possibly moving to the area ...
i'll be making a few of these posts, one each in the prospect heights, park slope, and brooklyn heights boards, it'd be easier to just make one thread for all three, but i guess i'll do it this way.
anyway, i should be attending brooklyn college this fall and i'm trying to narrow down some apartments to look at when i start looking towards the end of july, and i wanted to gather some info from people who actually live in these areas.
my main question is: which areas (streets and whatnot) of prospect heights are the safest/best? which are areas to stay away from? i know a lot of people are in the habit of listing apartments as being in an area but really not being in that area, just in a close by, less desirable area, so i'd like to figure out which of these are actually worthwhile places to move into.
thanks ahead of time.
anyway, i should be attending brooklyn college this fall and i'm trying to narrow down some apartments to look at when i start looking towards the end of july, and i wanted to gather some info from people who actually live in these areas.
my main question is: which areas (streets and whatnot) of prospect heights are the safest/best? which are areas to stay away from? i know a lot of people are in the habit of listing apartments as being in an area but really not being in that area, just in a close by, less desirable area, so i'd like to figure out which of these are actually worthwhile places to move into.
thanks ahead of time.
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I'd say anything between Washington and Flatbush is better than most streets between Washington and Franklin (which regardless of where the "real" border is, will all be listed as Prospect Heights), but will also be more expensive.
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agree with ams. and be sure you're north of eastern parkway and south of atlantic. you never know what a listing may actually mean...
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Are there any Brooklyn College message boards you can ask advice on, or try to find roommates on? The school itself might be of assistance.
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If the neighborhoods you're considering are Park Slope, Brooklyn Heights and Prospect Heights, then I agree with ams that you don't want to be east of Washington (in Crown Heights, although as ams said, most real estate agents will try to tell you it is Prospect Heights if it's near Franklin).
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Prospect heights is by far the most affordable of the 3 nabes you listed. The real borders are Flatbush to the west, Atlantic to the north, Washington to the east and Eastern Parkway/Grand Army Plaza to the south. Stay within that trapezoid and you will be fine, though places tend to get more expensive as you head towards park slope (Flatbush border).
Other neighborhoods worth checking out include Cobble hill (south of Brooklyn Heights' Atlantic Border) and Carrol Gardens (South of there). There are a lot of great amenities on Court and Smith streets. -
thanks for the info, guys.
yeah, i've seen a lot of prospect heights listings that seem to be franklin ave-centric, i'm guessing that's not exactly a good thing, eh?
and i'm not looking for a roommate, i plan to live alone, and i haven't found a brooklyn college message board anyway.
i'm one of those people that worries a lot more before the fact than once i'm actually in a situation, so right now i'm kinda picturing nothing but mugging and stabbings, haha. i'm sure once i get there, i'll be less nervous, although that may be to my downfall.
if i have 1500-1700 to spend on rent a month, which of those neighborhoods is the best to look at? with the tacking on of cobble hill and carroll gardens. generally, i'd like an area that's relatively peaceful throughout most the day but with access to late-night stuff nearby or in bordering neighborhoods, i don't really mind being around a mix of old/young people, and i don't mind if i have to commute a long way to school as long as the place i'm living is nice. -
i live in the eastern part of ph, between washington and underhill and i recommend staying west of washington ave if you can. there is a noticable difference in the area once you cross washington ave especially as you get out towards franklin.
i don't know what current rents are in the area but you should be able to find something decent in that rent range. i have a pretty large 1 bedroom for a little more than your rent range. transportation might be a little more desirable in PH with the 2,3 and B,Q going towards brooklyn college. -
ah, yeah, it seems a lot of listings that seem more desirable as far as rent/size/niceness of the apartment are to the east of washington ave., i'm guessing it's probably better to stay west of there.
i'm guessing the northern part of park slope near flatbush ave. would be decent as well? -
raisedbywolves wrote: thanks for the info, guys.
Everytime I walk home I see this building on Park Place that has a garden/basement 1 bedroom for $1650. It's literally 5 steps off of the Q train (which is why I always notice it) and has been empty for a while, might be worth checking out.
yeah, i've seen a lot of prospect heights listings that seem to be franklin ave-centric, i'm guessing that's not exactly a good thing, eh?
and i'm not looking for a roommate, i plan to live alone, and i haven't found a brooklyn college message board anyway.
i'm one of those people that worries a lot more before the fact than once i'm actually in a situation, so right now i'm kinda picturing nothing but mugging and stabbings, haha. i'm sure once i get there, i'll be less nervous, although that may be to my downfall.
if i have 1500-1700 to spend on rent a month, which of those neighborhoods is the best to look at? with the tacking on of cobble hill and carroll gardens. generally, i'd like an area that's relatively peaceful throughout most the day but with access to late-night stuff nearby or in bordering neighborhoods, i don't really mind being around a mix of old/young people, and i don't mind if i have to commute a long way to school as long as the place i'm living is nice. -
raisedbywolves wrote: ah, yeah, it seems a lot of listings that seem more desirable as far as rent/size/niceness of the apartment are to the east of washington ave., i'm guessing it's probably better to stay west of there.
North Slope is traditionally considered to be the more expensive part of the Slope....the closer to the park, the more expensive as well.
i'm guessing the northern part of park slope near flatbush ave. would be decent as well?
Honestly....why not walk around these neighborhoods and get a feel for them yourself? You ask for what's "better" and "decent," but your definition of that is going to be different from, for example, what mine would be. There's people who live on Franklin Ave. who consider that to be more than decent. When I was new to the area, my then-girlfriend/now-wife would get on the train and spend the day in every area we considered. That's how we wound up in the Slope. -
I almost forgot Forte Greene! You should add that to your list for sure. It's just north of Prospect Heights (On the other side of Atlantic) and has lots to offer including BAM and tons of great resturaunts. Thw western side of FG has good transportation/trains as well.
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Are you looking for a studio or a 1 bedroom?
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itsbonczek wrote: i live in the eastern part of ph, between washington and underhill and i recommend staying west of washington ave if you can. there is a noticable difference in the area once you cross washington ave especially as you get out towards franklin.
Oh please. I've lived past Franklin off Lincoln for 5 years... its more than fine. In fact its great. And my wife and I moved from an overpirced one bedroom on the corner of Eastern and Underhill to a two-bedroom brownstone floor-through for a bunch less money. Don't let anyone here scare you... east of Washington (i.e., "western" Crown Heights) is a fine, safe place to live, and incredibly convenient to just about anywhere in Manhattan via the Franklin Ave/Eastern Pkwy station.
I guess it all depends on what you're used to... if you've never lived in an urban environment, than any place in any of the five boroughs is going to be scary to you. -
Transportation is key, be close to the #2 train so you can get to the Junction
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thanks everyone.
i can't do any walking around to check things out myself until i actually go up there to look. i can do that then, but i'm just planning ahead for now. i'm looking for anything up to a 2 bedroom, either studio or 1 bedroom is fine.
and i've lived in an urban environment before, just not in the states, someplace where crime wasn't really much of a worry. i realize crime is within every major city, i guess i'm just trying to minimize my chances. i'm not exactly the most intimidating looking person, i'm tall and skinny and probably don't look like i'd put up much of a fight, haha. but i'll check out stuff east of washington if i need to. -
just saw that they put a new sign in the window dropping the price to 1500. that apartment is such a dump. people coming off the Q use the entrance area as a garbage can
ams wrote: [quote=raisedbywolves]thanks for the info, guys.
Everytime I walk home I see this building on Park Place that has a garden/basement 1 bedroom for $1650. It's literally 5 steps off of the Q train (which is why I always notice it) and has been empty for a while, might be worth checking out.
yeah, i've seen a lot of prospect heights listings that seem to be franklin ave-centric, i'm guessing that's not exactly a good thing, eh?
and i'm not looking for a roommate, i plan to live alone, and i haven't found a brooklyn college message board anyway.
i'm one of those people that worries a lot more before the fact than once i'm actually in a situation, so right now i'm kinda picturing nothing but mugging and stabbings, haha. i'm sure once i get there, i'll be less nervous, although that may be to my downfall.
if i have 1500-1700 to spend on rent a month, which of those neighborhoods is the best to look at? with the tacking on of cobble hill and carroll gardens. generally, i'd like an area that's relatively peaceful throughout most the day but with access to late-night stuff nearby or in bordering neighborhoods, i don't really mind being around a mix of old/young people, and i don't mind if i have to commute a long way to school as long as the place i'm living is nice. -
jgregorie wrote: just saw that they put a new sign in the window dropping the price to 1500. that apartment is such a dump. people coming off the Q use the entrance area as a garbage can
But it's so close to the train! -
I don't think that living east of washington is bad. Most of the time the people that you'd be sketchy about are not gonna bother you. Also, there are a good amount of nice things on Franklin Ave as well...it's hardly a "really bad" area.
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ntfool wrote: [quote=itsbonczek]i live in the eastern part of ph, between washington and underhill and i recommend staying west of washington ave if you can. there is a noticable difference in the area once you cross washington ave especially as you get out towards franklin.
Oh please. I've lived past Franklin off Lincoln for 5 years... its more than fine. In fact its great. And my wife and I moved from an overpirced one bedroom on the corner of Eastern and Underhill to a two-bedroom brownstone floor-through for a bunch less money. Don't let anyone here scare you... east of Washington (i.e., "western" Crown Heights) is a fine, safe place to live, and incredibly convenient to just about anywhere in Manhattan via the Franklin Ave/Eastern Pkwy station.
I guess it all depends on what you're used to... if you've never lived in an urban environment, than any place in any of the five boroughs is going to be scary to you.
i agree with this. -
mjl83lukas wrote: I don't think that living east of washington is bad. Most of the time the people that you'd be sketchy about are not gonna bother you. Also, there are a good amount of nice things on Franklin Ave as well...it's hardly a "really bad" area.
I didn't mean to imply that east of Washington is "bad" at all. I just don't think that it's what someone who is considering Park Slope, Brooklyn Heights and Prospect Heights as their prospective neighborhoods is looking for. -
Be careful of living very close to Atlantic (or Flatbush, I'd assume). It can get very noisy, even at night from all the traffic, especially if you're on the ground floor. Also, the Clinton/Washington C is very convenient to North East PH (or south Fort Greene) - but not on weekends.
Oh, also, if you're near Vanderbilt, that's where all the tasty restaurants are!
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