not supprise media didn't really pick up on this.
Subject: not supprise media didn't really pick up on this.
when i was growing up this happen all the time in brooklyn. by black/hispanic/italian kids.i was the one of only few asian kids in school and that fought back. only problem is their friends and strangers would jump in. after they are getting beaten.
I wish some asian kid would do something like bring in a gun and mow a whole bunch down, this way the stereotype of asians doing nothing would change.
anyway the white administrators don't do squat about this. when i was growing up. i guess nothing really has change.
this was random punches, spiting, name calling(still happens in the streets in ghettos when i do deliveries).
I almost knock my liberal white professor out when he said minorities can't be racist only white people can. i told him i was beaten for whom i was because I was asian. he still went on and on about oh its economics etc... i walk out of his class. I guess he never grew up poor and live with poor minorities.
Dozens of the alleged incidents are relatively minor—name-calling, verbal threats, petty robberies, random punches in the head while walking down stairwells, and general intimidation. But according to Chen, at least six times last school year those minor incidents escalated into massive rumbles where outnumbered Asian students were pummeled by packs of teens, sending several of the victims to hospitals. Like the day last October when a group of around 30 kids allegedly attacked five Chinese students after school in the Snyder Avenue subway station, one block from school. That incident started when a black student walked up to a Chinese kid in the cafeteria, touched his hair and allegedly threw a carton of milk at him. Rumors of threats filtered through the school on the day after the subway rumble, and the notion of continued violence froze Asian students.
“That day, all the Chinese students were very scared,” says Chen, an 18-year old senior who formed the South Philadelphia High School Chinese-American Student Association in the days after the alleged subway attack. “Students avoided the lunch room. They were scared to walk home. They stayed in the ESOL (English for Speakers of Other Languages) department until their parents picked them up.”
Many Asian students continued living in fear for the remainder of the school year, even after one of the alleged subway assailants was identified on SEPTA cameras and transferred to another school. In a cry for help, scared students signed petitions, wrote letters, held meetings, staged a walkout and pleaded with school administrators to do something about the attacks.
But the violence at South Philly High, listed among the state’s “persistently dangerous schools” for the third consecutive year, continued.
The litany of abuses isn’t limited to South Philly High. Male and female Asian students—especially those new to the country, who speak little or fractured English—have been targeted over the past few years, in schools from the Northeast to South Philly, in elementary and high schools. Students and activists say that Chinese, Vietnamese, Cambodian, Pakistani and other Asian youth have been singled out, assaulted in cafeterias, hallways, on city streets, school buses and everywhere in between.
Kids say the violence has often been dismissed by school safety officers as well as administrators. “This is a cultural problem,” Wei Chen claims the former principal at South Philly told Asian students on the day after the subway rumble.
District officials acknowledge that some situations weren’t handled well, leaving many students feeling abandoned.
“There’s a lot of mistrust,” says comprehensive high school regional superintendent Michael Silverman. The impact of the violence on such vulnerable populations can have a major impact on their lives, activists say.
“We’ve heard of students not going to school—as young as 8th and 9th graders,” says Khin Mai Aung, a staff attorney with the Asian American Legal Defense and Education Fund (AALDEF).
“Some kids drop out. Others just become less involved and perform poorly. They can’t learn when they don’t feel safe.”
Where administrators or the School District intervened, improvements in student relations improved and the violence decreased—the number of overall violence in the district decreased by 17 percent last school year. But the culture of violence against Asian immigrants has existed for so long at some public schools that students almost accept that random beat downs are a part of life.
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/Asian-Students-Under-Assault.html
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Subject: Re: not supprise media didn't really pick up on this.
armchair_warrior wrote: I wish some asian kid would do something like bring in a gun and mow a whole bunch down, this way the stereotype of asians doing nothing would change.
What about the Virginia Tech shooting dude?
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Subject: Re: not supprise media didn't really pick up on this.
armchair_warrior wrote:
yes, this is surely the right answer
I wish some asian kid would do something like bring in a gun and mow a whole bunch down, this way the stereotype of asians doing nothing would change.
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/Asian-Students-Under-Assault.html -
Subject: Re: not supprise media didn't really pick up on this.
MeredithB wrote: [quote=armchair_warrior] I wish some asian kid would do something like bring in a gun and mow a whole bunch down, this way the stereotype of asians doing nothing would change.
What about the Virginia Tech shooting dude?
guy was a nut, he didn't take out anyone that matter.
growing up in a poor environment with random beatings is something else and you know who the racist kids are. they deserve to be shot, its like the legalize version of kkk with administrators looking the other way. -
Subject: Re: not supprise media didn't really pick up on this.
vidro3 wrote: [quote=armchair_warrior]
yes, this is surely the right answer
I wish some asian kid would do something like bring in a gun and mow a whole bunch down, this way the stereotype of asians doing nothing would change.
http://www.philadelphiaweekly.com/news-and-opinion/Asian-Students-Under-Assault.html
what do you want them to do talk about the problem? ( the schools did the talking thing with me and a whole bunch of thugs, it doesn't do anything, they said they won't do it again and next thing you know, a whole gang of kids show up after school)
the problem is those kids are violent thugs that doesn't respect anyone or themselves. other way is to kick them out of school, schools won't ever do that! -
Philadelphia is a city of thugs. Have you ever been to a sporting event in Philly? White thugs, black thugs, here a thug, there a thug...This is a city that just signed a guy who rips faces off of dogs to be their quarterback.
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You may be too young to have lived through this but in the 60's/70's, NYC initiated the bus program (white kids dragged off to predominantly black schools and black kids hauled off to predominantly white schools) and "Race riots" happened all the time.
I think the underlying reasons still are poverty and ignorance (not to mention the mob/peer pressure mentality that ALL teenagers buy into). I remember some of my white friends that went to John Jay in the 60's, Alexander Hamilton or Sarah J Hale in the 70's or South Shore in the 80's getting grief (or worse) just because they were not part of the majority. They lived. Some even learned and thrived. The violent thugs? Dead or in jail. Same will apply whatever the color of the thug.
Do I think kids are more violent and dangerous today? Absolutely. Do I think increased violence is the answer? Seems to me that has been proven WRONG time and time again (see definitions of "war" or "police action").
The only way to fight ignorance is to provide people with knowledge. Unfortunately, there are those that just want to be mired in their misery and ignorance - and are happy to see others just as hopeless as themselves.
What you advocate is buying right into the cycle of violence, poverty and ignorance. The NYC school system does provide a transfer to other schools - and I would think that ongoing harassment definitely qualifies as a reason. I believe there is even a GLBT high school since these kids were harassed for their sexual orientation. -
pokersloper wrote: Philadelphia is a city of thugs. Have you ever been to a sporting event in Philly? White thugs, black thugs, here a thug, there a thug...This is a city that just signed a guy who rips faces off of dogs to be their quarterback.
that's not fair. he will definitely spend some time at wide receiver. -
Philadelphia is the city where a guy was getting beat up with baseball bats, the neighborhood called 911, and the operator hung up because the caller wasn't polite enough. Those 911 tapes made the news for weeks and give you a good idea of the sensitivity of people living in Philly.
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Well THAT just gives me the warm and fuzzies!!!! I have clients in Philly - one by the airport and one in Bala Cynwyd. Took Amtrak down 2 weeks ago and thought North Philly didn't look any better or worse than some areas of Brooklyn. Again, did not walk or drive through it - based on appearances only.
Remind me never to stay overnight. Not a thug fan. -
yank yank... who hasn't had a scuffle in high school?
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With a backwards attitude like that [op] I am not surprised you got flipped in school.
In all seriousness- If a person ching-chong-chang or otherwise spat this half sensitive, half tough guy shit in person- I'd probably laugh in his face.
Some kids are dicks & fuck with others for no reason.
Some kids are dicks & get fucked with because they're dicks.
just saying- -
Domino wrote: The NYC school system does provide a transfer to other schools - and I would think that ongoing harassment definitely qualifies as a reason. I believe there is even a GLBT high school since these kids were harassed for their sexual orientation.
not really, i tried. -
BrooklynChimp wrote: With a backwards attitude like that [op] I am not surprised you got flipped in school.
you don't know me or what i been though, you'll never get to walk in my shoes. when was the last time someone give you a racial slur or a punch out of no where for no reason simply because you are different?
In all seriousness- If a person ching-chong-chang or otherwise spat this half sensitive, half tough guy shit in person- I'd probably laugh in his face.
Some kids are dicks & fuck with others for no reason.
Some kids are dicks & get fucked with because they're dicks.
just saying-
i never miss treat others, unless they mistreat me first. its something people like you never understand. i mind my own business until someone gets into my business.
i'm curious what race are you? cause you don't mind saying ching chong at all. its a racial slur much as a n word is. -
jesus foking christ!
I get it- you had it rough, alah neglected all asians in Brooklyn, my bad?
You're right though, I don't know you.
But I do know Brooklyn. I know you weren't the only one getting jumped for reasons or simply because. I know it sucks to feel as if you're some how singled out because of what you look like. I know, trust me.
Stop giving these people you hate power. It's self destructive & will only cause you harm.
There's more to life than this.
And frankly thinking in these terms of race, black, white, brown, etc- is somewhat repressive to the specie. We need to get beyond this petty shit.
Stay Healthy -
ah avoid the question about your ethnic background how typical. you did use racial slur, so lets have it. hiding behind anonymity of the net hm.
Holder says Americans afraid to talk about race
New attorney general wants criticism aired
http://www.boston.com/news/nation/washington/articles/2009/02/19/holder_says_americans_afraid_to_talk_about_race/ -
ethnicity [(eth-nis-uh-tee)]
-Human Being.
Identity with or membership in a particular racial, national, or cultural group and observance of that group's customs, beliefs, and language.
Now stop reaching kind sir.
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BrooklynChimp - right on!
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Domino wrote: BrooklynChimp - right on!
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It's just how life is. You go to school and if you're not tough, or even if you are, you get your ass kicked. Sometimes, you even kick a little ass and get the kudos which come with it. I think people should be more worried about gangs and guns in schools rather than worrying about one's race. Unless of course this is what the gangs and guns thing is about. It's been a few years since I went to school, ya know?
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Listen B.Chimp,
Armchair is a long time member of these boards. He is very interested in political and racial issues - this is something any new member might not know. Sometimes I read what he posts sometimes I go "ah, it's just AW on another heated issue" but he is not hurting anyone and sometimes his posts end up engaging some interesting discussions.
If his posts annoy you then just don't read them. It's advice that even I have a hard time taking. But seriously, as a newbie get a feel for the members and try not to pick fights. -
Mamacita wrote: Listen B.Chimp,
+1
Armchair is a long time member of these boards. He is very interested in political and racial issues - this is something any new member might not know. Sometimes I read what he posts sometimes I go "ah, it's just AW on another heated issue" but he is not hurting anyone and sometimes his posts end up engaging some interesting discussions.
If his posts annoy you then just don't read them. It's advice that even I have a hard time taking. But seriously, as a newbie get a feel for the members and try not to pick fights. -
Carnivore wrote: [quote=Mamacita]Listen B.Chimp,
+1
Armchair is a long time member of these boards. He is very interested in political and racial issues - this is something any new member might not know. Sometimes I read what he posts sometimes I go "ah, it's just AW on another heated issue" but he is not hurting anyone and sometimes his posts end up engaging some interesting discussions.
If his posts annoy you then just don't read them. It's advice that even I have a hard time taking. But seriously, as a newbie get a feel for the members and try not to pick fights.
seniority aplomb's a public forum- surprised? .. :? nah-
my intent was not to 'pick fights' but to address points which armchair brought up.
'newbie' or not- this is a forum. And as such each and every contribution is decisive. Sorry if i don't fall in lead with the pseudo hierarchy you've established for yourselves here.
Ideas on a public forum will be addressed- regardless of post count.
You seem cool enough, so lets just leave it at that-
peace.
-- oh! and other senior members share me thinks, so...
MOD NOTE: Get over yourself. The "ching chong chang" that you edited out from your post above or the "thanks jackie chang" from the other thread are not "addressing ideas." In fact, the personal attacks are in violation of the site rules (link at the top of every page of the site). Perhaps it wasn't clear that I was speaking as a moderator and Mamacita as a site admin, but let me make myself clear now. Discuss ideas all you want, but if you persist in personally attacking other members, regardless of their post count, you won't be here long.
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