prospect heights (Franklin and st johns)

Subject: Re: prospect heights

stah00 wrote: Hey planning to move to prospect heights near Franklin and st johns hearing mixed things whats the deal. Safe area? Ok to walk around at night. Thanks

That's Crown Heights, not Prospect Heights. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just a different neighborhood. I moved this thread to the CH board, where you can probably find more people who can give you information about the neighborhood.

you should walk around at night before you move there.

...if the whether is warm, this Saturday night, around 10 PM should give you a good impression.

Some people are comfortable with the environment, and some aren't.

...If you reach the conclusion its not for you, some people on this board will leap to conclusions about whether you are from Fairfax VA, and others won't.

Welcome!

The area and these cross streets are fine. My location in fact. Other then the drug dealers on the corner (see my earlier post) who aren't threatening just loud. The great Franklin Park is here and things seem a changing for the better all the time. Or am I just telling this to myself??

stah00 wrote: is it like walking around on on say Montique or Henry in Brooklyn Heights

It is very, very different than Montique and henry.

Welcome to Prospect Heights! You'll love the neighborhood - friendly people, lots of cool bars and restaurants, overall a nice place to live.

Jack Krohn wrote: Welcome to Prospect Heights! You'll love the neighborhood - friendly people, lots of cool bars and restaurants, overall a nice place to live.

NOT Prospect Heights, Jack.

Also, NOT anything like Brooklyn Heights.

I agree with theburgerking there - from bedford to washington should have a different name.

that said - crown heights here (i lived at the corner you speak of for a few years and now live 2 blocks away) is WAY different than over near utica where i work. here, you're walking distance to park slope and prospect heights with a lot to do and see. there you're near brownsville and a whole lot of nothing. come visit on a warm weekend evening and see how you feel.

going to be honest - when i lived alone in brooklyn, i kinda liked all them being out on the streets - i felt a lot safer walking up franklin with lots of people around just hanging out than walking down the empty side streets. they generally are loud but i've only seen them be violent or rude once.

stah00 wrote: Makes sense I guess. would be walking from subway around 11pm should i worry? getting off subway safe? can't beat the rent for NY. Thats the attraction.

Do the commute before you sign the lease and see how you feel.

Subject: Re: prospect heights

Carnivore wrote: [quote=stah00]Hey planning to move to prospect heights near Franklin and st johns hearing mixed things whats the deal. Safe area? Ok to walk around at night. Thanks

That's Crown Heights, not Prospect Heights. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just a different neighborhood. I moved this thread to the CH board, where you can probably find more people who can give you information about the neighborhood.

As a resident of the above area, and a skeptic of the Crown Heights designation (and also weary of the snarky neighborhood chauvinism), I have decided to solicit ideas and declare a new name for the area that is bounded by Washington to Franklin and Atlantic to Eastern Parkway.

My thought (i.e., suggestion) is Sterling Hill. I declare it so.

Any other ideas?

In any event, when the time comes to sell our place, I'm going to market it as Prospect Heights. But, years later, when people ask where I bought my first home, I'm saying Crown Heights. More street cred that way. Word up beoytches!

Subject: Re: prospect heights

sillybilly wrote: [quote=Carnivore][quote=stah00]Hey planning to move to prospect heights near Franklin and st johns hearing mixed things whats the deal. Safe area? Ok to walk around at night. Thanks

That's Crown Heights, not Prospect Heights. Not that there's anything wrong with that. It's just a different neighborhood. I moved this thread to the CH board, where you can probably find more people who can give you information about the neighborhood.

As a resident of the above area, and a skeptic of the Crown Heights designation (and also weary of the snarky neighborhood chauvinism), I have decided to solicit ideas and declare a new name for the area that is bounded by Washington to Franklin and Atlantic to Eastern Parkway.

My thought (i.e., suggestion) is Sterling Hill. I declare it so.

Any other ideas?

In any event, when the time comes to sell our place, I'm going to market it as Prospect Heights. But, years later, when people ask where I bought my first home, I'm saying Crown Heights. More street cred that way. Word up beoytches!


My suggestion above was "BCAP" between Crown and Prospect.

As I said, welcome to Prospect Heights!

So just because it used to be called crown heights, it still should be? i thought that originally, crown heights ended at Classon, not Washington.

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For most of its history, the area was known as Crow Hill. It was a succession of hills running east and west from Utica Avenue to Classon Avenue, and south to Empire Boulevard and New York Avenue.

The name was changed when Crown Street was cut through in 1916.


Crown Heights is now bounded by Washington Avenue (to the west), Atlantic Avenue (to the north), Ralph Avenue (to the east) and Empire Boulevard (to the south).
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Places change and populations change. Every neighborhood in Brooklyn USED to be called something else. Do people in Forte Green still call their neighborhood Washington Park? No - because things change. I don't think the argument of "but that's what it was always called" is a good one.

I think that the area of Bedford (east) to Washington (west) to Eastern Parkway (south) to Atlantic (north) should be named a different neighborhood then (such as Crow Hill) if people can't get over it and allow it to be part of Prospect Heights.

Lo Kee wrote: 1. I've hear self desribed "old timers" say that the area west of Franlin was known "back in the day" as Propect Heights. I think that was even on this board, might be able to turn it up with a search.

2. No matter which side of the argument you are on, everyone should concede that it is open to interpretation. It's a fuzzy line, not a bright line. ANy description of the area as one or the other should include an asterisk.

That having been said, I would cerftainly market any property I owned in that grey zone as "prospect heights". If I was buying I would firmly remind the seller that it was in Crown Heights.

Some people may say that's intellectually dishonest. I call it "taking a position."

I call it "acting in your own best interest without regard for the facts." Understandable perhaps, but kind of like letting the owners of the coal plant define acceptable emissions standards. Call it whatever you want to try to trick an unwitting buyer, but don't pretend that has any bearing on the reality.