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Subject: clarification

I just want to clarify that I never once suggested that Councilwoman James is/was in any way negligent in her response to the aftermath of the block party. In fact, she's been nothing but helpful and informative about the events that transpired. Like the rest of us, she is very concerned about the safety and well-being of every woman, man and child who live in Prospect Heights and Crown Heights - and is devastated by the double homicide of two young men.

My post (suggesting that people on the board contact the Councilwoman) was intended to get people involved in their neighborhood - to ask questions, to get information, to find out what we can all do to make sure that this never happens again on our block. I thought that contacting the Councilwoman would be a good beginning. In my post, I was simply confused about some of her responses to my email, which is one of the hazards of an email exchange. Those questions have been answered:
yes, permits were issued for the block party (one for a sound system, one for use of the street); no, there won't be any permits issued for St Johns Place for some time to come; and yes, she was aware that there was a block association (I misread her email with regards to this last query.)

I sincerely hope that out of this tragedy comes dialogue. It's not about race or gentrification - it's about the welfare and future of all of our children. We all live here together and our kids attend the same schools. Community Board meetings resume in the fall...

There were more than two shots fired as well. Perhaps it was a separate incident and didn't result in injury or death, but the 8 shots I heard were not fireworks - I've been in this neighborhood long enough to know the difference.

so, howdareu, I figure the only option you have is to PM Paraderest your identity and get him to re-vouch for you.

...or the board has effectively called BS.

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=52099

So - howdareu - the person who "works at the 77th" - is bogus?

Those 8 shots were not fireworks. I heard them from my apartment loud and clear. The occured in quick succession, although them seemed to go on forever.

Carnivore wrote: [quote=marknyc]So - howdareu - the person who "works at the 77th" - is bogus?

If you look at some of howdareu's earliest posts, they didn't seem to suggest s/he worked at the precinct at that time, although it seemed like s/he knows people there, possibly from the community council meetings. I suppose it's possible that s/he was hired since then.

http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?p=50603&highlight=#50603

howdareu wrote: NOW THAT I DO KNOW THE FRIVILOUS CALLS THAT YOU MAKE I WILL PERSONALLY GO THE 77TH PRECINT MYSELF AND SPEAK TO ALL THE HIGH UP INDIVIDUALS THAT I KNOW PERSONALLY AND BRING WITH ME A COPY OF THESE IDIOTIC IDEAS JUST TO LET THEM KNOW WHEN THEY ARE BEING CALLED UPON LYING NONSENSE WHEREAS THEY CAN BE NEEDED SOMEWHERE ELSE PREVENTING A SERIOUS CRIME FROM BEING COMMITTED PLEASE GET A LIFE AND STOP INTERUPTING OTHERS

...it is possible that Paraderest does not know that one of his co-workers is posting. Which is why howdareu was encouraged to PM Paraderest. Something along the lines of "hey, I'm Officer Jones, the guy who always gets assigned the car with the dent"

...as a result of which, Paraderest would post: Whoops, I know howdareu afterall.

yes, all of this supports a verdict of "We call BS"

...this jury member is on board, but just wants to give howdareu the opportunity to mount a defense. You gotta have faith in the system.

howdareu wrote: The fireworks were not on St. John's at all. Yes its very true the event was over 2 to 3 hours prior. There was one DJ set that was not affiliated or hired by the organizer. The street was open. A lot of people were on their way home after 8:30 and there were still a lot of people there. The staff did tell the DJ to pack up and he did and the police were close by no one person can tell a group of people to go home a little faster. Mr Jones doesn't attract a rough crowd his people were the adults in the middle of the block.

There was no permit denied ever and there was no misleading that it was a child day safety event/ bock party like stated on the flyer. The permit only says block party.

This is a blog we all understand that, so opinions are opinions, and facts are facts. God Bless and I hope all those who would like to attend the block meeting can send me a message, and give me a date where most can attend. We we were thinking a Saturday afternoon or evening.

While it the organizers may have had fine intentions, I'm more interested in how a reoccurance of the disorderly behavior (aka drunk loud people) will be prevented in future years.

What will be done differently in future years?
What requirements should be put on the organizers to ensure some order?

...there is also the pesky matter of your claim of working at the 77th pct.

P.S. I'm all for block parties. ...unfortunately they are sometimes much harder t arrange than setting up some music and a bbq.

ParadeRest wrote: [quote=whynot_31]"hey, I'm Officer Jones, the guy who always gets assigned the car with the dent"

It would be alot easier to find the car withoutthe dent.

+1

...but doesn't only the CO get to drive that car?
For some reason, I don't think we are talking about a white shirt.

HAHA!

This how we can end this any day this week at 4:30 you can meet me at the 77th precinct. Come to the front desk ask to speak to the community affairs officer. I won't give you any officers name here but I would love to speak to you in person and answer all your inquiries.

howdareu wrote: This how we can end this any day this week at 4:30 you can meet me at the 77th precinct. Come to the front desk ask to speak to the community affairs officer. I won't give you any officers name here but I would love to speak to you in person and answer all your inquiries.

So are you saying you are the community affairs officer?

Hey ParadeRest, does impersonating an officer in writing online carry the same penalties as doing it in person?

howdareu wrote: This how we can end this any day this week at 4:30 you can meet me at the 77th precinct. Come to the front desk ask to speak to the community affairs officer. I won't give you any officers name here but I would love to speak to you in person and answer all your inquiries.

You've been provided with an anonymous way to have a fellow officer vouch for you, yet have chosen to not mount a defense. How come?

...we've reached our conclusions as to why.

So you're abandoning your story that you're an officer at the 77th precinct then?