Abusive boyfriend throws girlfriend's stuff on sidewalk
Subject: Abusive boyfriend throws girlfriend's stuff on sidewalk
A few mnutes ago walking the dog on Plaza St East near St John's young guy (20's) verbally fighting with girlfriend throws her stuff on sidewalk then in menacing tone tells concerned passersby to mind their own business when offering to help her. She was keeping her distance from him, very hesitant while picking up her stuff. She insisted she was "OK" but her body language said something else. Now I'm agitated and worried for her. Whewwww!Comments
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Hey everyone out there, if you are concerned that domestic violence is occurring call 911. The police will respond, that's their job. The police can also press charges irrespective of what the victim says s/he wants.
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i learn to mind my own god damn business, things aren't always as what they appear to be, don't jump into of it.
learn my lesson with this thread.
http://www.brooklynian.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=53356 -
Yeah, maybe the chick fucked his brother or something. Unless he was beating her down, leave it be. None of your bizness.
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I am sure you will see them strolling down Plaza street next week holding hands.
I too have learned my lesson.
I tried to help a young lady who's boyfriend punched her square in the face and
her response was "Well, I did push him"
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Well, I trusted my instincts. The situation was clearly abusive. The guy was a total bully and that girl was scared. I saw something and I said something. Would do it again if needed. Nuff said.
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Subject: abusive boyfriend
You did the right thing. -
Subject: Re: Abusive boyfriend throws girlfriend's stuff on sidewalk
Rubyslipper wrote: A few mnutes ago walking the dog on Plaza St East near St John's young guy (20's) verbally fighting with girlfriend throws her stuff on sidewalk then in menacing tone tells concerned passersby to mind their own business when offering to help her. She was keeping her distance from him, very hesitant while picking up her stuff. She insisted she was "OK" but her body language said something else. Now I'm agitated and worried for her. Whewwww!
Its nice of you to care and if concerned, do call 911...
but maybe she was "keeping her distance" and being "hesitant" because as oldtime said,
1)she just fucked the guy's bro,
2) or his best friend,
3) or started doing drugs again
4) or stole his money or who knows what
There's plenty of legit reasons to have your triflin' ass thrown out on the street. Seems unfair to malign someone without having all the facts on hand. -
yeah Ruby,
you did the right thing.
It would suck to be the girl who is getting beat up by her boyfriend and have people walk by and ignore her.
It's not acceptable behavior to verbally abuse women or children.
I see lots of people curse their kids out and I give them the eye of death, usually say something super sarcastic. It makes me pretty sad, but sometimes trying to be a hero can get you hurt. -
The cops always say that domestic cases are the WORST to get involved with.
That said - could anyone look in their heart and say they did the right thing by turning away? Not me.
Whether the best friend got boned or the money was stolen - there is no excuse for someone to get physically violent or intimidate someone that is weaker. We tell our children to stand up against bullies - what that doesn't apply after grade school?
You did the right thing - someone was getting bullied and you alerted those trained to address it. GOOD FOR YOU. -
So wait...this guy is single now? Was he cute?
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Domino wrote: The cops always say that domestic cases are the WORST to get involved with.
Re-reading the original post, I think the lack of details is leading people to having two very different views of what actually transpired.
That said - could anyone look in their heart and say they did the right thing by turning away? Not me.
Whether the best friend got boned or the money was stolen - there is no excuse for someone to get physically violent or intimidate someone that is weaker. We tell our children to stand up against bullies - what that doesn't apply after grade school?
You did the right thing - someone was getting bullied and you alerted those trained to address it. GOOD FOR YOU.
I originally read as a boyfriend tossing his girlfriend's shit (clothes, furniture, etc.) onto the street and kicking her out of their apt.
Now a person can be kicked out of their place by an abusive asshole, which may be the case here. But a person can also be kicked out of their place for legit reasons, which was my point. We don't know what happened, so I just thought it unfair to automatically peg the Evictor as an asshole, without having all of the facts.
A person can rightfully be extremely angry without being violent or intimidating. That some people may INTERPRET another person's anger as being scary doesn't neccesarily correlate with whether the irate person is ACTUALLY scary.
That said, upon re-reading I suppose it is possible to read the OP and interpret it as angry, abusive boyfriend grabbed stuff out of girlfriend's hands or purse or person and threw them to the ground. So that would be abusive.
Not enough details I suppose. -
Yes, the boyfriend was verbally abusing girlfriend on the street. He took her stuff and threw it all over sidewalk. Some of it broken/shattered. He paced back and forth nearby continuing to verbally abuse her and passersby trying to help as she collected her things. I don't know where they live and don't know what she did or didn't do. I don't think any of that matters. I simply reached out to her as a gesture of concern for her safety. He looked and acted threatening. In the future I will call 911. Peace!
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I used to live in an apartment where the upstairs neighbors regularly had screaming matches. When they started throwing things I called 311 who passed me onto 911. The police rang my door buzzer to be buzzed in, they never told the neighbors who called them, and I was never given any follow up information - that's the way it works.
If you suspect domestic violence, call 911, the police will be the ones to make the decision as to whether abuse is actually occurring or whether the caller misinterpreted the situation. The DA is not going to bring a case if there is no evidence. You don't have to call 911 from your cell phone standing in the street where everyone can see you, you can and should find a discreet place, you need to protect yourself as well. If in doubt call 911 and let the police decide, that's their job, that's what they're trained for (among many other things). -
Anastasia Beaverhausen wrote: So wait...this guy is single now? Was he cute?
your my favorite poster for the month!!! -
talk to the girl. get a feel of the situation. call 911 or the local precinct/beat cops if you feel it is necessary (in Kensington I have the local beat cops's card with his # up on my fridge, never had to use it but nice to know it's there).
if you are concerned enough to post this you should have been concerned enough to call 911. -
If it was a girl screaming at and throwing her boyfriend's stuff out on the street (this has actually been the subject of many supposedly "humorous" tv commercials) everyone would assume he was a scumbag who screwed around with her best friend or something, and she was just venting righteous anger.
No one would think of calling the police.
Having said that, it doesn't hurt to call them and let them sort it out if you feel she was in danger. -
Mountebank wrote:
Probably because the vast majority of domestic violence is men hitting women, not the other way around.
No one would think of calling the police. -
jml wrote: [quote=Mountebank]
Probably because the vast majority of domestic violence is men hitting women, not the other way around.
No one would think of calling the police.
Exactly. Men end up having to stay with a friend (or a hotel); Women (sadly...) end up in need of medical care. -
unless he's a drummer
he can sleep in his car well into his 50s -
jml wrote:
That is extremely incorrect.
Probably because the vast majority of domestic violence is men hitting women, not the other way around. -
ParadeRest wrote: [quote=jml]
That is extremely incorrect.
Probably because the vast majority of domestic violence is men hitting women, not the other way around.
Parade is this bait ? The issue is everybody wants to help, nobody is willing to get shot or witness to the cops to find out the abused woman sides with the abuser and you get shot later. -
catwalkertexasranger wrote: [quote=ParadeRest][quote=jml]
That is extremely incorrect.
Probably because the vast majority of domestic violence is men hitting women, not the other way around.
Parade is this bait ? The issue is everybody wants to help, nobody is willing to get shot or witness to the cops to find out the abused woman sides with the abuser and you get shot later.
I don't really understand why you would think it was bait. I have enough experience to know that using the words "vast majority" is not at all accurate.
If you want to help...help. If you don't want to help because you fear the consequences...don't help. You can't kinda help.
BTW, anonymous 911 calls don't really help either. Cooperate with the 911 operator and if the police department tries to call you back, please answer. The perp isn't going to find out who called 911. Often the officers arrive on scene and need information from you that the 911 operator didn't get such as descriptions, direction of travel, if any weapons were used or displayed... -
ParadeRest wrote: [quote=jml]
That is extremely incorrect.
Probably because the vast majority of domestic violence is men hitting women, not the other way around.
Are you sure? I thought that was the case from what I've read, and when I googled "domestic violence statistics", the American Bar Association website had these statistics:
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According to the U.S. Department of Justice, between 1998 and 2002:
* Of the almost 3.5 million violent crimes committed against family members, 49% of these were crimes against spouses.
* 84% of spouse abuse victims were females, and 86% of victims of dating partner abuse at were female.
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Parade-
Are you using the definition of "domestic violence" that includes child abuse? And teenagers who hit their parents?
...that's different kinda misery there. -
The problem with DOJ numbers is that (just like robberies/burglaries) domestic violence is grossly under reported. Domestic violence is also used as a tool by some people to file bogus reports and have their partner arrested for an incident that didn't occur.
Check out this site...http://www.mediaradar.org/ -
Interesting. I'll check it out - thanks for the link.
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