IDT Energy Scam...have you been hit up?
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Amethyst wrote: Yup, they were definitely in our building in Greenwood Heights this weekend.
Mine too, also in Greenwood heights. Luckily we have the security video phone, so they were unable to answer back once they were told to piss off. -
New flier posted on brownstoner along with their post http://www.brownstoner.com/brownstoner/archives/2008/11/escos_energy_sc.php on how not to get scammed.
Spread the word
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lostingreenwoodhts wrote: Just came through via one of the news groups I'm on
I live on the Lower East Side in Manhattan and I was duped into signing up but called ConEd after finding out and got an ESCO block.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bus/895219037.htmlEnergy Company/ Looking to hire ASAP (Midtown)
Who's gonna call?
Reply to: [email protected] [?]
Date: 2008-10-27, 11:33AM EDT
Midtown Promotions is looking for highly motivated individuals to work with Telecommunication and Energy companies such as Verizon, AT&T and IDT Energy.
Entry-Level management, sales and marketing positions are available.
We are looking to expand, so advancement and growth opportunities are definitely provided for all candidates.
No Experience Necessary
FULL TIME POSOTIONS ONLY!
Training is provided to all candidates
$400 to $600/wk
We are conducting interviews Monday through Thursday 12pm to 3pm walk ins are welcome or if you want to schedule an interview for a specific time please call 347-594-2981 and ask for Lissy. Our address is 21West 39th Street Suite 4B (located between 5th and 6th ave) please ask for Derek when you get there.
These are the scumbags that theconsumerist.com profiles in 2007
Gotta put these folks out of biz. :evil:
1) Does IDT ever go to the same neighborhoods/building more than once? I might need to get a gun if they ever come into my building again.
2) Is that job in the listing a 100% commission only job with no base pay? -
lostingreenwoodhts wrote: Just came through via one of the news groups I'm on
I live on the Lower East Side in Manhattan and I was duped into signing up but called ConEd after finding out and got an ESCO block.
http://newyork.craigslist.org/mnh/bus/895219037.htmlEnergy Company/ Looking to hire ASAP (Midtown)
Who's gonna call?
Reply to: [email protected] [?]
Date: 2008-10-27, 11:33AM EDT
Midtown Promotions is looking for highly motivated individuals to work with Telecommunication and Energy companies such as Verizon, AT&T and IDT Energy.
Entry-Level management, sales and marketing positions are available.
We are looking to expand, so advancement and growth opportunities are definitely provided for all candidates.
No Experience Necessary
FULL TIME POSOTIONS ONLY!
Training is provided to all candidates
$400 to $600/wk
We are conducting interviews Monday through Thursday 12pm to 3pm walk ins are welcome or if you want to schedule an interview for a specific time please call 347-594-2981 and ask for Lissy. Our address is 21West 39th Street Suite 4B (located between 5th and 6th ave) please ask for Derek when you get there.
These are the scumbags that theconsumerist.com profiles in 2007
Gotta put these folks out of biz. :evil:
1) Does IDT ever go to the same neighborhoods/building more than once? I might need to get a gun if they ever come into my building again.
2) Is that job in the listing a 100% commission only job with no base pay? -
1) YES...get a bat, no guns!
2) Yes, and thus they hire from the lower end of the food chain...and now age group, hiring high school students! -
1) YES...get a bat, no guns!
2) Yes, and thus they hire from the lower end of the food chain...and now age group, hiring high school students! -
lostingreenwoodhts wrote: 1) YES...get a bat, no guns!
Well, I do have a shillelegh. But seriously, the first time the show up, they say they are from ConEd, but the next time, it might be for a home robbery and in that situation, you have to defend yourself anyway you can. Great thread btw.
2) Yes, and thus they hire from the lower end of the food chain...and now age group, hiring high school students! -
lostingreenwoodhts wrote: 1) YES...get a bat, no guns!
Well, I do have a shillelegh. But seriously, the first time the show up, they say they are from ConEd, but the next time, it might be for a home robbery and in that situation, you have to defend yourself anyway you can. Great thread btw.
2) Yes, and thus they hire from the lower end of the food chain...and now age group, hiring high school students! -
I wish it wasn't such a "great thread" but SO MANY PEOPLE have been scammed by these guys...
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I wish it wasn't such a "great thread" but SO MANY PEOPLE have been scammed by these guys...
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So an IDT guy just came to my door and I foolishly signed their paper before doing any reading on it. I got a bad feeling about it and made them tear up everything I signed, but I'm still a little worried, and based on everything I've read about them now, I think I'm justified in my worry. They still ahve the torn up paper and could probably still put it together to get what they need. Is there any thing I can pre-emptively do to prevent them from making whatever changes they want to make?
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GriffyMurphy wrote: So an IDT guy just came to my door and I foolishly signed their paper before doing any reading on it. I got a bad feeling about it and made them tear up everything I signed, but I'm still a little worried, and based on everything I've read about them now, I think I'm justified in my worry. They still ahve the torn up paper and could probably still put it together to get what they need. Is there any thing I can pre-emptively do to prevent them from making whatever changes they want to make?
Call Con Ed ASAP and as for an "ESCOS freeze" on your account. Then they cannot switch you w/o your permission.
Very important to do! Sorry to hear you got (or almost got) scammed. -
They're hitting 4th Ave. in Sunset Park. Just got the "buzz." Thankfully, I don't buzz anyone I'm not expecting in and I went downstairs. At first, I thought he was a Fedex guy - looked like envelopes in his hand. Totally talked over me with the "happy holidays! I'm Reggie from...mumble mumble" and tried to shake my hand. When I said "From what?" I still couldn't understand what he said so I said "Go away, you're not welcome in the building." He started laughing like I was joking or something. I shut the door and walked away.
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Good response. Hope you wished him a Merry Effin' Xmas...or Happy Mithras or the like.
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Just received this from one of the list servs I am not. A MUST READ if you have been scammed by IDT:
I was contacted for the second time by an anonymous tipster who recommended yet another venue to complain against IDT Energy's (IDT Corporation) and Midtown Promotions' "ESCOS Slamming" (scamming) techniques perpetrated on our communities and others through out Brooklyn, Queens and the City. While complaints to the New York State Public Service Commission and the Better Business Bureau of NJ and NY, you can also submit anonymous complaints against IDT to their auditor, Grant Thorton LLP ( http://www.grantthornton.com/ ) via an ethics complaint company EthicsPoint.
Anyone gonna file a complaint?
Thanks to the hundreds of you who have responded (with horror stories, unfortunately) to date.
We have filed two complaints as of today:
1. Falsification of contracts, reports or records (i.e. if you were ESCOS Slammed)
2. Misconduct or inappropriate behavior (i.e. "Hi, I work for Con Ed/Nat Grid and I can save you $$" or aggressive sales tactics)
I encourage EVERYONE who has written/called us or posted complaints on browstoner, gowanuslounge or brooklynian or to CB7 to take the 10 mins to file one or two complaints.
Here's how you go about filing an on-line complaint (you can do it by phone as well at 866-739-4134):
1. Visit https://secure.ethicspoint.com/domain/en/report_custom.asp?clientid=15191 or via Grant Thorton LLP's website, under the "ethics" link at the bottom of every page.
2. Click on the "Make a Report" button (this will take you to the Ethicspoint.com portal)
3. You will see options on how to report a single or multiple ethics transgressions against IDT Energy (IDT Corporation) and their third-party sales team at Midtown promotions (Chris Polke, CEO) as it states "You are currently in the confidential and secure reporting structure of EthicsPoint. Below are the choices available to you. Please click on the arrow to select the type of report you would like to make."
4. Depending on whether you were "ESCOS slammed" (ie. signed up for service change to IDT Energy with out your permission) or scammed by a sales rep into thinking the change "will save you money" or if they represented themselves as "working for Con Ed or National Grid."
5. As per above, select either (or both): Falsification of contracts, reports or records and/or Misconduct or inappropriate behavior
It is important to fill out as much info as you may have, which can be done anonymously, but make sure to reference you are "filing a complaint against IDT Energy (IDT Corporation) and their 3rd-party sales team Midtown Promotions to the independent auditor Grant Thorton LLP."
It's that easy (really)! Took me longer to read my e-mail than to file the complaint
Grant Thorton LLP MUST investigate all ethics charges and report them back to their board and subsequently to the SEC and other agencies due to IDT Energy's conduct and if it deemed unethical or illegal. Think about Enron and Arthur Anderson...ring a bell?
Ultimately it's all up to you. I'm just passing along the info. This and help from our local electeds should help us turn the tide against this type of improper sales tactics!
NOTE: for the press and the blogs, if you repost this (please do) leave my name of of it (or contact me if you need to). For our fellow community groups and list serves: please pass this info along to anyone who may have been slammed or scammed.
Perhaps we'll get a New Year's treat and see IDT Energy (IDT Corporation) and Midtown promotions get what's coming to them...proper legal action ad accountability for, in my POV, their illegal and unethical sales techniques.
Happy 2009 in advance to all! -
fyi...they were out in sunset park tonight. they rang my aunt's bell and entered the apartment building where they live. 38th st and 5th ave area. we warned her of the scam and she notified the other neighbors.
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Completely disappointing article in the NY Post yesterday that was fwd to me:
SCAMMERS' POWER STING
February 8, 2009
By ANGELA MONTEFINISE
Big Apple homeowners are getting zapped by a shocking door-to-door scam.
In an attempt to grab Con Ed customers, energy service companies are ringing bells in Brooklyn and Queens offering drastically cheaper rates for delivering electricity.
The only problem is the salespeople often lie, forge and misrepresent themselves to do it, according to victims. "It's very disturbing," said City Councilman Bill de Blasio (D-Brooklyn), whose office is fielding persistent complaints and has created a hot line for victims.
The scam is simple: Salesmen knock on the door and ask for the homeowner's Con Ed bill. Sometimes the salesmen identify themselves properly, but often they imply or say they're from Con Ed.
After looking at the bill and pointing out high charges, they quote a false rate to entice the homeowner to switch or take down personal information to facilitate an unauthorized switch. -
Wow, I'm only now realizing that I fell for this.
I'm going to call IDT and cancel now, and then call ConEd. -
Energy scam!
http://www.brooklynpaper.com/stories/32/15/32_15_bm_90_blot.html
Two thugs pretending to work for an energy company snatched a laptop and $800 from a Lorimer Street woman’s apartment on April 7.
The con-men knocked on her door at around 1:15 pm and convinced her they were official by showing off their fake identification badges.
“We work for the energy company,” said one of the thugs. “We can lower your bill.”
While the 28-year-old victim searched her home for her energy bill, the crooks snatched the cash and the computer from the top of her dresser and fled from the apartment, which is between Ten Eyck and Maujer streets. -
GC72 wrote: They were working my building the other day when I came home from work. Really loud and obnoxious. The peep hole on my front door is one of those old-fashioned kind, basically a hole in the door with a little cover and you can see right into the living room if you were to push the cover back a look through, and when I got home I could tell that someone had been doing that because the cover wasn't in its latch even though it was closed. Probably them. Kind of missed me off. If I were home, someone would've gotten a eye full of pepper spray or a broken finger. But at least I didn't have to deal with them directly. And thanks to this board I knew exactly who they were and what they were up to.
You always bring your pepper spray? It's a good self defense. I always bring mine. -
A group of people referring to themselves as GGC Consulting, is presently engaging in the the same tactics in western Crown Heights.The names may change....
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hey, I signed up with IDT energy a 6 months ago and I'm really satisfied with what they offering. the IDT rep who came to my door was talking professionally and he explained the program very well. they offer me a fix rate 3 cent kw/h which is good, because it helps me controlling my energy usage. I don't know why everyone here pissed off but for me I been using IDT as a supplier and everything is good and my bill still the same.
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Nidal,It's hardly worth shilling for IDT at this late date. Their bad reputation is well established and few people are foolish enough to fall for their scam.
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