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Franklin Ave station accident this morning - Page 2 — Brooklynian

Franklin Ave station accident this morning

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  • NEW YORK -- Authorities say a man jumped to his death in front of a Brooklyn subway train, causing rush-hour service delays for about 90 minutes.

    The Fire Department said two other people received medical treatment. They reportedly suffered from shock after witnessing the gruesome scene.

    The unidentified man jumped in front of a northbound No. 5 train at Franklin Avenue and Eastern Parkway around 8:30 a.m. Tuesday.

    Service was suspended on the No. 4 and No. 5 lines in both directions between the Bowling Green and Atlantic Avenue stations.
  • Whatchuwant wrote: [quote=joseph11]Instead of guessing who it is why not offer a pray for the guy. Stop trying to link youself to a tragedy. "I thik I know him" "Could it Be???"
    I DO feel bad for the guy. And if I want to "link myself to a tragedy" (whatever that means :roll: ) I'll do it. Mind your own damn business.

    I'm just trying to figure out who it was. Wouldn't it be strange to you if you saw someone who just a little while later died?!?! Have YOU no emotion about something so horrible? It sucks, I'm curious, and I wanted to know. My two measly posts about it on this board does not mean I'm walking throughout my day wondering. I have way bigger fish to fry. I'm just sharing.


    I may have felt like Joseph once upon a time in my life - like what is your motive for wanting to connect yourself to a tragedy? However, among other events, 2 years ago a new art gallery opened near me: www.redtinshack.com on Columbia Street. I heard about it, wandered in and met a lovely, young woman, Emily, who was the co-founder. We talked way too long - chatting about the neighborhood - she was from out of town and I gave her some tips about places to go and people to seek out. We bonded and I swore I'd be back soon and often.

    Anyway, life intruded, I've never never made it back to the gallery for whatever reason (and I had sometimes wondered if it was still open - it is) and it wasn't until 2 weeks ago that I stopped into a nearby store and was chatting with the owner and she told me, in passing conversation, that the young woman had been hit by a car and killed (on little-trafficked side street, Tiffany Place, no less) about 6 months after I met her. The event happened 2 years ago, I only spoke to Emily once and yet I have been disturbed and moved since finding out this horrible news. She looked to be about 23 years old and was so vibrant and full of energy and enthusiasm about helping undiscovered artists and finding her way in her new "home city," Brooklyn.

    I now understand, fully, WUW and why she wants to know.
  • Tragedies like these really highlight the need for adequate and thoughtful services for homeless men in NYC. I don’t know the specifics of this man’s situation, but I would be surprised if the support and treatment he’d been able to access from the City was anywhere near adequate to address what was clearly a condition of crisis for him. If he did significant services from the City, he was one of the lucky few.

    This tragedy also highlights the effect that bad homeless policy has on communities and the daily lives of the people who make up those communities, as evidenced by the posts above. Anyone inclined to make the stale and callous argument that it is too expensive to treat the homeless adequately should do some quick math on what this one isolated tragedy has cost the city, and all of us.

    This issue is of particular relevance to our community right now, since the City is currently planning to redirect what may be up to 14,000 homeless men annually from all over New York City to the Bedford-Atlantic Armory between Franklin, Atlantic, Bedford and Pacific (see other postings to this board). Unlike the East 30s in Manhattan, where intake for homeless men has been located for many years until this move, the facility at the armory and our neighborhood in general has few if any jobs or services for the homeless (but a lot more gang and drug activity). The plan constitutes a further erosion of services to the homeless, and not only the homeless, but all of NYC will suffer as a result, starting with our neighborhood. Unfortunately, we can all expect a pretty dramatic surge in this type and other related incidents in our neighborhood, as the City further reneges on its commitment to providing for the homeless and the communities into which they are concentrated without treatment or services.
  • do we know he was homeless?

    ...I'm all for better services to the homeless, but lots of people kill themselves.
  • This thread has TWO separate incidents. Check the dates (should've just kept the new thread, mods). The first guy, I was speculating that it was a homeless guy. Second guy...who knows?
  • AM NY reports the first incident involved a homeless man (according to a post above from whynot_31). The second it sounds like, we do not know yet.

    Not saying that others don't also commit suicide, but I am arguing that there is a very high incidence of various kinds of crises (substance abuse, mental illness, depression, health problems) among the male homeless population of NYC. I am also arguing that the current trend in City policy seems to be to cut back on services to these men, and instead of treating them, to instead concentrate them in "out of the way" (read into that what you will) communities where the wealthy residents of Manhattan do not have to see them as much.
  • agreed, two incidents getting confused.

    First guy was homeless.
    recent guy unknown.

    How and why services to the homeless suck is also different thread. ...one which is not likely spurn much debate (i.e. yup the services suck).
  • I agree with your points whynot. The other points I was trying to make were that, not only do services to the homeless suck, but:

    a) They are getting worse
    b) Crown Heights, and specifically the area around the train station where at least one homeless man killed himself this year (and possibly another) is about to be dramatically over-burdened with the chronically underserved male homeless population
  • This thread is about how the incident at Franklin Ave sucked. ...but I think it's had its day.

    These threads are about how the Armory shelter sucks, and homeless services suck.

    http://www.google.com/custom?hl=en&client=pub-1040068503971974&cof=FORID:1;GL:1;LBGC:336699;LC:#0000ff;VLC:#663399;GFNT:#0000ff;GIMP:#0000ff;DIV:#336699;&domains=www.brooklynian.com&ie=ISO-8859-1&oe=ISO-8859-1&q=atlantic+shelter&sitesearch=www.brooklynian.com

    They are tired as well.
    ...which, of course, sucks.
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