Community Supported Agriculture in PH
Some people on this board had seemed interested in being involved in CSA. Here's information on an upcoming meeting.
The Prospect Heights CSA (Community Supported Agriculture) will be having its first meeting on Tuesday, February 21st at 5:30PM at
Namaskar, 643 Vanderbilt Avenue near Prospect Place. The meeting is for
all those interested in organizing the foundations of the CSA, and the
farmer will be in attendance.
If you want to be a part of the core of the Prospect Heights CSA but
can't attend this meeting, or if you're interested in being a member,
please email Victoria and Anna at [email protected].
Community Supported Agriculture is a great way to get fresh, organic
vegetables, fruits, eggs and flowers right to your neighborhood
directly from a farm upstate for a very reasonable price.
To find out more about CSAs, visit www.justfood.org, or see the sites
of other Brooklyn CSAs: www.parkslopecsa.org or www.chcsa.org.
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Can someone explain the purpose of this group?
Some friends in Cobble Hill belong to a CSA, and if I understand it correctly, this is what happens:
1. They pay a monthly or yearly fee.
2. Every week or so, the farmer drops off a load of organic produce (including some really interesting stuff that you would not typically find in the supermarket)
3. By being a member, you get to take home what you think you'll use for the week, basically on an "honor system".
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Here's some basics on CSAs. However, its all said with the preface that everything varies a bit from CSA to CSA and, since ours is still forming, I don't know whether or not some specifics have been decided.
1 - Its intended as a way to provide people with high quality produce at a low price while at the same time giving local farmers economic stability and an increased chance of surviving.
2 - Prices for us are cheaper because we are not paying for the supermarket's rent or the packaging, marketing, and shipping of the produce.
3 - Small local family farms often have trouble competing with large commercial farms. Because CSA members pay for their share upfront, these farms are able to have the money to invest in seeds, etc at the beginning of the season.
4 - Generally, shares are for sale in the winter and spring. Then, each week, from roughly June through November, the CSA farmer delivers the week’s share to a central neighborhood distribution site for pick up by members.
5 - Typically, each week’s share consists of 7-10 types of vegetables, enough for a family of 2-3 people. Some NYC CSAs offer half shares or multiple size shares.
6 - While not a rule, its not uncommon that share price fluctuates based on the member's income. Yet still, for those who are more financially comfortable, the share price is still far below that of a supermarket (and the veggies are always much fresher and better). This allows more of a possibilty for participation by lower income people/families. Additionally, while shares are generally paid for upfront for the entire season, practically all CSAs allow for a payment plan if spreading it out is better for a particular member.
7 - The week's vegetables are whatever is fresh to be picked that week. Usually, you go to the pick up and there is a pile of each of the week's vegetables and someone to tell you "this week's share include x # or tomatoes, one bunch of soybeans, x # of eggplants, and so on" you choose what you want and can trade more of one for less of others if there are veggies there you don't like. There will undoubtedly be things you are unfamiliar with but they are always fun to try.
8 - Most of the farmers and CSAs have a weekly newsletter that you get with your share. This includes a list of the week's vegetables. Often a note from the farmer with an update on whats coming up and how the weather is affecting our veggies. Other common things in the newsletter are recipes (particularly useful when you get a veg like celeriac and you'd like to try it but haven't a clue what it is or what to do with it) and tips on storing them so they last longer.
9 - There is also usually a small work requirement - type the newsletter one week, sit at distribution one week, or something similar.
Sorry, if I was a bit long-winded. I was a member of a CSA for a few years in my old neighborhood and absolutely loved it. I joined the Park Slope co-op and ended up giving it up because the time requirement is just too much for me. So, I am really excited for our PH CSA. Cons compared to the co-op - just produce. Pros compared to the co-op - much more seasonal variety in produce, fresher, cheaper. -
prospect place wrote: Pros compared to the co-op - much more seasonal variety in produce, fresher, cheaper.
really? could you elaborate on that "more seasonal variety" part please? -
you know, i should have proofed that post - sorry about that. more seasonal variety was probably not the best arrangement of the words to say what i meant. its variety is seasonally based bc everything is local. like you will not get tomatoes in the colder months. but then, in order to achieve variety, within what is in season you end up with more variety. for example, in colder months, when whats seasonal is largely root vegetables, you will end up trying every type of root vegetable that you have never even heard of. while at the co-op bc they do bring in non-local produce there ends up being overall variety but less variety within what is seasonal and local. (while co-op variety is certainly still good and much better than most supermarkets)
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My husband and I are going to try and make this meeting. We're pretty excited about a PH CSA. Thanks for the posting.
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Subject: Prospect Heights CSA
We're going too. -
My wife and went to the first meeting, but that one that was cancelled (we didn't get the memo
). We're excited but we were also concerned that there wouldn't be enough support for it to work. It'll be great to see a bunch of people there! It'll be even greater to get good, fresh veggies! Now we'll just have to figure out how to cook with stuff that we didn't know existed... I'd better dust off the cookbooks... -
even though i seem to be the csa-pusher on this board, i actually have not been at all involved yet in the one being started in our neighborhood. nybt, sorry no one told you the mtg had been cancelled. i think it was you who posted a few weeks ago that it was cancelled which was the first i even heard of a csa in our neighborhood so THANK YOU!! as far as the cookbook goes, before moving to the neighborhood, i was a member of a csa in the west village for a number of years. for that one, they have a great all veggie cookbook that each season they give free to the first however many people that sign up. maybe ours can do something similar. if not, i would be happy to make copies of it for anyone who wants.
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A couple of days ago, my wife wanted ME to post something about the CSA meeting- 'oh, someone already did.'
I'm more than happy to let someone else do the pushing!
The cookbook sounds like a great idea! -
My wife and I are definitely interested. My sister in Chicago belongs to a CSA and always raves about the produce quality.
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Subject: Small correction
The announcement gives the wrong address for the Clinton Hill CSA (CHCSA). The correct address is http://clintonhillcsa.org.
The Clinton Hill CSA will be in its fifth year of operation this season and we're very excited that Community Supported Agriculture is coming to Prospect Heights. Good luck! -
Just a reminder that the meeting is today! Hope to see some of you there!
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Subject: Announcement:  Prospect Heights CSA Info Meeting, Su
Announcement:  Prospect Heights CSA Info Meeting, Sunday, March 19, 2:30 pm at Beast
Community Supported Agriculture is a great way to get fresh, organic vegetables from a local, sustainable farm delivered right to your neighborhood for a very reasonable price.  Come and find out more about the new Prospect Heights CSA.
***PROSPECT HEIGHTS CSA INFORMATIONAL MEETING***
     When:  Sunday, March 19, 2:30 pm
     Where: Beast (at Vanderbilt Avenue & Bergen Street)
     Meet our farmer, Ted Blomgren of Windflower Farm, and find out how it all works. We hope to see you there!
How CSA works:
Members pay in advance for a ‘share’ of the farm's produce for an entire season, and then pick up a weekly delivery for 23 weeks, from June to November. Our CSA produce will be delivered to Namaskar (the health store) at 643 Vanderbilt Avenue (between Prospect Place & St. Marks Avenue).  Pick up will be every Thursday between 4:30 PM and 7:30 PM, starting on June 22.
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What you get:
Typically, each week’s share consists of 7-10 types of vegetables, enough for 2-3 people. Over the course of a season, members receive at least 40 different types of organic, fresh-picked, seasonal vegetables. You can also add a fruit share, egg share and/or flower share to the basic vegetable share. ÂÂÂ
Email prospectheightscsa (at) gmail (dot) com for detailed pricing information and an application form.
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Why CSA is so great:
Members enjoy tasty, healthy, organic & fresh (often picked the same day) produce throughout the growing season. Members also get the satisfaction of investing directly in the farmer who is growing their food; of supporting local agriculture in upstate New York; and of helping to sustain living wages for independent, family farmers.  At the same time, farmers receive a guaranteed market for their crops. In contrast to conventional supermarkets, CSA provides a strong connection between people who are growing food and people who are buying food. Finally, it’s also a great way to meet your neighbors in Prospect Heights!
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How to sign up:
Email prospectheightscsa (at) gmail (dot) com to receive an application form.  Or, come to the informational meeting on March 19 and sign up in person. Please sign up before April 25th for the 2006 growing season.
Want more information?
Contact the CSA at prospectheightscsa (at) gmail (dot) com or leave a message at (718) 576-2508 and someone will call you back. ÂÂÂ
Or, for general CSA information, visit Just Food on the web at http://www.justfood.org/csa/.
Just Food and the Prospect Heights CSA will be represented at the Brooklyn Botanical Garden this Saturday for the annual Making Brooklyn Bloom event, “Keeping It Fresh! City Gardeners Grow Food.† The event is this Saturday, March 11, 2006, from 10 AM to 4 PM.  More information is available at: http://www.bbg.org/vis2/2006/mbb/mbb_2006.pdf. -
Subject: Announcement: Prospect Heights CSA Info Meeting, Sun Mar 19
P.S. mods, would you consider making the above post an "announcement" on the message board? thank you! -
Subject: Re: Announcement: Prospect Heights CSA Info Meeting, Sun Ma
ph-bklyn wrote: P.S. mods, would you consider making the above post an "announcement" on the message board? thank you!
done and done.
well, i made it a sticky! take that! -
Subject: A note from the farmer about his veggies, fruits, eggs &
Here's a note from the farmer, Ted Blomgren, about his farm and what they expect to grow this coming year.
Looking forward to seeing you on Sunday at 2:30 at Beast.
WINDFLOWER FARM - THE 2006 SEASON
WELCOME
Windflower Farm is a small family farm in the Taconic Hill country between the Hudson River and the Vermont border. This marks our seventh season growing organic vegetables, and cut flowers for shareholders in NYC, and our third year raising free-range hens. Every Thursday for nearly half the year, we bring our produce to communities in NYC. We invite you to read this brochure to learn more about us and our approach to farming, and the kinds of shares we’re offering this year. If this brochure does not answer all of your questions, please feel free to contact us.
CSA & OUR COMMITMENT
Community supported agriculture (CSA) is a collaboration between farmers and the people who eat the food they grow. As Wendell Berry puts it, “Eating is an agricultural act.†CSA is a means by which people may establish a stronger relationship with the sources of their food. As farmers, we make a commitment to you to be good stewards of the land we grow your food on, and to grow a wide variety of high-quality vegetables in suitable quantities for you and the people with whom you share your table. And you, the folks who eat our food, make a commitment to us and the ecological practices we use by purchasing a share in our harvest, by sharing in some of the risks (and potential bounty) associated with growing crops in the Northeast, and by paying in advance of the season for your produce.
We believe that the principles of sustainable agriculture apply to every kind of farming, from the growing of the fresh vegetables and fruits that make their way to your dinner plates, to the production of the fresh cut flowers that adorn your tables. As organic growers, we use no pesticides or synthetic fertilizers of any kind. To enrich our soils, we use cover crops, crop rotations and compost. We are committed to careful land stewardship, ecological pest management, and a healthy environment for the people who work with us. In this way, we hope to leave our farm in good condition for future generations.
THE WINDFLOWER FARM STORY
Windflower Farm is a small organic farm nestled on 38 rolling acres in the Taconic Hills of southern Washington County, between Saratoga Springs, New York and Manchester, Vermont. We are about three hours drive north of NYC. It’s an area we find beautiful because of its lovely small farms and mix of open fields and wooded landscapes. We’ve been growing flowers and vegetables for more than ten years, and we’ve been on our own farm and distributing in New York City for seven years. It is a craft we truly enjoy.
Jan brings to the farm her experience as an illustrator, her training in botany, and her creativity as a flower designer, and Ted brings his training in horticulture, and his experience as an educator and vegetable farmer. Our boys bring to the farm their boundless energy, a sense of wonder, and their own farm enterpriseâ€â€Âa flock of free-range chickens that lay brown eggs. Two years ago, we added a small laying flock to the farm and enjoyed the antics of the little red hens that came to live with us every bit as much as their delicious brown eggs. The experience was so enjoyable, and the birds fit so well with our farm goals, that we have since increased the flock to over 400 hens.
THE VEGETABLE SHARE
Each year we grow 15 acres of organic vegetables for our shareholders in NYC. Our goal is to offer the widest possible assortment of vegetables. Each week, for about 23 weeks beginning in mid-June, we’ll have salad greens and cooking greens, herbs, an assortment of roots, bulbs and tubers, and seasonal vegetables, including tomatoes, squashes, cucumbers, peppers, melons, and eggplant. We’ll have peas in the spring, beans in the summer, and sweet corn every other week from mid-July to mid-September. And we’ll have a wide variety of unusual vegetables that may come in small quantities, but that truly enhance our eating pleasure. Our goal is to meet the seasonal vegetable needs of a family of two adults and two children or two enthusiastic vegetable eaters. Results from surveys of our shareholders tell us that our quantities have been good (“not too much, no too littleâ€ÂÂ) and that the share has been a good value.
SEASONAL HIGHLIGHTS
JUNE… Lettuces, succulent salad greens, ‘Mei Qing’ choi, ‘Oregon Giant’ snow peas, French breakfast radishes, white Japanese turnips, fresh scallions, potted Mediterranean herbs for your windowsill, and, with some luck, a harvest of spring broccoli. This is salad month, a fresh start to the harvest year. JULY… Spring spinach and greens give way to baby beets, bunched carrots, crisp cucumbers, and, by mid-month, squashes, green beans, and basil. By late July, we’ll have green onions, sweet corn, and, with good weather, ‘Juliet’ and ‘Mt. Spring’ tomatoes from our covered field houses. AUGUST… The dog days… sweet bell peppers, eggplants, zucchinis, red and green onions, and new potatoes. Dripping, sliced tomatoes, and mouth-watering melons. All these, along with lettuce mixes, carrots, more green beans, and herbs. SEPTEMBER… Cool nights invite the return of greens and broccoli, while warm days keep the summer vegetables happy. Garden salads and simple steamed vegetables adorn your table. OCTOBER… Frost ends the summer vegetables, but improves the flavor of those left behind. Crunchy carrots, perhaps some cauliflower, the makings for a pot of potato-leek soup, shell beans, steaming winter squash, and pie pumpkins. NOVEMBER… The season ends with cold-loving kale and other hardy greens, salad greens from the field houses, dry beans, carrots, leeks, celery root, potatoes, and cabbage. Hearty stews and roasted root vegetables help us prepare for the coming of winter.
CHOICES
During a part of every season, we use a free-choice distribution format. We know that individual preferences vary, and so we try to offer as many choices as possible. For example, we might bring three or four kinds of greens, and let you decide which to take home and which to leave. If you don’t like kale, leave it for someone who does, and take more lettuce or Swiss chard instead. We’ll also place roots, bulbs and tubers together, specify the weight you may take, and let you decide how many pounds of any one item to take. If you like, you may take an assortment of items (e.g., carrots, potatoes and onions), but you’re also free to take a larger quantity of just one item (e.g., just onions). Past shareholders have told us they are most happy when they’ve had the most freedom to choose, and so we’ll offer as many choices during the year as we can.
THE FRUIT SHARE
We grow very few fruits on our farm, nevertheless, we’ve offered a fruit share that has become quite popular. It consists of 20 weeks of fresh, local fruit, beginning in the early summer with strawberries, cherries, blueberries and raspberries, progressing in mid-summer to include peaches, plums, nectarines, and apricots, and concluding in the fall with assorted apples, pears, cider, and often a jar of something from the pantry. Please note that while all the fruit comes from very capable fruit farmers located near us, only the berries are grown organically. The other fruit is produced using IPM or low-spray practices. As organic fruit becomes more available, we’ll make sure to include it in the fruit share. In the spring, a share might consist of two quarts of strawberries, or a pint of blueberries plus a pound of sweet cherries. In mid-summer it might be two pounds of purple plums and two to three pounds of fresh peaches. In the fall it might contain a half-gallon of cider and three pounds of ‘Gala’ apples. We offer one size of fruit share and it sells for $120.
THE FLOWER SHARE
Our flower share consists of our own organically grown, fresh cut flowers. You’ll receive your first flowers in the middle of June, at about the time your first vegetables arrive. Some weeks you’ll receive arrangements made from a variety of flowers, other weeks you’ll have large bunches of a single variety to choose from. We grow more than thirty varieties of cut flowers. We select varieties for their beautiful colors, fragrance, and long-lasting qualities. Your first bouquets might have spice-scented stock, campanula, a beautiful deep blue, bell-shaped flower, and Bells of Ireland, with its wonderful light green foliage. Next, you’ll receive sweet peas, snapdragon spikes, godetia, sweet William, lavatera, larkspur and brightly colored Asiatic lilies. In the heat of the summer, you’re distributions will include China asters, rose-like lisianthus, sunflowers, rudbeckia, dahlia-flowered zinnias, and celosia. We think you’ll enjoy this year’s selections. Your flowers will arrive in a bucket of water, nestled in a plastic sleeve so that they travel well. You’ll need a vase with a 4-6†opening and tall enough for 18-30†stems. Our flowers are available over a 16-week season, and we offer full shares (flowers every week for 16 weeks) for $160 and half shares (flowers every other week for 8 weeks) for $80.
THE EGG SHARE
We have a laying flock of just over 400 birds. Some are the “sex-link†crosses so popular in the brown egg business, but most are the beautiful old standard breeds (Plymouth and Partridge Rocks, Rhode Island Reds, Buff Orpingtons, Light Brahmas and Silver-Laced Wyandottes) . We raise them from their very first day, and allow them to range freely on pasture, feeding on bugs, weeds, grass, vegetable scraps, and locally grown grains. They are free of antibiotics and hormones. And they lay delicious brown eggs (that are not fertile). This year, we will offer full shares (one dozen eggs/week for 22 weeks) for $65 and half shares (one half dozen eggs/week for 22 weeks) for $35.
THE WINTER SHARE
During the winter of 2005-2006, we piloted our first winter share. The share was comprised of a wide assortment of storage vegetables, fresh salad greens from our greenhouses, locally grown apples, freshly pressed cider, and fresh brown eggs. Shares were delivered once a month, on Saturday mornings, from December through March. We will build on that experience as we develop the 2006-2007 share. Expect to hear more about this share in the late summer.
WHAT’S NEW AT THE FARM?
Perhaps the biggest change on the farm is that Ted has become a full-time farmer this year. For years he’s been working part-time for Cornell University, where he’s been engaged in on-farm research and extension activities with Hudson Valley vegetable farmers. It’s been a wonderful experience, but he’s very pleased to be able to focus more of his energies on his farm and his family. A larger packing and storage barn and more greenhouses for early and late vegetables are also in the works for this year, with completion scheduled for mid-spring.
THANK YOU
Thanks for taking the time to learn more about Windflower Farm. We think you’ll be delighted with the quality of our farm-fresh products. Feel free to contact us if you’d like to know more. We hope to hear from you soon!
Sincerely,
Ted & Jan Blomgren
Windflower Farm
585 Meeting House Road, Valley Falls, NY 12185 -
While that post was certainly informative - and got my stomach growling - as I read it to my wife, her comment was, how does this compare to the greenmarket?
We've made a summer ritual of shopping there, every Saturday. My impression is that a share (or, for us, a half-share would be more likely) would complement the market but not entirely replace it. We purchase milk, fruit, Flying Pigs products, eggs, and occasionally cheeses or flowers from the market.
Can anyone make a comparison, or FTM an argument as to the value of a CSA versus the possibly higher prices but greater flexibility of the market?
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here's my take on how it compares with the green market (and don't get me wrong - i'm all over the green market - or was, not sure now that I've got my CSA chares!)
1) Price: CSA membership is on a sliding scale - depending on your income, shares cost as little as $15 a week, providing veggies for 2-3 people *all week* - try that at the green market. the PHCSA also has financial aid available, and takes food stamps/EBT.
2) Support Your Local Farmer: your share $ gets to the farmer in advance of the season, helping him or her plan ahead. Early $ often means financial sustainability, keeping small farms afloat.
3) Back to Nature: You can meet our farmer, Ted, visit his farm, and get regular updates on what he's growing when. You know where your food comes from, and better yet, you'll get all kinds of details on what going on at the farm.
and of course, there's the community aspect of it all - PHers getting together to bring a missing resource to our community...
oh. and, it's a lot of fun, all this grassroots stuff!
see you this weekend,
Becca
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I wasn't able to make it to the meeting at Beast this afternoon but am curious to know some details about how this works. Can someone who went offer a bit of debriefing? Specifically how someone would join, what the terms are, length of membership options, and so on. That would be super.
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check out www.prospectheightscsa.com for all the info, and to download a membership form! All the contact info is up as well, if you have any questions..
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