today spoted a homeless guy sleeping next to a business

ENOUGH!!

No personal attacks! DR is not immune, he still owes me whiskey. Just stop please. :roll:

Due to being bored and half drunk, I've decided to get involved. Yeah, leave the guy alone. Homeless? Well, that sucks. Was he bothering someone? Was he being threatening? Sounds like he was sleeping, according to the post. What's the big deal? Now, if he's one of these homeless people that somehow gets into the building and sleeps in the vestibule or on the steps that's another matter. But asleep outside? What's the big deal?

I can kind of understand- if I was homeless I would totally just play with myself in front of children. What else is there to do? Plus he scored some cash? Saweet!!!! Now if only I knew how to kick the 7th ave F stattion homeless person out. Grrr. Summer approaches and she is going to start stinking the joint up with her bathroom breaks, lysol and cigs.

Cut AW a little slack here. At least he called 311. A lot of people call 911 to ask for an ambulance when they want to get rid of a homeless person near their home or business. If the homeless person is actually drunk, they're not allowed to refuse transport, and if necessary the police will be called to coerce them into coming to the hospital. Then they get a full medical evaluation, and can't be released from the ER until they're sober. A huge waste of resources all around, and grossly unfair to homeless who are just having a drink and not doing anything to bother anyone. On the other hand, it's a policy that errs on the side of pubic safety (intoxicated people may be sick and lack capacity to make decisions for themselves). It's really the abuse of the system by property owners to get rid of someone they don't like that's the problem.

If you read the ambulance call reports on the homeless drunk guys, the chief complaint is usually something like "I'm drunk" or "Leave me alone" or "I'm OK."

what business was it in front of?

Armchair Warrior was born and raised in Brooklyn!

I don't see what good carting this guy to an ER would do. Once sober and discharged, he'd make a beeline for the nearest deli or liquor store and be right back on the sidewalk. Unless a legal entity mandates a person to treatment (and in some cases, particularly with NYC Dept of Probation, even that often fails), no one can coerce him to change his ways. Zeitgeist places civil liberties above mental health.

I grew up in Brooklyn too, I clearly remember seeing a lady bum taking a piss in a doorway. It was quite a site!

hey AW,
ya notice how no one here thought about how this homeless guy could just as easily been playing with himself right next to an outdoor cafe they were dining at on 7th ave ? at which point it would be a horrible disgusting thing.

but you see, since it didnt happen to them personally,
masturbating homeless guy somehow becomes an heroic figure.

of course had you reported that a stroller mom had been blocking the door, well , im sure these same people would have been totally with ya.

I'd like to speak for everyone (yes, every single person that reads this board) and ask about this "playing with himself" comment.

Let me get this straight: 1)he was "playing with himself" 2) inside his pants 3) kinda sleeping and/or in "sleeping position"... 4) according to armchair. How close exactly did you get AW? Pictures?


For me it just doesn't add up. Maybe this homeless guy had some jock itch, maybe he was scratching his balls. It certainly doesn't sound like this guy was glaring at passerbys with his junk in his hand, furiously masturbating, coyly grinning while whiskey ran down his chin.

Sounds to me like he was drunk, itchy, and tired. Who among us hasn't scratched their balls or equivalents?

Why do you hate itchy balls AW?

I agree with what you say, Carnivore, but in the end these types usually decline all services and are promptly discharged, often to show up again to repeat the process in less than a month. I used to work in an ER and saw this pattern all the time.