7+ years ago. A few screwing it up for the rest. Nice people (95%+) cowering in fear for the few troublemakers.

Where I grew up I had many 'parents' (neigbors etc.) If we did something wrong, they'd take us to our mothers or punish us themselves to teach right from wrong. It used to be the same in the USA I hear, before people started looking away...

Anyway, may you react in the most socially conscious way when it happens to you...

JJ


[quote=Captain M][quote=dailyheights]Best to lay low. I know a guy, also European, who got shot in the foot for a similar show of (alcohol-fueled) bravado.

A girl got shot down in the LES last year for challenging the mugger, "what are you going to do..shoot me"....


"Laying low" and "staying under the radar" is not cowering in fear, they are very different things. You sound like you have a lot to learn in the street smarts department.

You are the one screwing up for all of us becasue now he knows its not enough to pretend to have a gun, next time he might pull one.

Subject: Re: Lay low?

jayce wrote: Oh, and I didn't get the sense that Alafairnadia was arguing your same point. But maybe thats my misguided read. :roll:

all I was really trying to say is that how you react to a situation depends on the situation. ignoring the threatening behavior of some teens in my particular harlem neighborhood didn't work, saying "no" didn't work, so I resorted to other methods. I also lived on and traversed VERY busy streets and lived in a 6 building complex all of which had doormen. we also had a security guard that drove around in a jeep after 7 p.m. so I knew that, while I could have been alone with the teens on the street, at any given moment cars could drive by, people would walk by, or I could run into a building (even if it wasn't mine) and find protection. so I felt 'safe' being more confrontational.

but when a very short person (unpc term - midget) was walking toward me one evening with a pitbull and started moaning and saying how much he'd like to fuck me, I was *really* frightened and upset. I was on Sterling, it was dark out, there was no one around. I considered running, but he had a large dog that was lunging at me and all I could hope was that he wasn't going to attempt to follow through with his desires. I didn't say a word to him.

so yeah, I think situations change, and our perception of our relative safety changes. I *think* raising some level of challenge, or refusing to comply with someone threatening you is generally effective, but I also believe that we should go with our gut - we have instinct for a reason. so yeah, jayce, I wasn't making JJ's point at all.

Subject: Re: Lay low?

PHeightsGirl wrote: [quote=alafairnadia]
I considered running, but he had a large dog that was lunging at me...

OMG I almost pissed myself while laughing at this odd scenario. Was the dog bigger than the midget himself?

(Sorry, alafairnadia, I *really* don't mean to minize your fear at the situation. I'm sure it was gross. I've just never seen a midget with a big dog before. In fact, now that I think about it, I'm not sure if I've ever seen a real midget before. I gotta get out more.)

well, there's a short (like 5'4" maybe?) guy in our 'hood that has a big dog and it's funny enough to see him walking it.

in retrospect, the situation was funny. at the time it was really bizarre and frightening - I felt like I was in a deleted scene from 12 monkeys. the guy was taller than the dog, but the dog probably outweighed him. ugh. I remember walking into soda after that and telling people the story and getting free drinks for having the weirdest walk to soda ever.

Apparently he did eventually think better of his original post. :roll: However, most of it is preserved in a quote for posterity.

wow. :shock: :shock: :shock:

JimmyJones, lovemynabe has either removed the personally identifiable details from his/her quote, or one of the mods did it. I didn't think your post was the wisest thing to put online in the first place, but I also don't think it's fair for you to remove the whole thing after people obligingly had a discussion about it, leaving only a confusing skeleton of a thread behind. I guess we've all learned a useful lesson in think-before-you-post.

EmilyM wrote: .....I guess we've all learned a useful lesson in think-before-you-post.

Dont you mean ask-your-wife-before-you-post?