Bar owners...it's called the Buy Back..look into
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BoogieKnight wrote: [quote=Cool The Kid]Are you a chick?
Todo hombre.
What would a woman be doing in a bar?
Ur level of entitlement is just the same as that of some very princessy chicks I've encountered
"Why not phone up Robin Hood
And ask him for some wealth distribution"
-Super Left Front Man Joe Strummond -
WhyFi wrote: [quote=pitu]Maybe it was long enough ago that you remember NYC trying to make a regulation about NO buybacks. It was sometime before 2003, but I don't remember the details. I do remember my coworkers going insane.
Doesn't ring a bell; it was 2003 that I was bartending there.
I don't remember it, either. But if I recall correctly, 2003 was the year of the smoking ban, so it may have flown under the radar in comparison. -
Cool The Kid wrote: Ur level of entitlement is just the same as that of some very princessy chicks I've encountered
as per dictionary...en·ti·tle·ment
"Why not phone up Robin Hood
And ask him for some wealth distribution"
-Super Left Front Man Joe Strummond
Pronunciation: -ˈtī-təl-mənt
Function: noun
Date: 1942
1 a: the state or condition of being entitled : right b: a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract...
3: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges
Entitlement usually infers that the person feeling "entitled" believes that things should be given to them because of their exalted status.
Myself and those expecting buybacks do so because in the course of our bar-hopping, drinking lives we are MOST TIMES given buybacks after we and our friends have purchased a few rounds and behaved ourselves.
The bars that do not offer buybacks are the rare ducks. If one goes to 4-5 bars a week and all but one buys back, that one bar sticks out.
Its a bummer when an otherwise cool bar so conveniently close to home seems to not buy back.
In the interest of fairness (posters have gotten them) and laziness (so damn close), I'll try FP again and I'll definitely try the smaller room. -
I vaguely remember the ban. They tried to stop buy backs, 2-for-1 happy hours, and ladies' night. Obviously it either never passed or they have better things to do than try to enforce it.
As a bartender in my past life, I know that buy backs are a necessity, and I've never had an employer chastise me for giving away a few free drinks, knowing that I was helping them build a loyal client base. -
I care not for your petty feuds! Let's get down to the brass tacks. Where can we get good bybacks!!
BAr Sepia treated me, Papi, Mougar, Carny and Nomad pretty well last night. Comp'd us a round of Jameson shots.
I still go there, but I have a deep resentment towards Great Lakes. I spent $100 dollars there with my sister and didn't get 1 fucking buy back. Plus the asshole bartender was a snobby hipster. -
Mamacita wrote: I still go there, but I have a deep resentment towards Great Lakes. I spent $100 dollars there with my sister and didn't get 1 fucking buy back. Plus the asshole bartender was a snobby hipster.
Wow. Sorry. But don't take it out on Lakes: this is clearly an example of why you should hate the playa and not the game.
At joints I love, that treat me right, there is always a night or two I refuse to go because of who is behind the bar. Whether they are clueless, stupid, don't like you, or they just feel like giving away your buy backs to someone they wanna hookup with instead, money's too tight to be giving that particular asshole bartender your business.
Please tell me you were paying with a credit card and left an overall $1 tip. That's what I do in those circumstances. -
Mamacita wrote: BAr Sepia treated me, Papi, Mougar, Carny and Nomad pretty well last night. Comp'd us a round of Jameson shots.
??? I thought Carny bought them.... -
No he took the check back and redid it with a buy back, it was pretty nice of him.
MK, yeah. It was the bartender's fault. That's why I still go there. I don't think I've seen him since, which is good. He was a dick. And yes, i gave him his full (un)deserved tip $$. I'm an idiot. :x -
Mamacita wrote: MK, yeah. It was the bartender's fault. That's why I still go there. I don't think I've seen him since, which is good. He was a dick. And yes, i gave him his full (un)deserved tip $$. I'm an idiot. :x
I don't think you'll see him there: Great Lakes has an all-female staff now. -
BoogieKnight wrote: [quote=Cool The Kid]Ur level of entitlement is just the same as that of some very princessy chicks I've encountered
as per dictionary...en·ti·tle·ment
"Why not phone up Robin Hood
And ask him for some wealth distribution"
-Super Left Front Man Joe Strummond
Pronunciation: -ˈtī-təl-mənt
Function: noun
Date: 1942
1 a: the state or condition of being entitled : right b: a right to benefits specified especially by law or contract...
3: belief that one is deserving of or entitled to certain privileges
Entitlement usually infers that the person feeling "entitled" believes that things should be given to them because of their exalted status.
Myself and those expecting buybacks do so because in the course of our bar-hopping, drinking lives we are MOST TIMES given buybacks after we and our friends have purchased a few rounds and behaved ourselves.
The bars that do not offer buybacks are the rare ducks. If one goes to 4-5 bars a week and all but one buys back, that one bar sticks out.
Its a bummer when an otherwise cool bar so conveniently close to home seems to not buy back.
In the interest of fairness (posters have gotten them) and laziness (so damn close), I'll try FP again and I'll definitely try the smaller room.NAh ur readin too far into the definition. IT says what it is right there- belief that one is entitled to certain rights or privileges, in this case getting a free drink after purchasing a few
Outside of the fact that they used to do it for you, I don't see why they are obligated. My mom used to breast feed me. My dad used to pay for my food and shelter. OR more relevant to the discussion, my exes used to give me the sex. But things have changed and those arrangements are no longer in place... and I dont feel anyone owes me anything. I think its the same deal... times are rough, toughen up. -
Mamacita wrote: No he took the check back and redid it with a buy back, it was pretty nice of him.
He didn't comp the whole round, but we did get a bunch of buybacks. I covered the rest. I like that bartender. -
Carnivore wrote: [quote=Mamacita]No he took the check back and redid it with a buy back, it was pretty nice of him.
He didn't comp the whole round, but we did get a bunch of buybacks. I covered the rest. I like that bartender.
Between you and the bartender and you again and that weird guy and the one I bought myself, I think there were five friggin shots. What the hell! -
Which bartender was it? The one time I've been to Sepia (and I need to go back, but I keep forgetting about it), James was working. I recognized him from when I used to hang out at 7B.
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I know I'm getting up there a bit in age but my understanding of Brooklyn bar etiquette going back to 1968 is that bar owners set the buyback policy and it's usually on your fourth drink but it's a custom not an entitlement and I think it is actually illegal under Stale Liquor Authority rules, or at least that's what some bar owners & tenders will tell you if you question them about their buyback policy. Bartenders HATE it when you tell them it's their turn to buy one back esp. if you're a newbie, it's crowded and/or you're a lousy tipper.
Once you become a regular you are usually treated fairly buyback wise but even then if the bar is three deep don't expect the bartenders to keep track of exactly how may drinks you have had. They sometimes catchup once the crowd thins out again if you are a regular. They also don't buyback anyone they may consider an a-hole because they want you to leave & stay away.
Also if the bartender is very young he/she may not be aware of the buyback traditions.
If you don't like their buyback policy you can always drink elsewhere. -
tip : buyback = entitlement : custom = pot : kettle
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anthonycm wrote: Which bartender was it? The one time I've been to Sepia (and I need to go back, but I keep forgetting about it), James was working. I recognized him from when I used to hang out at 7B.
Sadly, James isn't at Sepia anymore. Not sure if/where he's working locally now. -
ntfool wrote: [quote=anthonycm]Which bartender was it? The one time I've been to Sepia (and I need to go back, but I keep forgetting about it), James was working. I recognized him from when I used to hang out at 7B.
Sadly, James isn't at Sepia anymore. Not sure if/where he's working locally now.
What- did the owner finally get tired of him sitting on his ass and putting his dirty shoes up on the ice bin? Or was it the complaints of him overcharging drinks? Or maybe it was the 'tude.... -
i was drinking with some friends at great lakes last summer and we were the only people there. The bartender gave us a whole round of free drinks.
havent seen her there again and I dont go often but thats my story. -
sir_eccles wrote: It's the entitlement aspect of the whole thing I don't like.
Sorry, sir or madam. The buyback is ancient code of bar etiquette.
The OP comes across as someone who was probably being an ass after his fifth pint and didn't deserve any special attention from the staff. My apologies if you weren't but don't go around demanding free stuff. If you get a free drink in the future be grateful, don't gloat, don't be cheap.
It's not "entitlement", its a quid pro quo.
If you own and operate a bar, you are in the hospitality business, in the classic sense of the word.
In the net reckoning, it pays to make people feel taken care of. -
i have seriously never heard of this before in my life.
only free drink i every got was a free shot at franklin park on my birthday after i gave the bartenders cupcakes... -
xlizellx wrote: i have seriously never heard of this before in my life.
Be it because of regional, generational or socioeconomic differences or maybe just because the world is so damn big and there's so many of us living our own separate lives it seems that there's two distinct camps -
only free drink i every got was a free shot at franklin park on my birthday after i gave the bartenders cupcakes...
Those to whom buybacks are as common as the rising/setting of the sun and...
Those to whom buybacks are as rarely/never seen as some rare Amazonian bird.
And never the twain shall meet. -
I generally don't have a problem with buybacks but I think it has more to do with the bartender you buy from then the establishment itself. Some bartenders are great with buybacks and for some it is a foreign language that they do not understand. All bartenders are not equal and a good rapport with one is essential if you go out frequently. You know, the ones that see you walk in and know exactly what you are drinking before you get to the bar because they pay attention to their customers. Those are the ones that I see give buybacks. The ones that can't get an order straight if you wrote it down, text it and called on the phone are the ones that are not very buybacky.
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Subject: Re: Bar owners...it's called the "Buy Back"..look
joseph11 wrote: I've never had a problem with buy backs. Were you rude or just a shitty tipper. Not sure if your a sucky tippler, but judging by you post you were probably rude.
I've been out drinking with the OP many times and I swear that neither applies. -
Subject: Re: Bar owners...it's called the "Buy Back"..look
Christina wrote: [quote=joseph11]I've never had a problem with buy backs. Were you rude or just a shitty tipper. Not sure if your a sucky tippler, but judging by you post you were probably rude.
I've been out drinking with the OP many times and I swear that neither applies.
Ahhh, thanks babe
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Remembered this post when I was at Franklin Park on Saturday--didn't get the bartender's name at the back (original) bar but he was great, friendly as all hell, and treated everyone I was with to at least a drink or two. Good times all around.
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I think it is definitely a NY thing BTW, my friends and I were in DC for the inauguration and spent considerable time and money $1200 at Old Glory and asked about buybacks. The bartender had no idea what we were talking about and he asked the manager who had no idea either. We did, however, get a buyback...16 rounds later.
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bmfesq wrote: I think it is definitely a NY thing BTW, my friends and I were in DC for the inauguration and spent considerable time and money $1200 at Old Glory and asked about buybacks. The bartender had no idea what we were talking about and he asked the manager who had no idea either. We did, however, get a buyback...16 rounds later.
I would not look to Old Glory as a barometer of D.C.'s take on the buyback. The Tombs (not sure if that's still open) and Rhino would both give out the occasional free round when I lived there four years ago.
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