Danny's Pig Thread

Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote: Hhmm...people DO learn when I insult them. Cool.

Wait, that was an insult?

Wait, I wasn't supposed to feel hungry as a result of seeing all of the food with its legs still on?

I'm makin' bacon right now!

Ha! My dog would be the one eaten by baby goats (or possibly Danny Hellman). He's such a wuss.

OMG LOGIC!

people = animals. yes.

animals ≠ people

WHY IS THIS HARD?

not saying there aren't plenty of reasons not to eat animals, but this is getting silly.

Pitu, that's the dog for me! As long as he saves me some of that goat.

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=Mamacita]

What gets me is people that are all self righteous on a message board but are all talk and no activism. Go out there and physically do something. Fight those companies.

No, you have it backwards. The source of the problem is the demand, not the suppliers. Drug cartels exist because people want drugs. Hormel, Tyson, McDonalds, et al exist because foolish ghouls drool over the flesh of murdered animals.

Speaking of supply and demand, I'm not buying this argument. All kinds of products exist to supply demands that may or may not have existed before the existance of said product (smurfs, cabbage patch dolls,hats with fake beards.) There is this thing called advertising. (Sometimes the animals that people resemble are sheep.)

Nor do I think that companies are absolved of responsibility for the ways they conduct business simply because they are meeting a demand. So talking about how animals are raised or fed is a valid argument, methinks.

However, I do think that anyone has the right to argue for vegetarianism and why not on a local internet board? The only drawback is that you can't expect that you'll get the majority of people to buy into your argument. If the discussion is on this particular board though, you will get some entertaining answers though, which is nice. I like the Venn diagram.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=Flo]However, I do think that anyone has the right to argue for vegetarianism and why not on a local internet board? The only drawback is that you can't expect that you'll get the majority of people to buy into your argument.

Perhaps. But this thread was split off after he started arguing for vegetarianism in a thread about a charity event involving a pork cookoff. It's kind of like posting in a thread about a gay wedding announcement to speak out against gay marriage. It's self-righteous, rude and annoying.

Ah. Did not know that. Still, I gotta say I can relate more to arguing against eating animals than arguing against which animals can eat out and marry their fellow kind.

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=Carnivore]
It's kind of like posting in a thread about a gay wedding announcement to speak out against gay marriage.

Gay marriage hurts no one, and only an idiot would oppose it. Meanwhile, an animal must be killed so that you can enjoy meat. There is no comparison.

Obviously there are a LOT of people like you who choose not to think about the suffering that goes hand-in-hand with the consumption of meat. If you think I'm rude for trying to remind you of the massive, industrialized cruelty that accompanies every strip of bacon you eat, I'm fine with that.


So I can only assume that you farm all your own produce, weave your own cloth for clothes you sew yourself, use no plastics, don't drive and wear no jewelry made of gold, silver, platinum or any precious stones?

Danny Hellman wrote: [quote=Carmen]
So I can only assume that you farm all your own produce, weave your own cloth for clothes you sew yourself, use no plastics, don't drive and wear no jewelry made of gold, silver, platinum or any precious stones?

You have reached Dial-a-Hippie™. Our offices are now closed. Please call back during business hours and repeat your strange, irrelevant comment, so that one of our live operators can laugh at you.


How is it at all irrelevant? Do you only care about animal suffering and not human suffering as well?

Well, I think the point is that you're being hypocritical. You want everyone to jump your "Meat Is Murder" bus but won't qualify your stance with anything other then some gross pictures. You're judging people for one thing but don't expect to be judged for YOUR transgressions. Get it?

i don't care much about all that. but it's silly to act as if those pictures are really intended to convince anyone of anything. or at least, that they have much chance of being effective -- most rational adults don't think pork is grown in chops, per se. posting only the pictures, no reasonable discourse, on a thread about an event is just hostile, nothing more. maybe it grosses some people out (not me really -- doctors' kid from ranching stock), but that energy is easily fueled into anger at you, not at meat eating. if you really want to convince us to stop eating meat, have at it, but you'll catch more flies with honey. (than with rotting carcasses? maybe not the best metaphor.)