Jury Duty!!!! To protect and .......
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I just got my summons and let me say I am not too happy about it. Sorry, but I am an hourly worker, not a salary worker at this time of the recession. Thus, I miss a whole days work which I really can't afford to at this moment. I will show up, but I will do evertything not to get picked and even if I do get picked I will explain that I will not be back for the previously mentioned reasons as I can not survive on the measly $30 or so they supposedly pay you. If they want to fine me or arrest me, so be it. I'll worry about that if and when that happens.
Jury duty should only be for those earning salary, students, unemployed or retired, IMO. -
MeredithB wrote:
Then only those earning salary, students, unemployed or retired would get a "jury of their peers". :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl:
Jury duty should only be for those earning salary, students, unemployed or retired, IMO.
Don't worry, I have never know anybody who really could not be there have to stay for more than a day. -
Hey, I'm a pot smoking, wine drinking malcontent. I wouldn't get a jury of my peers either.
Good to know about the money thing. -
Most Boooklynians are pot smoking, wine drinking malcontents. We are your peers
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MeredithB wrote: Hey, I'm a pot smoking, wine drinking malcontent. I wouldn't get a jury of my peers either.
can we even say that online
Good to know about the money thing.
, isn't it still illegal to admit any forms of it ? -
armchair_warrior wrote: [quote=MeredithB]Hey, I'm a pot smoking, wine drinking malcontent. I wouldn't get a jury of my peers either.
can we even say that online
Good to know about the money thing., isn't it still illegal to admit any forms of it ?
I've been tempted to start a thread on this board asking where the best place to buy pot is. Not that I would ever want to do such a thing being that it is illegal and all, but it would be funny to see the reaction. Alas - I've been too much of a wimp to do it. -
ringrunner wrote: [quote=MeredithB]
Then only those earning salary, students, unemployed or retired would get a "jury of their peers". :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl: :pr: :pl:
Jury duty should only be for those earning salary, students, unemployed or retired, IMO.
Don't worry, I have never know anybody who really could not be there have to stay for more than a day.
that's not true, they keep a lot of people nowadays. My husband is not a salaried employee, he is an independent contractor who makes 100% commission. If he does not work, he does not make money. They didn't care, they kept him anyway. -
Jamzer wrote: I've been tempted to start a thread on this board asking where the best place to buy pot is.
a friend. -
Jamzer wrote: [quote=armchair_warrior][quote=MeredithB]Hey, I'm a pot smoking, wine drinking malcontent. I wouldn't get a jury of my peers either.
can we even say that online
Good to know about the money thing., isn't it still illegal to admit any forms of it ?
I've been tempted to start a thread on this board asking where the best place to buy pot is. Not that I would ever want to do such a thing being that it is illegal and all, but it would be funny to see the reaction. Alas - I've been too much of a wimp to do it.
Jamzer, i am shocked at you!! Shocked i say!! -
"that's not true, they keep a lot of people nowadays ..."
That's true in state court, at least. The NYS Chief Judge, Judith Kaye (who just retired) made lots of changes over the years -- people do end up serving, and it's almost impossible to get out of jury duty.
[In the old days, escape was relatively easy -- just claim business necessity, or have the boss claim as much. But today, you can't avoid it even if you're a business owner, MD, or lawyer. And unlikely as it sounds, lawyers HAVE ended up on juries ... though Bill Clinton and Judge Kaye were rejected.]
Kaye also spiffed up the jury waiting rooms, installed the video screens & "all about juries" video, computer access, etcetera.
I've been called for J. duty regularly, and it's a WHOLE lot better than it used to be. In the old days, it was like being trapped in a crummy pit with oblivious/rude keepers, plus fellow juror candidates who who too often were furious (since the exemptions were so unfair), or had chronic life "issues" and viewed it only as a $ opportunity. -
I just got a notice, and postponed until May.
I've gone twice before and get rejected regularly. Once they find out I have a degree in criminal justice one side's attorney or the other always throws me off. That said, I don't try to lie or make up stories. I don't mind the voir dire or the actual trial part, it's the waiting that makes me nuts -
Have you ever worked in a job to which that degree was relevant?
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booklaw wrote: Have you ever worked in a job to which that degree was relevant?
eh....I used to have a lot of law firms as clients (I work in tech). At times it's handy. Also gave me some good fundamentals as far as contracts....I've also had to engage with our legal teams for things like NDAs, and making sure we comply with things like SLAs, etc. -
Sounds like you would need a graduate degree in acronyms!
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booklaw wrote: Sounds like you would need a graduate degree in acronyms!
That would be an MBA, right? -
molly9094 wrote: [quote=ringrunner][quote=ringrunner]
Zoom, I got my Jury Duty Notice. March 30
I think my kids will give them to me anyway :-' :-'
what a great thing for you, and you'll have such a good time in so many ways. Write about it all when it's said and done please.
I start today and will post my adventure on my blog
www.ChickenUnderwear.com -
^I will keep my ears open for that phone ringing around 2:30 or so
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I'll be there tomorrow, pissed off as hell that I'm losing a day's work for my civil duty. Fuck my civil duty. I'll trade not ever having to go to jury duty for my right to vote anyday of the week.
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It was not so bad today. If you don't get on a jury in one day you are done. When I was called into the court room the judge first described the case and asked if anybody thought they could not be there.
Everybody was treated like an individual and everybody who said they had any kind of problem was sent home.
They did not need me. -
They didn't pick you?
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Naw. They called about 50 people up to a court room (18th floor, with a killer view of the Manhattan Bridge and all the way up the East River). Then they voir dired 20 of us at random. Then lunch, Then another 20 got voir dired. They never got to me
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Just did jury duty Monday, my first in NYC. Not bad, except the waiting.
I would have been ok with a one or two day trial. But I was called for a one-week criminal trial (which from the list of witnesses sounded like it could go longer).
The judge, who was actually rather entertaining, dismissed full-time students right away, and when I said I was a freelancer with appointments this week, he said "You don't work, you don't get paid?" and when I said yes, he dismissed me.
Went back to the jury pool and when I wasn't called again by the end of the day, I was dismissed. And these days it's eight years before they can call you again. -
...just one day now? I thought you had to pull two tours of jury pool duty before being released. (at least that's what I went through a few years back)
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eh... a jury will never have my "Peers"...
just think, this is 12 people that were too stupid to get out of jury duty... or have nothing better to do
that said, i rescheduled my jury duty until December... right around xmas, everyone wants to get trials out of the way more quickly, and you're much more likely to be dismissed -
You could look at it a little differently: 12 people that take their civic duty seriously, who aren't so arrogant as to believe they're too good or too smart to serve.
You could also hope and pray that you never find yourself sitting in the defendant's dock, wrongly accused of a crime, and depending on 12 stupid and lazy jurors to free you, because all of the smart, hard-working folks considered themselves too good to serve. -
illig wrote: eh... a jury will never have my "Peers"...
So which one are you?
just think, this is 12 people that were too stupid to get out of jury duty... or have nothing better to do
that said, i rescheduled my jury duty until December... -
jury duty is fine.. GRAND jury duty is GREAT. unless they've changed the rules, you're in-there for a month.. it was an opportunity to form friendships that i've maintained thru the years.. we even had a party on a friday, after our work was done.. the court personnel said they'd never seen anything like it. it was great.
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ringrunner wrote: Naw. They called about 50 people up to a court room (18th floor, with a killer view of the Manhattan Bridge and all the way up the East River). Then they voir dired 20 of us at random. Then lunch, Then another 20 got voir dired. They never got to me
Same thing for me except 17th floor and they made me come back a second day at 10AM. Finally got ito the courtroom at 11AM. Got voir dired, told the judge I could never convict the defendant on cop testimony alone. We were done at 12:30, they had their jury, they needed no one else, so instead of sending us home, they sent us for lunch, come back at 2PM. Great. Get back at 2PM, still nothing, wait until 3:30PM still nothing so I left. They must be incompetent or inconsiderate, I'm not surer which.
If I have to give up my vote never to do this again so be it. -
ringrunner wrote: Naw. They called about 50 people up to a court room (18th floor, with a killer view of the Manhattan Bridge and all the way up the East River). Then they voir dired 20 of us at random. Then lunch, Then another 20 got voir dired. They never got to me
Wait ringrunner... were you there on Wednesday?
Was it a criminal case invovling two counts of carrying a concealed weapon.
I was there Wednesday, got called up for that case but was excused. -
MeredithB wrote: [quote=ringrunner]Naw. They called about 50 people up to a court room (18th floor, with a killer view of the Manhattan Bridge and all the way up the East River). Then they voir dired 20 of us at random. Then lunch, Then another 20 got voir dired. They never got to me
Same thing for me except 17th floor and they made me come back a second day at 10AM. Finally got ito the courtroom at 11AM. Got voir dired, told the judge I could never convict the defendant on cop testimony alone. We were done at 12:30, they had their jury, they needed no one else, so instead of sending us home, they sent us for lunch, come back at 2PM. Great. Get back at 2PM, still nothing, wait until 3:30PM still nothing so I left. They must be incompetent or inconsiderate, I'm not surer which.
If I have to give up my vote never to do this again so be it.
If you would have waited another half hour to 4 you would have gotten a certificate stating you were exempt for the next 8 years.
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