Retriever Puppy kicked by band members in Prospect Park

I hate to inform the people who would like to see off lease hour's space in Prosepect Park curtailed, any politician who supports this idea would lose enough votes to see themselves straight out of office.

well that's really sad.

Before 9:00am, dog owners rule the park.

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This reminds me of the idiot parents who would bring their small children into the tiny dog run on 5th ave and complain when playing dogs would jostle their kids. Nothing but playground surrounding the run and no dogs allowed in the playground but that wasn't enough for them.

another person that thinks: off-leash area = dog run

sorry, caseo

Don't be sorry, I was talking about an actual fenced in dog run on 5th ave. It used to be next to the old stone house.

If someone can't handle a freaking puppy sniffing them during off-leash hours in one of the 3 places dogs are allowed to run around then they have a whole 500+ acres of park to choose from.

I haven't taken my dog(s) to the park in over 5 years so I don't really care about the whole off leash thing. What I find ridiculous is some people being all pissy because a puppy dared to sniff some jerk's leg and his/her owner didn't control immediately race over to yank the puppy away from him. Tired of the kid/dog analogies? How's this?

Don't go to bars if you don't want to be around alcohol or drunk people.

Don't go to a rock concert if you don't want to hear loud music.

Don't go to a Knicks game if you hate basketball.

Don't go to a musical if you hate people singing about every freaking thing they're doing.

Don't come to my house if you hate cats.

It's pretty fucking simple, really.

Don't go to bars if you don't want to be around alcohol or drunk people.

Don't go to a rock concert if you don't want to hear loud music.

Don't go to a Knicks game if you hate basketball.

Don't go to a musical if you hate people singing about every freaking thing they're doing.

adult/dog analogies are no better

As a human being living in a city with other human beings, I put up with shit from other people that irritates me.

right. but we are talking about dogs.

Dude, you and I will never agree on this.

yea, i can see that.

to be honest, i don't really care if people let their dogs off leash. i would just hope that a dog owner would say sorry and get their dog away from me if i asked them to, rather than act indignant about it.

i used to let my dog run loose in prospect park and now i see how rude it was. she would go up to strangers and follow dogs that were on leash.

"Their" is plural possessive and should never be used as a singular. Even though it might be awkward, it's best to use "his/her" in its place, particularly when one does not know the gender of the possessive subject.

Me teach high school English. Me knoweth my Englishz.

I concur with Mr. Met on these issues. Of course puppies and dogs will disobey their collective owners, but the owner always needs to be responsible for the dogs' actions. The park has rules in order to maintain this. Without rules, THE WORLD WOULD CRUMBLE INTO CHAOS!

Don't go to a Knicks game if you like basketball, either.

well done

mr. met wrote:

As a human being living in a city with other human beings, I put up with shit from other people that irritates me.

right. but we are talking about dogs.

Yes, dogs happen to be something that irritate some people. I don't understand why you aren't getting that point. It's not even about the dogs, it's about putting yourself in a situation that annoys you. (General you, not you mr. met.) Especially when it's a situation that's very easy to avoid. Do you see where I'm going with this?

mr. met wrote: i do understand what you are saying. if i didn't like dogs, i would just avoid prospect park during those times so i wouldn't have to deal with them. BUT that's not how it should be. people shouldn't have to avoid the park or certain areas (they are big) of the park for any reason related to an animal. if we are talking about a dog run, that's different. that is a fenced-in area made specifically for dogs. off-leash areas are not made for dogs; they are areas made for people that dogs are allowed to run around in provided they do not harass or bother people. so, if your dog doesn't listen to you, you shouldn't let it off its leash, even in off-leash areas, because it could bother people or other dogs that are on a leash.

That's not what I have a problem with, I agree that people should have control over their dogs. I can't explain it any clearer than I did before, it's not about dogs. It's about people.

mr. met wrote:

Yes, dogs happen to be something that irritate some people. I don't understand why you aren't getting that point. It's not even about the dogs, it's about putting yourself in a situation that annoys you. (General you, not you mr. met.) Especially when it's a situation that's very easy to avoid. Do you see where I'm going with this?

i do understand what you are saying. if i didn't like dogs, i would just avoid prospect park during those times so i wouldn't have to deal with them. BUT that's not how it should be. people shouldn't have to avoid the park or certain areas (they are big) of the park for any reason related to an animal. if we are talking about a dog run, that's different. that is a fenced-in area made specifically for dogs. off-leash areas are not made for dogs; they are areas made for people that dogs are allowed to run around in provided they do not harass or bother people. so, if your dog doesn't listen to you, you shouldn't let it off its leash, even in off-leash areas, because it could bother people or other dogs that are on a leash.

you are being intentionally obtuse and obstinate. you choose put yourself in a situation where anything less than 100% training and compliance by owner and dog would result in you being annoyed.

Subject: Re: Dog rules

rockhound wrote: [quote=charlesbklyn]
Before 9:00am, dog owners rule the park.

:roll:

Not this dog owner. I prefer to be a responsible dog owner and be considerate of other people by keeping my dog on a leash. As it happens, my dog is better trained to recall than most of those mutts running loose in Prospect Park.

My son used to bring her to off leash hours and other dog owners were amazed when they saw her leave off tussling with other dogs in immediate response to his voice command recall. "OH WOW THAT DOG IS TRAINED!!!" Jaws dropped. The fact that a well trained pit bull can prompt this kind of reaction at Prospect Park off leash says a lot.

Anyone can bring any dog to Prospect Park , healthy or not, vaccinated or not, trained or not, licensed or not, and let it run off leash. NO ONE is going to check the dog's status. Anyone who thinks this is a good idea is simply not thinking straight.

Funny how there has been little response to this post. I guess it's just a little too sensible.

My dog (who has passed) was part of the early off-leashers. I remember she scared the crap out of a poor little boy as he walked with his family through the park one morning. After that I made sure she was off leash only in the designated area of the nethermead. I also remember having a dog (off leash in the afternoon) jump up on me right on my new C-section scar while the owners told me to shut the fuck up (white hipster boys).

Most dogs have shitty recall that are off leash. I can't remember how many times I have heard owners yelling at their dogs ("Antigone!!!! ANNNTTTIIIIGONEEEEEE!!!!"), while the dog totally ignores them and tries to snarf down the human poop/chicken bones/bagel out of a kid's hand.

The dogs need to be confined to a very specific area of the park. It's getting out of control. The boundaries and guidelines need to be redefined.

Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote: I think most people would welcome a specified dog run. Other considerations aside, it would (I would hope) reduce the amount of crap my dog eats before I can yank it out of his mouth (thanks folks for leaving your garbage all over the park! Never seen a dog toss a candy wrapper on the ground...).

But to emphasis and get back sort of on topic - if you kick my car, I beat the snot out of you. If you kick my friends, I beat the snot out of you. If you kick my dog, I beat the snot out of you.

And if I make confit out of your pretty little bunnies?
Or maybe rabbit and rabbit liver pate with fresh morels?

Mamacita wrote: Prima, we need to have dinner together.... mummmm... I had this at the Stinking Rose In SF, it was good.

http://www.recipezaar.com/Roasted-Rabbit-With-Garlic-and-Olives-330233

Ew!!!!!! Poor witto bunnies!!!!! I don't know what good they are, cuz all they do is look cute, eat and poop, but I could never eat one. At a farmhouse in the south of France they made all kinds of lapin stew and pate. Never could eat it - especially after playing with the bunnies.

But Pima, I am pretty sure rabbit is not fattty enough to confit. Just sayin.

Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote: I think most people would welcome a specified dog run. Other considerations aside, it would (I would hope) reduce the amount of crap my dog eats before I can yank it out of his mouth (thanks folks for leaving your garbage all over the park! Never seen a dog toss a candy wrapper on the ground...).

But to emphasis and get back sort of on topic - if you kick my car, I beat the snot out of you. If you kick my friends, I beat the snot out of you. If you kick my dog, I beat the snot out of you.

So what am I supposed to do when your dog jumps on me?

Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote: [quote=winstonsmith]

So what am I supposed to do when your dog jumps on me?

Stand there while I beat the snot out of you, of course.

this made me laugh because I can sort of see beave beating the hell out of someone after oscar jumps on them. 'DONT TOUCH MY DOG, ASSHOLE!' In my mind you would also beat them with a cane, a la flexi