Co-op Board Inerview
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Subject: Re: Co-op Board Inerview
KCYCLUB1477 wrote: Anone have expereince with meeting the board of a co-op as a prospective buyer? Im a little worried as I have absolutely no idea what to expect in terms of questions and the like.
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Subject: Re: Co-op Board Inerview
BKChickie wrote: [quote=KCYCLUB1477]Anone have expereince with meeting the board of a co-op as a prospective buyer? Im a little worried as I have absolutely no idea what to expect in terms of questions and the like.
You posted this on the PH board, too.
Clearly NOT Co-op material!
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Depending on what documentation you may already have provided to them, they will want assurances that your job is relatively secure, and that you earn enough so that you will be able to pay the maintenance.
They will probably also ask some "lifestyle" questions, to make sure that you will be a compatible neighbor: e.g. no loud parties for 100 friends and total strangers, no large animals in the house, etc. etc. -
they will see if you are suitable to live in the same place they do.
So basically if you dont match their criteria, they will deny you. -
Thanks everyone I just posted it on both boards to make sure more people saw it and could help me out.
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it's VERY rare to be denied entry into a co-op unless you are madonna and your co-op doesn't want the paparazzi hanging around 24/7.
they'll ask you if you cook at home, what kind of music you listen to, how often/loud, etc.
it's really no big deal. it's basically a formality if your finances are in order. -
I dont know if they ran a credit check on me. The thing is is that Im not working righ nowt and the work I do is on a fluctuating basis so it has its good times and downtimes. So do I go in there and tell them I havent been working for the past several months or do I lie and say that I am working> I am just not sure how much they know and I dont want to be made to look like a fool in front of the 10 people who interview me? Long story short even with my unemployed status I do have the money for the buy in price and I definitely can afford the maintenance fee. This is also not the typical co-op as there is no mortgage, Just a buy in fee and a maintenance fee paid monthly.
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If you are certain you can pay the maintenance fee indefinitely without working, you should explain to them why and how you can be so sure. If you are not certain, you should not be buying the apartment at all. Foreclosures/evictions are not fun for anyone involved.
Lying to them is unlikely to work. They've seen and heard it all before. -
disclosure: I've never been to a coop interview. However, I would assume this is like asking what an job interview will ask you. Depends greatly upon the people involved.
Basically, however, they want to ensure two things:
MOST IMPORTANT: you can pay and they will not have financial problems because you default. If you default it has financial consequences for them.
Second: you will not cause problems in the coop. (your quiet, responsible, friendly).
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KCYCLUB1477 wrote: I dont know if they ran a credit check on me. The thing is is that Im not working righ nowt and the work I do is on a fluctuating basis so it has its good times and downtimes. So do I go in there and tell them I havent been working for the past several months or do I lie and say that I am working> I am just not sure how much they know and I dont want to be made to look like a fool in front of the 10 people who interview me? Long story short even with my unemployed status I do have the money for the buy in price and I definitely can afford the maintenance fee. This is also not the typical co-op as there is no mortgage, Just a buy in fee and a maintenance fee paid monthly.
can you explain this "buy-in" fee? you're buying an apartment but didn't have to put down any $$? or get a mortgage? -
and you don't think they ran a credit check?
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Yes I believe they must have done a credit check otherwise why call me. Dont know how to explain it anymore then I have. any specific question?
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are you buying a coop?
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yes but not in the traditional sense. There is no mortgage just a maintenance fee. The building is in the early stages of becoming a co op so there is a small window of opportunity to buy into it for $10000.
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have you looked over the paperwork well? had a lawyer look over the paperwork? i don't mean to be a bitch, but something about this sounds really, really shady
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brooklynpotter wrote: have you looked over the paperwork well? had a lawyer look over the paperwork? i don't mean to be a bitch, but something about this sounds really, really shady
yes. yes it does. if you have not had a lawyer look over this PLEASE DO! -
Did you hear about this co-op from a mysterious Nigerian benefactor?
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Once again my aunt has an apartment in the building and is on the board of the co-op that will be interviewing me so it is definitely legit. As for the paperwork besides the applicaton you are right I have not seen anything which Im assuming they will give to me when they decide on who they want to choose. No Ihave not given any money except for 30 dollar applocation fee.
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as an experienced coop owner and former coop president, i urge you to see an attorney before you even meet with the board so you'll know what questions to ask.
bob dubno is a real estate attorney and his office is on president street and 7th ave. -
brooklynpotter wrote: as an experienced coop owner and former coop president, i urge you to see an attorney before you even meet with the board so you'll know what questions to ask.
bob dubno is a real estate attorney and his office is on president street and 7th ave.
Well since you have experience and both ends can you give me some ideas of what they will ask and what I should ask? -
they will go over all of your financials and question any tiny thing. this includes credit report, past tax returns, etc., which i'm sure you've already given them.
they will ask you about your work, whether or not you have any lined up, what you would do if you didn't get work for xx months. (if you were seeking approval in our coop, for example, and we were concerned about your uneven work history, we might ask you for a year's worth of maintenance payments upfront.)
they will ask you about your life, whether you have pets, parties, musical instruments. they may or may not call your references. they will ask you what you like about the building, why you want to move there, whether you want to do any renovations.
ask them what the building is like, whether it's quiet, do people get along, what will you be responsible for. will you need to serve on the board at any time, for example? can you bring your pet boa constrictor? stuff like that. and ask if your maintenance payments will go up and why. and ask them why they are giving you a coop for 10k.
in the meantime, you really should speak with an attorney. you should never buy *any* real estate without one. regardless of the fact that your aunt is on the board it sounds shady at best. -
I'm confused - how can your aunt be on the board? If it's not a coop yet, there is no board. So who exactly is interviewing you and what are their roles in the building, now and in the future?
The interview should come after they've reviewed your financials AND after you've looked over their paperwork. Taking an existing (rental?) building and converting to cooperative is long, involved and complicated and there should be reams of paperwork already about the terms of the conversion, how shares are allocated, sponsor's role (is there a sponsor?), finances, rules, management, etc. etc.
The interview is the least of your problems; the lack of information is a much bigger one. I'll echo the advice to get an attorney NOW to look over any paperwork. Don't put any money down or in an escrow account until the lawyer has looked things over and offered his/her advice. Your aunt's living there doesn't make this scenario any more legitimate than if you didn't know anyone in the building.
At this stage, I'd worry much more about whether you want to accept them than if they 'want' you. -
BP made some good points, I am on the board of my small co op and those are the things we would ask. We would also ask for letters of recommendation from personal and business acquaintances and also from your previous landlord and neighbors (to see what sort of neighbor you are).
But, honestly, if you didn't have a job now, our board would not approve you. I would think a lot of boards would feel that way. -
KCYCLUB1477, this just doesn't sound like a co-op. $10,000 down, and a maintenance fee with no mortgage? Is this a low-income housing project, where if you ever move you're required to sell it back to the co-op for the same price you bought it at? Otherwise, it just doesn't add up. Co-ops don't give away apartments for free. I can't think of any neighborhood in the city where an apartment is only worth $10k.
If this is a special program, they may have different requirements and be asking you different things, because for $10k a unit it doesn't sound like they're looking seriously at the financial health of the co-op. -
KCYCLUB1477, I understand that you seem excited about this possibility. I don't blame you: my family is all in real estate and I'm a bit obsessed myself. And this sounds very very strange. In fact, I've never heard about anything like this, ever.
Now I am not saying, per say, this is not legitimate. However, ESPECIALLY since your aunt is on the board, it is more important for you to ensure your rights are being protected. That is a lawyers job. Among other things, to ensure that your contracts are all in order and all fees are being signed, etc.
The worst that can happen is you are out a thousand bucks for a lawyer to says go for it. Likely, they will find a few things here and there in the contract and help you out. Possibly: the lawyer will let you know that this is not, by any ways, purchasing a house, but rather a "rent-to-own" situation where you are getting screwed with putting $10k down.
None of us know you. In fact, we don't really care either way as we have nothing invested here. But we are all outside this situation and can tell you there are some serious red flags.
Please use your common sense here. -
I agree with others, this sounds hinky, as a coop owner, purchaser, current coop board member and former property manager
You need legal representation. I'm not even sure you can buy legally in New York without it.
When you say no mortgage do yo mean you are paying cash or the the coop has no exitsing underlying mortgage? Is this a Mitchel-Lama? Is the building on a land lease? -
BrooklynJack wrote: When you say no mortgage do yo mean you are paying cash or the the coop has no exitsing underlying mortgage?
Unless I misunderstood, I think s/he was saying there was no payment other than the down payment of $10k and the maintenance fee, so no mortgage necessary because no further money would be owed.
TANSTAAFL
If it sounds too good to be true, it probably is. -
you cannot buy a coop for $10k.
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This sounds like something my SIL and her hubby did many many years ago. they used to say that when they were first married they owned a coop, yet, it was nothing like what we all consider a coop. they put money down on an apartment in a complex in Queens, and then paid 'maintenance" which was like rent (they also never had a mortgage). When they decided to move out, the complex "bought" the apartment back from them by basically returning the fee they had put down years before with a slight amount of interest. They were not allowed to sell the apartment themselves since they technically didn't own it the way we own our coops.
To me, this was not a coop, but they always said that is what it was called. Now, this was out in Queens about 35 years ago or so, but it sounds like the same sort of proposition.
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