Dogs tied-up outside stores
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I'm not a dog owner, and I'm not a dog person, I'm a cat person. Anyway, I don't want to offend anyone, but frankly I'm mystified by people leaving their dogs tied up on a street corner, just as I am mystified by people who let their cats out on the street.
I always notice dogs tied up on the street, because 90% of the time they are fucking miserable, just waiting for the moment their owner appears again.
Sometimes I'll see somebody approaching a dog that's tied up ... usually it's just a kid or somebody who sees a cute dog and wants to pet or talk to it, but there have been occasions when I've gotten a weird vibe from a guy approaching a dog, and I stood around and let him see me watching him until he went away.
I grew up in the Midwest, and even there we kept our pets safe at home. -
laura wrote: I always notice dogs tied up on the street, because 90% of the time they are fucking miserable, just waiting for the moment their owner appears again.
You know what, I'm going to change that to 100%. I mean, how would you feel. -
The Chipster wrote: Have any of you EVER left Park Slope? Have you EVER thought of anyone else beside your high and mighty self? Here's a true story.
I don't even get how this relates. Who, exactly, are you mad at? No one here is saying to bring the dogs in the stores.
I was working in a store, and someone brought their "nice" dog in. My coworker, who is NOT from the Slope, is scared to death of dogs. (Insert racial thread here, cuz it is you yuppie fuks)
Did the dog sense her fear? Or was it having a "bad day?"
He lunged at her, she dropped the ___, it broke, dog was barking like crazy, going at her, and she was IN TEARS. Customer stood there doing absolutely nothing.
JESUS CHRIST. YOU ENTITLED FUKERS NEVER CEASE TO AMAZE ME. -
Yeah...I don't get Chipster's post either. What does leaving Park Slope have to do with anything? And "racial threads"? "Yuppies"? It's nice they let him use the computer at whatever inpatient facility he's living at.
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laura wrote: [quote=laura]I always notice dogs tied up on the street, because 90% of the time they are fucking miserable, just waiting for the moment their owner appears again.
You know what, I'm going to change that to 100%. I mean, how would you feel.
seriously.
i just don't get how the owners can't read the obvious signs of anxiety and discomfort in their pets. watching that old lab out in the rain made me want to take the owner, dress him in a wet sweatsuit and make HIM sit outside in the freezing rain. -
laura wrote: I'm not a dog owner, and I'm not a dog person, I'm a cat person. Anyway, I don't want to offend anyone, but frankly I'm mystified by people leaving their dogs tied up on a street corner, just as I am mystified by people who let their cats out on the street.
I am not a "dog person" either. But I would not leave my bike tied up outside a store.
I always notice dogs tied up on the street, because 90% of the time they are fucking miserable, just waiting for the moment their owner appears again.
Sometimes I'll see somebody approaching a dog that's tied up ... usually it's just a kid or somebody who sees a cute dog and wants to pet or talk to it, but there have been occasions when I've gotten a weird vibe from a guy approaching a dog, and I stood around and let him see me watching him until he went away.
I grew up in the Midwest, and even there we kept our pets safe at home. -
How does it relate to bringing dogs into stores?! I'm sorry, but if you all are so opposed to leaving them tied up outside, what exactly ARE you proposing? Stickers? Pamphlets? That's hilarious!!
I agree with separating errand walks from dog walks in theory, but this is a very walkable neighborhood, and it's the rare individual who can go for a walk without stopping for fair trade coffee or recycled toilet paper. That's why we live here. -
It's not hard to separate dog walks from errands, especially if you don't take your dog for walks down 5/7th Aves. The walk is less enjoyable for me, the dog, and possibly others when we're on those busy streets. There's so much foot/stroller traffic that it's slow going and more distractions of food and people trying to pet my dog.
Besides the park, I keep dog walks on less busy streets and avenues. Less foot and car traffic to contend with and I get to see parts neighborhoods that I tend to see while running errands.
Time for walks is just one of the things you should be willing to dedicate when getting a dog (along with $$, attention, picking up poop, etc.). IMO
I do think some folks who tie dogs outside of stores don't realize how upsetting it can be to the dogs and inconvenient to others, but people who tie dogs up while they eat/drink at a bar don't deserve a dog (I've seen this too often and I'm not referring to situations where the dog is with the person, under the table). Not cool. -
The Chipster wrote: How does it relate to bringing dogs into stores?! I'm sorry, but if you all are so opposed to leaving them tied up outside, what exactly ARE you proposing? Stickers? Pamphlets? That's hilarious!!
What I am saying is that if people really gave a shit about their pets, they would not tie them up while they shopped.
I agree with separating errand walks from dog walks in theory, but this is a very walkable neighborhood, and it's the rare individual who can go for a walk without stopping for fair trade coffee or recycled toilet paper. That's why we live here. -
The Chipster wrote: How does it relate to bringing dogs into stores?! I'm sorry, but if you all are so opposed to leaving them tied up outside, what exactly ARE you proposing? Stickers? Pamphlets? That's hilarious!!
seriously... wow. I'm just going to guess that you don't have a dog. I am confident that EVERYONE who was saying to not leave the dog outside did not mean to bring the dog inside the store.
I agree with separating errand walks from dog walks in theory, but this is a very walkable neighborhood, and it's the rare individual who can go for a walk without stopping for fair trade coffee or recycled toilet paper. That's why we live here.
and re-read the pamphlets proposal as you clearly do not understand. The idea was not a proposal on how to leave your dog outside but how to respond to irresponsible owners who do leave them outside. -
When you are out shopping or dining, leave your dog at home. It's that simple. Simple enough for a dog to understand.
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laura wrote: [quote=laura]I always notice dogs tied up on the street, because 90% of the time they are fucking miserable, just waiting for the moment their owner appears again.
You know what, I'm going to change that to 100%. I mean, how would you feel.
Dogs endure extreme stress when tied up and temporarily abandoned by their owners. Even friendly dogs who are tied up to parking meters might bite strangers due to anxiety.
People who leave dogs tied up and abandoned in front of stores are:
a) sadistic
b) selfish
c) stupid
d) all of the above.
Before getting a dog, people should take an honest look at their schedules and lifestyles and determine if they have enough time to take on pet owners' hefty responsibilities. -
The Chipster wrote: How does it relate to bringing dogs into stores?! I'm sorry, but if you all are so opposed to leaving them tied up outside, what exactly ARE you proposing? Stickers? Pamphlets? That's hilarious!!
jeebus... are you really that thick?
I agree with separating errand walks from dog walks in theory, but this is a very walkable neighborhood, and it's the rare individual who can go for a walk without stopping for fair trade coffee or recycled toilet paper. That's why we live here.
that's like saying "why not take a shit in your car! i mean, you're already sitting down comfortably, so why not let yourself go?" -
Subject: Dogs tied outside
I am a dog owner, and I love my dog. But.
Let me put it this way ...
It's a dog. If push came to shove, and my family was starving, we would eat our dog. SO, a dog being tied up outside for a few minutes to go into a store is really O.K., in the grand scheme of things.
Disclaimer:
This post in no ways advocates eating dogs without a dire situation of necessity. -
Subject: Re: Dogs tied outside
charlesbklyn wrote: I am a dog owner, and I love my dog. But.
Fine, eat your dog when it comes to that. But you might not have a dog to eat if you leave it tied up while you run inside just for a minute to get coffee.
Let me put it this way ...
It's a dog. If push came to shove, and my family was starving, we would eat our dog. SO, a dog being tied up outside for a few minutes to go into a store is really O.K., in the grand scheme of things.
Disclaimer:
This post in no ways advocates eating dogs without a dire situation of necessity.
The last time we were discussing this, I told the story of my friend's boxer who was stolen in what must have seemed like the blink of an eye. My friends spent a long time searching for that beast, and never got her back. They ended up doing boxer rescue for a few years as a result, but (duh) it's a totally scaring experience for owner and pet.
Here's the earlier thread:
http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=33393&highlight=&sid=8fd09abb73ad1393437d73e06061798f -
scottb2k wrote: [quote=Mpmav1][quote=scottb2k][quote=legoflambchop][quote=Christina]Who steals a dog, and why? For the reward?
dogfight bait. no joke. BTW...This usually entails the animal having its mouth taped shut with duct tape, being tied to a post and allowing the dogs being trained to maul them to death. It's a shame more people don't realize this goes on.
BTW: I do, in fact, believe it to be true. I have had the unfortunate experience of working on a case where dog fighting was at issue and learned far too much about this horrible crime.
It one of those thing's that is so unbelievably cruel and terrible that most people don't want to think about it and it's easier to just pretend it doesn't exist...unfortunatley once you do a little digging or are exposed to the realities of it(as you and I can attest to) it's something you never forget.
this ^^^
yes it's true -
I also have to agree with the poster who mentioned that normal dogs get stressed when tied up outside. I have seen so many people try to walk up to tied up dogs to pet them - which is just asking to be bitten. I always give tied up dogs a wide berth, because you just never know. That's a stressful situation for them - all the more reason to NOT tie your dog up outside of a store - because if your dog bites someone, you would be responsible.
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